Anthony Rizzo brutally honest about Cubs future

[zack54attack]

Damn..

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1294017713883447296

 

[anotheridiot]

really something a leader puts out there when they are 3-13, not 13-3

 

[Discus fish salesman]

really something a leader puts out there when they are 3-13, not 13-3

You're the worst

 

[CSF77]

Needed to be said. Theo is going to have to make some tough choices going forward. What Rizzo said made sense. He is getting older and it is less likely that Theo will give him a retirement deal. It is more likely that Baez gets one. Just for the simple fact that Rizzo is easier to replace than Baez.

Most likely the DH is not in play and they could use 1B as a pivot for Caritini and Contreras to get more PA'S over the year at a cheaper cost.

It is just a reality that could play out. I see them hovering 200M per year going forward. They are going to have to find relief where they can.

 

[Diehardfan]

Rizzo is right. This very well could be their last stand. The salaries have gotten so outrageous that teams can't afford to keep more than a handful of these high priced guys. Because of that, it will be very hard to rebuild on the fly unless a team has a great farm so they can mix in some affordable young players. The last time I checked I think the Cub's farm system was ranked like 22 or so. Time to trade of some high priced talent to rebuild the system....in other words, blow it up. Sucks that it goes so fast.

 

[JimJohnson]

Rizzo is right. This very well could be their last stand. The salaries have gotten so outrageous that teams can't afford to keep more than a handful of these high priced guys. Because of that, it will be very hard to rebuild on the fly unless a team has a great farm so they can mix in some affordable young players. The last time I checked I think the Cub's farm system was ranked like 22 or so. Time to trade of some high priced talent to rebuild the system....in other words, blow it up. Sucks that it goes so fast.

It didn't really go by super fast. Cubs had plenty of chances. Theo made some bad trades that just didn't materialize and also cost the Cubs a bit of the future.

 

[anotheridiot]

Needed to be said. Theo is going to have to make some tough choices going forward. What Rizzo said made sense. He is getting older and it is less likely that Theo will give him a retirement deal. It is more likely that Baez gets one. Just for the simple fact that Rizzo is easier to replace than Baez.

Most likely the DH is not in play and they could use 1B as a pivot for Caritini and Contreras to get more PA'S over the year at a cheaper cost.

It is just a reality that could play out. I see them hovering 200M per year going forward. They are going to have to find relief where they can.

Theo signed Rizzo to a big discount deal, 7/40. Not likely he gives them a pass again. Next year is a 16.5 option year.

Rizzo gets a 200 million dollar deal and he is going to build a hospital somewhere. With his back issues, no way he sniffs the 300 that are going out there unless some central team with space wants to break up the cubs.

I think Rizzo giving up the arbitration dollars is having him think of how much more good he could have done if he did not sign this generational wealth deal.

 

[Diehardfan]

It didn't really go by super fast. Cubs had plenty of chances. Theo made some bad trades that just didn't materialize and also cost the Cubs a bit of the future.

I'm guessing you are on the underside of 50. There will come a point in your life when you suddenly realize that there are fewer days ahead than there are behind. It's at that point when you notice how fast time passes. Pretty sure that time hasn't come for you yet, but it will.

 

[JimJohnson]

I'm guessing you are on the underside of 50. There will come a point in your life when you suddenly realize that there are fewer days ahead than there are behind. It's at that point when you notice how fast time passes. Pretty sure that time hasn't come for you yet, but it will.

I am under 50 but I still know what you mean. That's sort of another conversation though. My point was simply the Cubs were in it for several seasons, even the year before they won the WS. Cubs had many, many chances. Theo made some bad trades (but I get it, this seems to be a sensitive topic and not everyone is going to agree with me).

 

[anotheridiot]

You're the worst

How many games have they won since he said this?

Bueller???? Bueller?????

 

[Icculus]

I guess correlation equals causation.

 

[85Bears]

The last time I checked I think the Cub's farm system was ranked like 22 or so. Time to trade of some high priced talent to rebuild the system....in other words, blow it up. Sucks that it goes so fast.

Being a long time fan (I'm 50), 2016 was enough for me. I will die a happy Cubs fan no matter what.

So I sadly agree. Blow it up after this year.

 

[knoxville7]

I’m 36, but still yearn for the early years when guys stayed with teams longer. itd be great to see Rizzo stay a cub, but the price has to be right. If he wants to cash in and get as much money as he can, it’s his right to do so. If he wants to stay a cub, it’ll have to be less than what other teams will give him. and if he chooses the money, I can’t think of a better athlete to get paid...he will end up donating even more money than he has to this point I’m sure

 

[anotheridiot]

I’m 36, but still yearn for the early years when guys stayed with teams longer. itd be great to see Rizzo stay a cub, but the price has to be right. If he wants to cash in and get as much money as he can, it’s his right to do so. If he wants to stay a cub, it’ll have to be less than what other teams will give him. and if he chooses the money, I can’t think of a better athlete to get paid...he will end up donating even more money than he has to this point I’m sure

But this is what most current cub fans cannot accept. When they started this build, my question was, how long are you going to be satisfied with one group. There is always the cry to get Nick, get Harper. I had a hard time buying in to Theo. He started with developing position players, buying pitching. Fine, we cannot develop a pitching staff, I will take it. Then they go out and get Heyward and we cant afford any more pitching let alone keeping all our guys.

So now, we lose Zobrist, but Nico has been flying thru the system, so that is the plan. We have backup for Zobrist, in Happ and Bote, but then Happ gets center, no more bouncing around and we have weaker defense up the middle with Happ in center every day. Now we have Howard down there to apparently maneuver this lineup for when either Bryant or Baez cant reach a deal. Are we going to go that route or find somebody elses 300 million dollar guy to pay instead.

Its commitment.