Anyone worried about the Defense?

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Obviously we had 5 INTs and 2 went back for scores, but did anyone notice how easily Dallas marched down the field consecutively? Granted we managed turnovers almost every time they got close, but giving up so much yardage isn't good at all.

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The way Lovie Smith approaches defense means there will be yardage given up. Basically, it's a bend-but-don't-break approach. If you've got good enough players and things are clicking, you'll get what you had last night.

They don't really care about yards. They care about the following:

tackling well
turnovers
limiting opponents scoring

If they get those three they'll be satisfied giving a lot of yards.
 

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Obviously we had 5 INTs and 2 went back for scores, but did anyone notice how easily Dallas marched down the field consecutively? Granted we managed turnovers almost every time they got close, but giving up so much yardage isn't good at all.

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inb4the2Pacjokes

lol yards
 

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The only plays that made me worried were seeing Tilman get beat deep by Bryant.. now that's going to happen and I don't know the coverage to tell if it was Wright out of position or it was a cover 3 and Wright was supposed to be up in that ...forgot what that gaps called... but that further up zone.

The middle is still exploitable when they run multiple routes to occupy the linebackers, but I think Urlacher is getting better each week. Should be as good as he'll get this year after the bye and hopefully that's more agile.
 

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Yards are fine, points are not.
 

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I'm glad someone brought this up, because I thought it might go unnoticed because of the blowout win and the 5 turnovers. The defense really was fortunate last night on the way the interceptions came to them. They couldn't stop Dallas from moving the ball last night. Romo was carving us up through the air left and right, and if it wasn't for some boneheaded Dez Bryant plays, the game could have turned out very differently. The defense was not great last night.

I know its all about how many points you give up as opposed to yardage, but I don't necessarily agree with that entirely. Usually, the less yards you give up, the less opportunity the other team has to score, right? What bothers me most is defending the no huddle offense. I've said this a million times, but we always seem to give up points just when the opposition decides to speed up the tempo. I don't know know the exact reason why, but it just seems as if we go into vanilla mode and stay in that deep cover 2 shell, which allows a quarterback to keep dumping it off to his receivers/rb's in space to pick up easy first downs..

Dallas put up 450 yards of total offense last night. I don't care if 80 of those yards came during the final drive, you still can't let the other team walk in for easy touchdowns.. It happened at the end of the game, and it happened in the last 3 minutes of the 1st half.. That stuff can't continue to happen because it's going to get you beat by a good team, in a close game, one of these days. It's got to get fixed.
 

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The only plays that made me worried were seeing Tilman get beat deep by Bryant.. now that's going to happen and I don't know the coverage to tell if it was Wright out of position or it was a cover 3 and Wright was supposed to be up in that ...forgot what that gaps called... but that further up zone.

The middle is still exploitable when they run multiple routes to occupy the linebackers, but I think Urlacher is getting better each week. Should be as good as he'll get this year after the bye and hopefully that's more agile.

Yeah, Tillman still makes plays but gets beat more and more every year. He will have to be replaced sooner than later since he is very long in the tooth. Maybe we can move him to safety?
 

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The defense wasn't great last night? Are you people high? **** my life.

I'll never fault a player for being at the right place at the right time, but if you watched the game, you saw how many times Romo missed some deep balls with wide open receivers, and you saw balls bouncing out of receivers hands that wound up being intercepted. They certainly took advantage of it, but I don't think it was nearly as dominating of a performance as it seemed to be.
 

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Yeah, Tillman still makes plays but gets beat more and more every year. He will have to be replaced sooner than later since he is very long in the tooth. Maybe we can move him to safety?

As long as they're heavy zone and in the Lovie Smith schemes of bend but don't break. He needs to stay at corner.. He loses his best ability if you move him to safety. His knack to be on corners swatting and punching the ball away is great because he is right on guys quickly.. it's not the same running from 10 yards away to try for the ball.. plus he'll likely get more hurt. If the scheme changed I could see it be smart but as the team goes now, he can still play well just as Antonie Winfield/Ronde Barber have done well playing with the age piling up.
 

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Anyone who doubts the D after last night really has no concept or haven't been paying attention OR really hate Lovie Smith. Last night was the prototypical outcome that he seeks with his idea of defense. HE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT YARDS. He wants to do the following:

Limit Scores
Get Turnovers, the more the better
And you had better get to the ball and tackle

That's it. If you haven't noticed that, then you aren't really paying attention.
 

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Apparently you don't realize that football is a situational sport. Every play determines the next play and so on and so forth. If one thing changes along the way then the outcome changes as well. To give you an example if Cutler had not fumbled the ball then Henry Melton would have never had the opportunity to force the Lance Briggs pick 6 play. Another example would be our obvious time consuming offense we were playing at the end of the game to chew up the clock. If you think we didn't leave points on the field intentionally then I guess you just go play by play and don't see how everything is impacted by the previous plays. I am not even close to worrying about our defense.

Our D-line was being held all god damned game long and even still they were creating pressure for the back end to do their job. I also really hate it when people don't give players credit for making plays in zone coverage. Just because they are doing their job by covering an area and the ball happens to come to their zone doesn't mean that they don't deserve credit for doing their job and making a play on the ball when their number is called.
 

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No, I'm not worried. I expected Dallas to gain a whole lot of yardage and not do anything with it. They played exactly into the Bears hands.

Yeah Romo missed a few throws which go for huge gains if he's spot on and/or Dez Bryant doesn't drop it. But overall, the Bears likely contain the Cowboys on points. Unless Wright or Conte miss tackles, neither of those throws go for touchdowns.
 

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Not worried at all. Bend don't break at it's best. Our playmakers made plays.
 

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The only thing that I worry about is defending the no huddle offense. We don't seem to fair well against it, for whatever reason. I still can't get that Denver game out of my head..
 

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Idk, Demarco Murray also coughed it up twice, we didn't get those balls either. It could have been even worse for the cowboys....I think we played a good game defensively, first half we were fantastic, held them to short drives the whole time, 2nd half we eased up a bit but the turnovers were coming. Remember, we turned it over that one time and they got it on our 30, that wasn't a drive. I can only think of two times they threatened to score a TD on a long drive outside of the Orton thing at the end.
 

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