[A] "Keeping Things Simple"

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You’ve probably heard this phrase uttered a million times in the last week or so when people are talking about the Hawks and their current 8 game losing skid. Hell, I’ve heard current players talk about this “We need to keep things simple”. Yet, if you have been watching any of the games on this current losing streak, you will realize that the Hawks are not doing anything that is considered “simple”.



In case you are not aware (which from the presence of new fans over the last 4-5 years) the phrase “Keeping it simple” in hockey means the same thing in pretty much any other scenario it is used in. Make good outlet passes, gain entry to the zone, if you are pressured with no options get the puck deep etc. The Hawks are not doing the simple but instead are essentially making mistakes that are basic no-no’s in hockey. Last game against Phoenix for example I watched Andrew Shaw try and bank the puck off the boards so he could clear it out of the Hawks zone. Instead of just firing it out down the boards, he put the puck on an angle were it popped right into the middle of the Hawks zone. I’ve seen Huet play better angles then this. Luckily we didn’t get scored on (there was a shot though, and a scoring chance) but that was such a simple play it shouldn’t of gotten to the point of a scoring opportunity. It’s the little things like that type of play that will build up and cause these losses because eventually teams take advantage of those chances.



The simple things… like knowing who your man is in the defensive zone and STICKING with him. I’ve heard plenty of people complain about our goaltending and while it’s not the greatest tandem in the league, they are not the worst either. The problem is they get left out to dry way too many times because the shooters are getting off uncontested quality shots. I don’t care who your goaltender is; if they are seeing 10-15 (some nights more) QUALITY shots a night, eventually they are going to slip through the cracks. Lessing the gap (the distance between the defenseman and the shooter) is one way to shore up these quality shots against. Another simple idea is for our forwards to play as they are SUPPOSED to in the zone i.e. their position. Take for instance the first Phoenix goal against where the shot went off of Lepisto. That play should never of happened had the Hawks kept it simple. Stalberg turns the puck over at his own blue line instead of going off the boards or batting it out. Next, where is Jamal Mayers? Oh wait, he’s at center ice because he blew the zone WAY too early as a center (typically you are the last forward out of your zone). This results in all the forwards being out of their defensive position and Lepisto having to cover two separate Coyotes. If the Hawks had kept it simple and gotten the puck out AND played their positions correctly (the center) there would not have been a goal scored.



I could point these little flaws out all day (I choose not to because it would become redundant and boring… I applaud you if you are still even with me at this point), fact of the matter is if the players and whomever are going to keep bringing up the phrase “we need to keep it simple” then they might as well try for once and keep it simple on the ice.



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its true trev but at the same time i have been seeing the hawks try to resort to the simple things throughout games and periods and they havent even been able to do that well.



honestly this team isnt doing a thing right no matter what they try. But I agree...stick with the simple stuff and dont desert it when it goes bad also (which the hawks have done once they **** up a simple play).



ps actually the tandom of goalies are the worst in the league. stats and play prove it.



I like ya Trev but personally im tired of the "quality shots" excuse to try and make our goalkeeping look as if its not one of the many problems. All teams give up quality shots. Hawks maybe give up a few more a game than some other teams but its not as if they are giving up 10 a game while other teams are giving up 2. Ive watched a lot of other teams this season as i always do (not bragging about that i wish i didnt watch so many games but i have a boring dull life). I can tell you who the team in this league is thats giving up the most quality shots...its not the Hawks. Its the LA Kings. Behind them its the Leafs or Canes. Guarantee it. From the Duck games I have seen they give up loads of quality shots also. Hell even the Devils this year have let their now garbage goalie tandom face a shit load of quality shots. Rangers seem to allow a crap load also. I don't need to go on as there are a lot of other teams that fall into this boat from what I have seen. There is something these teams do have in common...not the greatest team defense so I agree there. Also something else some of these teams have in common with the Hawks..average to below average goalkeeping (Rangers and Kings excluded and im not trying to compare our goalies to 2 of the best in the league thats not fair).



Not saying the hawks aren't allowing a lot of quality shots and that it isn't a problem..add it on to the many problem because it belongs there. Its just being over used as something that now sounds like the Hawks are alone in the league when it comes to giving up quality shots...just not the case, not even close.



NHL season fact...Teams goalies HAVE to be able to win games on their own though out a long season. Craw and Emery have maybe won a very small handfull but they haven't won enough...def not as many as other goalies in this league. Sorry for putting pressure that may seem unfair on a young goalie and an older back up but its whats expected from them at this level.



I don't care what mistakes they focus on first. But right now it feels like they have to focus on just one and correct it then hope other problems correct themselves in response because NOTHING is going right. Pick the problem you want the team to focus on first and go from there. This seems to be the face of the debates lately. Everyone is picking one of the many problems and arguing their case for it to be the one they want focused on most and corrected in hoping the other problems fix themselves in response. That to me speaks volumes about just how messy this team is right now. I have never seen anything like it before. Never seen a team with so many current problems..esp a team with what we perceive as having one of the best core groups in the league.
 

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ohh by the way sticking with the "simplicity" plan



Hate seeing the blueliners continually looking for the stretch pass out of our own zone only to have it intercepted at the redline when they have a clear lane to be skating the puck out thus avoiding the turn over which more than often is causing shots on our goalies..and yes Trev quality ones so I hear you there.



Seems like Hawks can't execute the stretch pass anymore. Probably because its become one of the Hawks most predictable plays as it was last year also. I point my finger at both the system coached and also players instincts on that. These guys are given enough freedom on the ice to use their instincts. Too often those instincts are failing and poor decisions are being made. Not fair to blame it all on the system.
 

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Good article.



Keeping it simple is NOT playing low box defense.... keeping it simple is not playing the SAME STYLE on the PK.



Keeping it simple is not playing O'Donnell over Lepisto/Scott.



Keeping it simple isn't dressing Brian Bickell over John Scott for 5 minutes per game.



As of now I've never disliked a coaching strategy more than John Tortorella.... well Q'Stache.... you have now taken over.
 

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Considering Trev has played college hockey in a great program, I'll take his opinion over a fanboy any day.
 

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its true trev but at the same time i have been seeing the hawks try to resort to the simple things throughout games and periods and they havent even been able to do that well.



honestly this team isnt doing a thing right no matter what they try. But I agree...stick with the simple stuff and dont desert it when it goes bad also (which the hawks have done once they **** up a simple play).



ps actually the tandom of goalies are the worst in the league. stats and play prove it.



I like ya Trev but personally im tired of the "quality shots" excuse to try and make our goalkeeping look as if its not one of the many problems. All teams give up quality shots. Hawks maybe give up a few more a game than some other teams but its not as if they are giving up 10 a game while other teams are giving up 2. Ive watched a lot of other teams this season as i always do (not bragging about that i wish i didnt watch so many games but i have a boring dull life). I can tell you who the team in this league is thats giving up the most quality shots...its not the Hawks. Its the LA Kings. Behind them its the Leafs or Canes. Guarantee it. From the Duck games I have seen they give up loads of quality shots also. Hell even the Devils this year have let their now garbage goalie tandom face a shit load of quality shots. Rangers seem to allow a crap load also. I don't need to go on as there are a lot of other teams that fall into this boat from what I have seen. There is something these teams do have in common...not the greatest team defense so I agree there. Also something else some of these teams have in common with the Hawks..average to below average goalkeeping (Rangers and Kings excluded and im not trying to compare our goalies to 2 of the best in the league thats not fair).



Not saying the hawks aren't allowing a lot of quality shots and that it isn't a problem..add it on to the many problem because it belongs there. Its just being over used as something that now sounds like the Hawks are alone in the league when it comes to giving up quality shots...just not the case, not even close.



NHL season fact...Teams goalies HAVE to be able to win games on their own though out a long season. Craw and Emery have maybe won a very small handfull but they haven't won enough...def not as many as other goalies in this league. Sorry for putting pressure that may seem unfair on a young goalie and an older back up but its whats expected from them at this level.



I don't care what mistakes they focus on first. But right now it feels like they have to focus on just one and correct it then hope other problems correct themselves in response because NOTHING is going right. Pick the problem you want the team to focus on first and go from there. This seems to be the face of the debates lately. Everyone is picking one of the many problems and arguing their case for it to be the one they want focused on most and corrected in hoping the other problems fix themselves in response. That to me speaks volumes about just how messy this team is right now. I have never seen anything like it before. Never seen a team with so many current problems..esp a team with what we perceive as having one of the best core groups in the league.



I have been preachy with the quality shots as of late, and I do realize all teams give them up. Lately though, the Hawks have been giving up more than before the skid and I tie the fact that they have zero gap control and are way too deep when the oppositions forwards come in. All I'm saying is for better positioning in the defensive zone. That's what it comes down to. If Crawford/Emery are still giving up soft goals, then I will say there is a problem on our goaltending, but I don't think our goaltending is our weak point quite yet. It hasn't been great, but not our MAIN issue.



I do agree with what you have said about goalies needing to take over, but I'd like to see the rest of the team show up as well.



I think the main thing the Hawks need to focus on is their 5 on 5 zone play. They are brutal in their own zone and out of anything, that needs to be their main focus IMO. If you can't play defense, you are not going to win many games.
 

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ohh by the way sticking with the "simplicity" plan



Hate seeing the blueliners continually looking for the stretch pass out of our own zone only to have it intercepted at the redline when they have a clear lane to be skating the puck out thus avoiding the turn over which more than often is causing shots on our goalies..and yes Trev quality ones so I hear you there.



Seems like Hawks can't execute the stretch pass anymore. Probably because its become one of the Hawks most predictable plays as it was last year also. I point my finger at both the system coached and also players instincts on that. These guys are given enough freedom on the ice to use their instincts. Too often those instincts are failing and poor decisions are being made. Not fair to blame it all on the system.

That is another thing they do that irrates the hell out of me. I call it the "hard wrap", but stretch pass is the other term. It doesn't work at all, and I think the reason the Hawks D still do it is because guys like O'Donnell and Montador are not puck moving Dmen like they once were (O'Donnell might have been during the old testament). Todays NHL, you need Dmen who can skate with the puck. It doesn't have to be to the other teams zone, but at least get it moving out of your zone.



Considering Trev has played college hockey in a great program, I'll take his opinion over a fanboy any day.



I appreciate the kind words. I like to think I have a somewhat decent opinion.
 

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I agree fully with Canadian Dream, stats don't lie. Craw, in SV% stands at 40th out of 43; Emry, 37th out of 43. On GAA, Craw is 37 th out of 43 and Emry is 33rd out of 43. Those are not numbers to take you to the cup. Hell if it hadn't been for the good run during the middle of the season there is agood chance we wouldn't even make to the playoffs! Take any goalie from the middle of the pack and put them between the pipes in Chicago and magic could happen...as it is all that is going to happen is shit!
 

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I agree fully with Canadian Dream, stats don't lie. Craw, in SV% stands at 40th out of 43; Emry, 37th out of 43. On GAA, Craw is 37 th out of 43 and Emry is 33rd out of 43. Those are not numbers to take you to the cup. Hell if it hadn't been for the good run during the middle of the season there is agood chance we wouldn't even make to the playoffs! Take any goalie from the middle of the pack and put them between the pipes in Chicago and magic could happen...as it is all that is going to happen is shit!



I don't know who the **** you are, but you could put Ken fucking Dryden in net for us right now, and we would be losing games.
 

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I appreciate the kind words. I like to think I have a somewhat decent opinion.

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I have been preachy with the quality shots as of late, and I do realize all teams give them up. Lately though, the Hawks have been giving up more than before the skid and I tie the fact that they have zero gap control and are way too deep when the oppositions forwards come in. All I'm saying is for better positioning in the defensive zone. That's what it comes down to. If Crawford/Emery are still giving up soft goals, then I will say there is a problem on our goaltending, but I don't think our goaltending is our weak point quite yet. It hasn't been great, but not our MAIN issue.



I do agree with what you have said about goalies needing to take over, but I'd like to see the rest of the team show up as well.



I think the main thing the Hawks need to focus on is their 5 on 5 zone play. They are brutal in their own zone and out of anything, that needs to be their main focus IMO. If you can't play defense, you are not going to win many games.

What is equally as damaging is that the D has been shuffled so much that an obvious left side d-man like Keith has been placed on the right side, and he doesn't know when to hand over coverage of the puck carrier to his partner. We saw this several times recently when the attacking forwards would send someone past the goal line and the F2 and F3 would converge on the crease to await the tip in opportunity. All while the out of position d-man stood in the crease but didn't know what to do to cover the attacking forwards. Granted the center or a Hawks winger should have helped but to stand there and watch the play rather than cover a guy or two is not only dangerous, it is criminally negligent.
 

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Agreed. Simply put, "Keeping it Simple" is hockey 101--the same things many of these guys learned playing Timbits-level hockey.



Really, as cliche as it is, I think the players and Q are trying to play a type of skill game that may have worked for the SC team, but not for this group. We can blame Bowman the Younger for not acquiring the proper personnel, But some blame has to be placed on the players for not playing smater hockey, and on Q for not adapting his sytle to the players he's dealt. Quite simply, they're trying to win on talent alone, and the team doesn't have the talent to win on talent alone.



If Q is going to get the axe, I'm not sure if Haviland is the right answer--he may be too close to the players. We need a distant coach--like Q was when he benched Kane to great effect. We need a guy like Ditka or R. Lee Ermey as the head coach--someone the players won't like.
 

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Get a goalie coach in there that knows something about motivating players who are down on themselves; like I said there's not a lot of goalie options that fit the long term plans of the management here. Do we really need more of Brendan Morrison's play level?
 

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Not to get personal, Rex, but your foul mouthed input really puts off anybody who has an outside interest in this blog. Don't know how many years you have in as an NHL scrapper but I've found most who talk the talk have real trouble walking the walk.Computer screens are really easy to hide behind. Got it?
 

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Not to get personal, Rex, but your foul mouthed input really puts off anybody who has an outside interest in this blog. Don't know how many years you have in as an NHL scrapper but I've found most who talk the talk have real trouble walking the walk.Computer screens are really easy to hide behind. Got it?



No, I have no idea what you are trying to say. If your upset that I called Supra a name, get over it. You're free to leave at any time.
 

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Not to get personal, Rex, but your foul mouthed input really puts off anybody who has an outside interest in this blog. Don't know how many years you have in as an NHL scrapper but I've found most who talk the talk have real trouble walking the walk.Computer screens are really easy to hide behind. Got it?



Me and Rex where goofing off Mach. This board has a lot of that, I didn't take him serious just as he didn't take mine serious. We're just one big dysfunctional family over here.



welcome to the board



Also Rex play nice, I have superpowers you know
 
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