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Oh **** off. Bearmick and Spartan literally spend their entire sorry lives beating this topic to death.

So don't respond to those threads nimrod...its a pretty easy solution. You see a thread that has been beaten to death, you then skip over it. neither of them are forcing you to read the thread nor respond to the thread. You get pissed that they are constantly bitching about Cutler, but you keep responding and participating in the threads. They aren't the ones at fault here.

(and by you, I am not directly saying just you but to everyone that responds and then bitches about mick and spartan)
 

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Oh **** off. Bearmick and Spartan literally spend their entire sorry lives beating this topic to death.

It's because his views align with theirs so them beating the same dead horse for 5 years is totally cool... Me busting their balls in 1 thread however is totally uncalled for and unnecessary lol. Rush should probably IP ban me for ruining what otherwise would of been another brilliant round of dead horse beating. :rolleyes:
 

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But can't we retain Cutler AND look for the next franchise guy? Those things aren't mutually exclusive. It's what NE did with Brady, the 9ers did with Kaep and the Seahawks did with Wilson. Which brings us back to my first post in this thread.

Brady was the only one with a starter in place.

Wilson was drafted to compete with Flynn for the starting job.

Smith signed a 1 year deal in 2011 and the a low ball 3 year deal in 2012. Eventhough he played his most efficient football in 2011 & 2012 prior to injury...there was clear signs that he was on his way out. So the indication was that Kaep would be taking over shortly.

If were to draft Cutlers replacement. It would be In the Bears best interest to start this year.


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Ok, your point has been made...now why don't you give the board a topic to discuss. I agree this subject is an endless merry-go-round, but it has genreated 300+ posts in this thread alone. So I would guess posters are at the very least not tired of this subject. If you are so sick of this topic, then give the masses a new topic to discuss and stop bitching about the same old discussion that happens here.

Brocs straw men are getting a bit old on this topic


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It's because his views align with theirs so them beating the same dead horse for 5 years is totally cool... Me busting their balls in 1 thread however is totally uncalled for and unnecessary lol. Rush should probably IP ban me for ruining what otherwise would of been another brilliant round of dead horse beating. :rolleyes:

But you don't bust their balls in just one thread...I'm not saying they are innocent in this whole thing, but you have bitched in multiple threads about them beating this dead horse. So how does that help anything, it obviously hasn't stopped them from posting their views on Cutler or stopped them from starting threads about Cutler. If it is a tired subject for you and for anyone else then simply skip over the thread. This isn't the only active thread on the board...I'm sure if you try hard enough you can find a thread that will peak your interest. So go ahead and give me some exaggerated response and end it with :rolleyes: and continue to contribute to the shit show you hate so much.
 

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How about this: **** all ya'll and **** this thread
 

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It's because his views align with theirs so them beating the same dead horse for 5 years is totally cool... Me busting their balls in 1 thread however is totally uncalled for and unnecessary lol. Rush should probably IP ban me for ruining what otherwise would of been another brilliant round of dead horse beating. :rolleyes:

I heard a Rush IP ban includes a courtesy lap dance from Fabio


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So don't respond to those threads nimrod...its a pretty easy solution. You see a thread that has been beaten to death, you then skip over it. neither of them are forcing you to read the thread nor respond to the thread. You get pissed that they are constantly bitching about Cutler, but you keep responding and participating in the threads. They aren't the ones at fault here.

(and by you, I am not directly saying just you but to everyone that responds and then bitches about mick and spartan)

This seems like a civil approach.
 

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Brocs straw men are getting a bit old on this topic.

Hey I'm ready to have a legit discussion whenever you can manage it. Hell, I'll even create a new thread so we can start fresh.
 

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Wilson was drafted to compete with Flynn for the starting job.
Flynn's contract makes it seem like Wilson won that job far earlier than they expected. Even so, what Seattle did (pay for a high priced QB in the same year they draft a guy they hope to develop) is exactly what the Bears seem to be doing.

Smith signed a 1 year deal in 2011 and the a low ball 3 year deal in 2012. Eventhough he played his most efficient football in 2011 & 2012 prior to injury...there was clear signs that he was on his way out. So the indication was that Kaep would be taking over shortly.

While that may all be true, they didn't draft Kaep with the trust he would be the next franchise guy. They had their starter in place to allow Kaep to develop as the back up or in case Kaep didn't end up being what they thought he was.

If were to draft Cutlers replacement. It would be In the Bears best interest to start this year.[
I disagree. It seems more young QBs are ruined by being thrown to the wolves than benefit from it. The guys that can handle it are generally in the group that goes in the top 10 of a draft.

It's always better to have more options. Having Cutler on the roster gives more options. You could argue that McCown does as well, but then what? What if McCown can't continue being the third best QB in the league and the rookie we draft does not pan out? Then we are in no man's land again. Retaining Cutler keeps us out of no man's land. And that, to me, is very valuable.

*edit - I think I misunderstood that last quoted portion. I read it the first time as "If we draft Cutlers replacement, it would be in his best interest to start this year." Meaning, if we draft a dude, that dude should start this year. Which, I don't think you meant anymore.
 

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Brady was the only one with a starter in place.

Wilson was drafted to compete with Flynn for the starting job.

Smith signed a 1 year deal in 2011 and the a low ball 3 year deal in 2012. Eventhough he played his most efficient football in 2011 & 2012 prior to injury...there was clear signs that he was on his way out. So the indication was that Kaep would be taking over shortly.

If were to draft Cutlers replacement. It would be In the Bears best interest to start this year.


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I get that Cutler is 30 years old and isn't going to play forever. But, to me, if you're going to throw a 7-year deal worth, potentially, well over $100 million, I have to believe that you're going all-in as an organization on that QB. Which means that just about the entire focus for the Bears next draft should be on the defensive side of the ball.

Whether or not you agree with the decision to keep Cutler, in this argument, is irrelevant, IMO. I don't know if you can afford to throw that much money at a QB and then draft the guy that's ultimately going to replace him in the same offseason.

I think you have to put all of your faith in Cutler, at least for this season. Spend every available penny you've got on that defense. Then if there are signs that Cutler isn't going to live up to that contract he just signed (please discount the previous years of Cutler's tenure in Chicago when processing that sentence), you go after that next young QB in the 2015 offseason.
 

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Flynn's contract makes it seem like Wilson won that job far earlier than they expected. Even so, what Seattle did (pay for a high priced QB in the same year they draft a guy they hope to develop) is exactly what the Bears seem to be doing.



While that may all be true, they didn't draft Kaep with the trust he would be the next franchise guy. They had their starter in place to allow Kaep to develop as the back up or in case Kaep didn't end up being what they thought he was.


I disagree. It seems more young QBs are ruined by being thrown to the wolves than benefit from it. The guys that can handle it are generally in the group that goes in the top 10 of a draft.

It's always better to have more options. Having Cutler on the roster gives more options. You could argue that McCown does as well, but then what? What if McCown can't continue being the third best QB in the league and the rookie we draft does not pan out? Then we are in no man's land again. Retaining Cutler keeps us out of no man's land. And that, to me, is very valuable.

*edit - I think I misunderstood that last quoted portion. I read it the first time as "If we draft Cutlers replacement, it would be in his best interest to start this year." Meaning, if we draft a dude, that dude should start this year. Which, I don't think you meant anymore.

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But, to me, if you're going to throw a 7-year deal worth, potentially, well over $100 million, I have to believe that you're going all-in as an organization on that QB.

Not really, with the way it's structured. It basically allows us to go all in after three years if we feel it's worth it at that point, without having to negotiate a whole new contract like we would have had to do if we had just signed him to a 3 year deal most thought was reasonable.

They way the contract is structured leads me to believe they are allowing themselves to search for Cutlers replacement immediately, and they are giving themselves three years to do it. If they can't land his replacement, they will retain Cutler on a year to year basis after that. I could certainly be wrong about the intentions of the Bears.
 

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I get that Cutler is 30 years old and isn't going to play forever. But, to me, if you're going to throw a 7-year deal worth, potentially, well over $100 million, I have to believe that you're going all-in as an organization on that QB. Which means that just about the entire focus for the Bears next draft should be on the defensive side of the ball.

Whether or not you agree with the decision to keep Cutler, in this argument, is irrelevant, IMO. I don't know if you can afford to throw that much money at a QB and then draft the guy that's ultimately going to replace him in the same offseason.

I think you have to put all of your faith in Cutler, at least for this season. Spend every available penny you've got on that defense. Then if there are signs that Cutler isn't going to live up to that contract he just signed (please discount the previous years of Cutler's tenure in Chicago when processing that sentence), you go after that next young QB in the 2015 offseason.

I agree that the Bears have put all their faith in Cutler this year and regardless if they draft a QB in this years draft, the only way that rookie sees the field in the regular season is either during a blow out or during Cutler's annual injury. The only thing I disagree is that a QB needs to be drafted relatively early this year, I understand why they wouldn't and that chances are they probably won't draft a QB this year...but the McCown insurance policy won't be there for much longer and if Trestman wants to start grooming a QB the earlier the better.
 

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