3 of the 4 remaining QBs

[Daa Bearrs]

Bearmick was a more enjoyable user before the Cutler extension. His trolling of nutty Cutler fanboys used to be quite amusing but now he just seems desperate and bitter.

Step up your game Mick, you used to be one of the more entertaining posters on this here board:wacko:

 

[Warrior Spirit]

That's actually one thing that three of the winning QB's didn't and don't usually do... Throw too many picks.

Kaep, Wilson and Brady all had unspectacular games. But none of them had a turnover [or turnoverS] that may have cost them the game.

Does anyone trust that Cutler could have a clean game consistently when it matters most?

If he can learn to play conservative and throw quick short passes and just hand the ball off when he isn't playing well, then maybe we've got a shot with Jay if the defense improves to an adequate enough level. I don't know if I trust Jay doing that though.

Good point. They all protect the ball and that is key. There was 1 stat I heard last night about Kaepernick, in 28 starts he only had the 1 game against Seattle in which he threw more than 1 int. and when you see guys like these 3 not having very good games you'll still notice they're not turning the ball over and when that point and time comes in the game when you need the big play, they can still do that.

 

[onebud34]

I agree...I think that Cutler can be that guy. No, this isn't based on any historical data, cause we all know it's not there. I trust Trestman to work his magic. Before this year McCown had 37 tds and 45 ints for his career. I see no reason that Cutler can't do something similar.

I think the key for Cutler to turn it around is realizing his limitations

 

[bearmick]

I agree...I think that Cutler can be that guy. No, this isn't based on any historical data, cause we all know it's not there. I trust Trestman to work his magic. Before this year McCown had 37 tds and 44 ints for his career. He now has 50 tds and 45 ints. I see no reason that Cutler can't do something similar.

But then why didn't he? Why did McCown improve enormously more than Cutler when it was Cutler who had all the starter reps in mini camp, training camp and practice?

 

[bearmick]

I agree that one of his points is that a QB can be successfully drafted at 14 or later. That is obvious. What you are missing is his advocation that the Bears do it at the 14th overall pick. It's the last line in his original post. If he had been advocating drafting one later, he would have said that. But he wants the Bears to draft one at 14.

No, that's not what I'm saying. See reply #96 to Broc.

 

[onebud34]

But then why didn't he? Why did McCown improve enormously more than Cutler when it was Cutler who had all the starter reps in mini camp, training camp and practice?

I'll answer...it's because McCown knows he doesn't have an elite arm

 

[Novoitus]

newton is grossly overrated

 

[gpphat]

I agree that one of his points is that a QB can be successfully drafted at 14 or later. That is obvious. What you are missing is his advocation that the Bears do it at the 14th overall pick. It's the last line in his original post. If he had been advocating drafting one later, he would have said that. But he wants the Bears to draft one at 14. My argument was not that drafting a QB with the 14th pick would be ignoring the defense. I was simply trying to get BearMick to actually clarify, for people like you, that his position was in fact advocating drafting one at 14; something I think is sufficiently spelled out in his original post. BearMick never responded, so I never made an argument on the subject.

My clarification, again, was solely in regard to that 14th pick. The same pick that bearmick advocated taking a QB at. You chimmed in about the other rounds. Let me break down this conversation in hypothetical terms, so we can really illustrate how off base you are (forgive me for how *** this sounds):

Bear Mick: What should we have dinner? I'm thinking about steak, gravy, and potatoes.

Bearin' Down: You want steak, gravy, and potatoes for dinner? Do you really think that this dinner has the nutritional support you need?

gpphat: There are other meals besides dinner.

Bearin Down: WTF?

So you have been here since August 2012 and I am guessing you were on the CBMB....and you need clarification whether mick would want to draft a QB with the 14th pick? It's obvious that he is in favor of drafting a QB with the 14th pick and also believes that the needs of the defense can be addressed through other means. Follow this illustration:

bearmick (has a history of enjoying steak gravy and potatoes for dinner): What should we have dinner? I'm thinking about steak, gravy, and potatoes.

Bearin Down: You want steak, gravy, and potatoes for dinner? Do you really think that this dinner has the nutritional support you need?

gpphat: You can receive the nutritional support through breakfast, lunch, snacks, and supplements...so having steak, gravy, and potatoes won't take away from the nutritional support.

Bearin Down: but mick was only talking about dinner!!

CCS:

 

[Bearin' Down]

No, that's not what I'm saying. See reply #96 to Broc.

Then you have an issue with the way you phrased your original post.

 

[94SupraTT]

I'm with you too....it doesn't have to be with the 14th pick, but I hope we don't wait past the 3rd to grab one.

The 4th round is where I hope they target someone. I'm not looking for a starter, we need a viable backup though. We've seen what happens when the likes of Caleb Hanie are called upon!

Who knows thought. If there is value in the 3rd at the QB position and some defensive prospects are dropping I'd be ok with trading back in the 3rd and grabbing a QB.

 

[bearmick]

I would never waste a good steak with gravy. Gravy is for a roast. Who comes up with these questions?

 

[Bearin' Down]

So you have been here since August 2012 and I am guessing you were on the CBMB....and you need clarification whether mick would want to draft a QB with the 14th pick? It's obvious that he is in favor of drafting a QB with the 14th pick and also believes that the needs of the defense can be addressed through other means. Follow this illustration:

bearmick (has a history of enjoying steak gravy and potatoes for dinner): What should we have dinner? I'm thinking about steak, gravy, and potatoes.

Bearin Down: You want steak, gravy, and potatoes for dinner? Do you really think that this dinner has the nutritional support you need?

gpphat: You can receive the nutritional support through breakfast, lunch, snacks, and supplements...so having steak, gravy, and potatoes won't take away from the nutritional support.

Bearin Down: but mick was only talking about dinner!!

CCS:

Whatever, I'll concede this, our conversation is incredibly stupid inside a thread that is even more stupid. If the original post was only meant to highlight that you can have success drafting a qb at the 14th overall pick or later, then I will give you a resounding: NO SHIT.As to the rest of this, we are bickering about semantics in the original post. I have no inclination to continue this dumb debate.

 

[gpphat]

The 4th round is where I hope they target someone. I'm not looking for a starter, we need a viable backup though. We've seen what happens when the likes of Caleb Hanie are called upon!

I would like to see them get the viable backup that will eventually be the starter. 3 years from now I would hope emery and trestman will have someone in place where they can feel comfortable moving on from Cutler if need be.

 

[onebud34]

I would never waste a good steak with gravy. Gravy is for a roast. Who comes up with these questions?

For a good steak all you should need is a knife and a fork

 

[Love Da Bears]

But then why didn't he? Why did McCown improve enormously more than Cutler when it was Cutler who had all the starter reps in mini camp, training camp and practice?

I don't know. Mick, I see exactly where you're coming from. But, me thinking optimistically makes for the Bears offseason to be more fun and excitable leading into the season. If all I do is think, man Cutler really fucking sucks, this season is going to be shitty, then there's no point in any of this.

But just so we have answer we can all agree with...i'm going to say his Resting Asshole Face. Of which, i'm also an owner.

 

[Bearin' Down]

I would never waste a good steak with gravy. Gravy is for a roast. Who comes up with these questions?

LOL, admittedly, it was a bit ridiculous.

 

[Love Da Bears]

For a good steak all you should need is a knife and a fork

I was at Ditka's for New Years last year and got a nice Peppercorn crusted filet and then I asked the waiter for some ketchup. She nearly shit herself, it was awesome.

 

[Packer Fan]

But then why didn't he? Why did McCown improve enormously more than Cutler when it was Cutler who had all the starter reps in mini camp, training camp and practice?

You should really stop dogging Cutler. He's a good quarterback, the leader of the Bears, and will be your future.

 

[bearmick]

Bearmick was a more enjoyable user before the Cutler extension.

Do you any statistical evidence to back this up or is it one of those fanboy "eye test" arguments?

 

[onebud34]

I agree...I think that Cutler can be that guy. No, this isn't based on any historical data, cause we all know it's not there. I trust Trestman to work his magic. Before this year McCown had 37 tds and 44 ints for his career. He now has 50 tds and 45 ints. I see no reason that Cutler can't do something similar.

The common theme for this was:

1. not enough game film on McCown

2. Vanilla D's

3. Jeffery, Marshall, Forte, Bennett on O