6/17/14 Bears Mini Camp Day 1: News, Notes, Tweets

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If I could have 1 thing this offseason. If I could only be guaranteed 1 thing.

I would want Brock Vereen to take the FS job and never look back. For him to provide a noticable upgrade over Chris Conte would be such a coup for the Bears. I would take Vereen and Mundy just being competent in 2014 as a MASSIVE victory.
 

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If I could have 1 thing this offseason. If I could only be guaranteed 1 thing.

I would want Brock Vereen to take the FS job and never look back. For him to provide a noticable upgrade over Chris Conte would be such a coup for the Bears. I would take Vereen and Mundy just being competent in 2014 as a MASSIVE victory.


Agreed - but I expect Conte to be in the mix during TC. For me - I just want the safety corps to be an average unit that perhaps can be made to look better than average with a dominant pass rush and run D. We'll see.
 

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Agreed - but I expect Conte to be in the mix during TC. For me - I just want the safety corps to be an average unit that perhaps can be made to look better than average with a dominant pass rush and run D. We'll see.

We had that with Conte and Wright
 

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If I could have 1 thing this offseason. If I could only be guaranteed 1 thing.

I would want Brock Vereen to take the FS job and never look back. For him to provide a noticable upgrade over Chris Conte would be such a coup for the Bears. I would take Vereen and Mundy just being competent in 2014 as a MASSIVE victory.

I would be all for that or Bostic and/or Shea having a breakout year and why they were drafted so highly.
 

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We had that with Conte and Wright

The problem is that there is now a huge air of vulnerability around those two. Offensive minds know they can be exploited because they are below average players propped up by talent around them. We need average players that won't collapse when asked to do their job.
 

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If I could have 1 thing this offseason. If I could only be guaranteed 1 thing.

I would want Brock Vereen to take the FS job and never look back. For him to provide a noticable upgrade over Chris Conte would be such a coup for the Bears. I would take Vereen and Mundy just being competent in 2014 as a MASSIVE victory.

If I could have 2 things this off season, one would be what WindyCity noted above, the other would be a solid starting caliber performance out of Shea at the start of the season.
 

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If I could have 1 thing this offseason. If I could only be guaranteed 1 thing.

I would want Brock Vereen to take the FS job and never look back. For him to provide a noticable upgrade over Chris Conte would be such a coup for the Bears. I would take Vereen and Mundy just being competent in 2014 as a MASSIVE victory.

It's important to recall that Chris Conte was once Brock Vereen, except two inches taller and drafted in the third round. Conte ran the 40 in 4.53 at the NFL Combine, Vereen 4.47 that's sixth one hundrenths of a second difference between the two. Vereen is a strong bench press guy 25 to 18 reps. Conte has a better vertical 35.5 to 34.0 inches, Conte has a better broad jump 127.0 to 117.0, Vereen had a better 3-cone drill, 6.90 to 7.01 two one hundrenths of a second and Vereen had a better shuttle 4.09 to 4.17 8 one hundrenths of a second different.

Vereen played seven games at safety as a junior after being a backup CB, while Conte transitioned to starting free safety as a senior after spending three years as a starting CB. So Conte started all four years at Cal, three as a CB one as a safety, earned all All-Pac-10 honors as a senior and was drafted in the third round. Conte was a tall athletic rangy safety who used to play cornerback who had his best season ever as a safety.

Vereen was a former cornerback who transitioned to safety after starting two and a half years at CB. He played 20 games at safety some of his junior and all of his senior year. Seven more games than Conte did at safety.

So essentially what we are hoping from Brock Vereen is the same thing we were hoping from Conte three years ago. They're nearly identical/the exact same type of prospect only Conte is two inches taller which makes him a slightly more desirable prospect.

To hope or expect Vereen is going to outperform Conte is the same as what Conte was three years ago. The only difference is you've seen Conte play at the NFL level and all the NFL hype you've read about Vereen has given this board a giant off-season NFL draft savior boner, the same boner this board had after Conte was drafted.

They are the exact same player who have charted nearly identical career paths with near identical athletic qualities. Prudent patience is in order with Brock Vereen as our lowering of current expectations.

Translation you all need to CTFD about Brock Vereen.
 

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If I could have 2 things this off season, one would be what WindyCity noted above, the other would be a solid starting caliber performance out of Shea at the start of the season.

I know what your doing here and I approve wholeheartedly :)

If i could have 3 things this off season, the first two would be what was already said, and the third thing, the third thing would be to see Peanut Punch 2.0 in Fuller so the legacy is assured when the master retires.
 

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Yeah and Ed Reed is 5'11 ran a 4.57 at the combine, slower than both Vereen and Conte. And yet, no one in their right mind would argue that Reed and Conte were even remotely close in their abilities if you're comparing them both at their prime. Football is a lot more than stopwatches, so your premise that because they measure similarly that they'll play similarly is, putting it mildly, unrealistic.

It's important to recall that Chris Conte was once Brock Vereen, except two inches taller and drafted in the third round. Conte ran the 40 in 4.53 at the NFL Combine, Vereen 4.47 that's sixth one hundrenths of a second difference between the two. Vereen is a strong bench press guy 25 to 18 reps. Conte has a better vertical 35.5 to 34.0 inches, Conte has a better broad jump 127.0 to 117.0, Vereen had a better 3-cone drill, 6.90 to 7.01 two one hundrenths of a second and Vereen had a better shuttle 4.09 to 4.17 8 one hundrenths of a second different.

Vereen played seven games at safety as a junior after being a backup CB, while Conte transitioned to starting free safety as a senior after spending three years as a starting CB. So Conte started all four years at Cal, three as a CB one as a safety, earned all All-Pac-10 honors as a senior and was drafted in the third round. Conte was a tall athletic rangy safety who used to play cornerback who had his best season ever as a safety.

Vereen was a former cornerback who transitioned to safety after starting two and a half years at CB. He played 20 games at safety some of his junior and all of his senior year. Seven more games than Conte did at safety.

So essentially what we are hoping from Brock Vereen is the same thing we were hoping from Conte three years ago. They're nearly identical/the exact same type of prospect only Conte is two inches taller which makes him a slightly more desirable prospect.

To hope or expect Vereen is going to outperform Conte is the same as what Conte was three years ago. The only difference is you've seen Conte play at the NFL level and all the NFL hype you've read about Vereen has given this board a giant off-season NFL draft savior boner, the same boner this board had after Conte was drafted.

They are the exact same player who have charted nearly identical career paths with near identical athletic qualities. Prudent patience is in order with Brock Vereen as our lowering of current expectations.

Translation you all need to CTFD about Brock Vereen.
 

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It's important to recall that Chris Conte was once Brock Vereen, except two inches taller and drafted in the third round. Conte ran the 40 in 4.53 at the NFL Combine, Vereen 4.47 that's sixth one hundrenths of a second difference between the two. Vereen is a strong bench press guy 25 to 18 reps. Conte has a better vertical 35.5 to 34.0 inches, Conte has a better broad jump 127.0 to 117.0, Vereen had a better 3-cone drill, 6.90 to 7.01 two one hundrenths of a second and Vereen had a better shuttle 4.09 to 4.17 8 one hundrenths of a second different.

Vereen played seven games at safety as a junior after being a backup CB, while Conte transitioned to starting free safety as a senior after spending three years as a starting CB. So Conte started all four years at Cal, three as a CB one as a safety, earned all All-Pac-10 honors as a senior and was drafted in the third round. Conte was a tall athletic rangy safety who used to play cornerback who had his best season ever as a safety.

Vereen was a former cornerback who transitioned to safety after starting two and a half years at CB. He played 20 games at safety some of his junior and all of his senior year. Seven more games than Conte did at safety.

So essentially what we are hoping from Brock Vereen is the same thing we were hoping from Conte three years ago. They're nearly identical/the exact same type of prospect only Conte is two inches taller which makes him a slightly more desirable prospect.

To hope or expect Vereen is going to outperform Conte is the same as what Conte was three years ago. The only difference is you've seen Conte play at the NFL level and all the NFL hype you've read about Vereen has given this board a giant off-season NFL draft savior boner, the same boner this board had after Conte was drafted.

They are the exact same player who have charted nearly identical career paths with near identical athletic qualities. Prudent patience is in order with Brock Vereen as our lowering of current expectations.

Translation you all need to CTFD about Brock Vereen.

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It's important to recall that Chris Conte was once Brock Vereen, except two inches taller and drafted in the third round. Conte ran the 40 in 4.53 at the NFL Combine, Vereen 4.47 that's sixth one hundrenths of a second difference between the two. Vereen is a strong bench press guy 25 to 18 reps. Conte has a better vertical 35.5 to 34.0 inches, Conte has a better broad jump 127.0 to 117.0, Vereen had a better 3-cone drill, 6.90 to 7.01 two one hundrenths of a second and Vereen had a better shuttle 4.09 to 4.17 8 one hundrenths of a second different.

Vereen played seven games at safety as a junior after being a backup CB, while Conte transitioned to starting free safety as a senior after spending three years as a starting CB. So Conte started all four years at Cal, three as a CB one as a safety, earned all All-Pac-10 honors as a senior and was drafted in the third round. Conte was a tall athletic rangy safety who used to play cornerback who had his best season ever as a safety.

Vereen was a former cornerback who transitioned to safety after starting two and a half years at CB. He played 20 games at safety some of his junior and all of his senior year. Seven more games than Conte did at safety.

So essentially what we are hoping from Brock Vereen is the same thing we were hoping from Conte three years ago. They're nearly identical/the exact same type of prospect only Conte is two inches taller which makes him a slightly more desirable prospect.

To hope or expect Vereen is going to outperform Conte is the same as what Conte was three years ago. The only difference is you've seen Conte play at the NFL level and all the NFL hype you've read about Vereen has given this board a giant off-season NFL draft savior boner, the same boner this board had after Conte was drafted.

They are the exact same player who have charted nearly identical career paths with near identical athletic qualities. Prudent patience is in order with Brock Vereen as our lowering of current expectations.

Translation you all need to CTFD about Brock Vereen.

Why would anyone pay attention to your player evaluations? You were the one who said Webb was going to be a good Tackle and win the starting job. Your evaluations have proven to be a joke.


Keep looking for attention Biff.


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Yeah and Ed Reed is 5'11 ran a 4.57 at the combine, slower than both Vereen and Conte. And yet, no one in their right mind would argue that Reed and Conte were even remotely close in their abilities if you're comparing them both at their prime. Football is a lot more than stopwatches, so your premise that because they measure similarly that they'll play similarly is, putting it mildly, unrealistic.

Why do you hope or think that Brock Vereen will be better than Conte?
 

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Why would anyone pay attention to your player evaluations? You were the one who said Webb was going to be a good Tackle and win the starting job. Your evaluations have proven to be a joke.


Keep looking for attention Biff.


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Dear fucktard, I am not making a player evaluation on either Conte or Vereen. I am merely comparing verifiable facts of the two players i.e. height, weight, speed, NFL combine athletic qualities and college career paths.

None of the information I provided was an "evaluation" it was simply a comparison on relevant factual data. Thank you and move along back to your regularly scheduled circle jerk with the rest of the fucktards.
 

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Yeah and Ed Reed is 5'11 ran a 4.57 at the combine, slower than both Vereen and Conte. And yet, no one in their right mind would argue that Reed and Conte were even remotely close in their abilities if you're comparing them both at their prime. Football is a lot more than stopwatches, so your premise that because they measure similarly that they'll play similarly is, putting it mildly, unrealistic.


Ed Reed was a 1st round pick. Not everybody was exctited about him though. http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2002-04-21/sports/0204210199_1_ed-reed-ravens-jamal-lewis :lol:
 

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It's important to recall that Chris Conte was once Brock Vereen, except two inches taller and drafted in the third round. Conte ran the 40 in 4.53 at the NFL Combine, Vereen 4.47 that's sixth one hundrenths of a second difference between the two. Vereen is a strong bench press guy 25 to 18 reps. Conte has a better vertical 35.5 to 34.0 inches, Conte has a better broad jump 127.0 to 117.0, Vereen had a better 3-cone drill, 6.90 to 7.01 two one hundrenths of a second and Vereen had a better shuttle 4.09 to 4.17 8 one hundrenths of a second different.

Vereen played seven games at safety as a junior after being a backup CB, while Conte transitioned to starting free safety as a senior after spending three years as a starting CB. So Conte started all four years at Cal, three as a CB one as a safety, earned all All-Pac-10 honors as a senior and was drafted in the third round. Conte was a tall athletic rangy safety who used to play cornerback who had his best season ever as a safety.

Vereen was a former cornerback who transitioned to safety after starting two and a half years at CB. He played 20 games at safety some of his junior and all of his senior year. Seven more games than Conte did at safety.

So essentially what we are hoping from Brock Vereen is the same thing we were hoping from Conte three years ago. They're nearly identical/the exact same type of prospect only Conte is two inches taller which makes him a slightly more desirable prospect.

To hope or expect Vereen is going to outperform Conte is the same as what Conte was three years ago. The only difference is you've seen Conte play at the NFL level and all the NFL hype you've read about Vereen has given this board a giant off-season NFL draft savior boner, the same boner this board had after Conte was drafted.

They are the exact same player who have charted nearly identical career paths with near identical athletic qualities. Prudent patience is in order with Brock Vereen as our lowering of current expectations.

Translation you all need to CTFD about Brock Vereen.

Makes sense to me. Emery has been awful drafting defense so far and I'm not going to expect that to change until I see it.
 

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