Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Rose?

[D-12]

Alright so we all are familiar with or saving grace, he sent by god Derrick Rose. The kid is amazing theirs no doubt about it and he was a key part of our team taking the defending champs to seven games. However i cant help but notice the actions of the current rookie guards such as Tyreke Evans and Brandon Jennings. As Mark had posted a while back ago that the Brandon Jennings of a while ago was better then the derrick rose of now. now obviously that's not the case now but you cant argue that Brandon Jennings is not having a better rookie year then D-Rose. However someone that you cannot argue is having a better year then Derrick Rose is Tyreke Evans. Tyreke Evans has the same amount of turnovers as derrick rose at 2.8 and he's a rookie. Derrick rose has no excuse because his turnovers have increased since his last year. his minutes oare down a little to so thats should not be an excuse either. Tyreke Evans is having an incredible year and averaging over 20 points per game and more assist then Derrick rose. Tyreke Evans has already had 3 game wining shots and as Fred stated many times in his podcast {Chicago Bullseye) thats a very important characteristic. If you look at Derrick sure he's incredibly athletic and fast but he's not clutch. Next to Tyreke evans stats derrick rose fails in comparison in every category except Tyreke Evans field goal percentage is .02 less then rose however his 3 point percentage is .03 percent better then derricks. Now many people might look at The bulls record and compare that with the Kings but im telling you that comparison doesnt work because the kings dont have as much talent as the bulls. Some might say of tyreke's getting all the shots but the is a stupid statement when kevin martin is on that team as well. So i ask you chicago bulls fans please don involve your D-Rose bias in this. Are the rookie guards of now, rather is Tryeke Evans better then D-Rose right now. I say Yes.

 

[pinkizdead]

Re:Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Ro

mmmm. i think rose has a higher ceiling than rose. Rose has the potential to be a better pg than evans, and evans is a damn good sg. They have a similiar game(basically a style similar to tony parker and d wade), but rose is more athletic etc. ) i haven't seen Evans play, but i wouldnt mind having him on our team.

 

[Diddy1122]

Re:Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Ro

Evans is an extremely well rounded player. 6-5, 6-6, can handle & play the 1 with success, quick, strong, & athletic. However, Evans was the man from day 1 on the Kings out of necessity. And he didn't disappoint. The same can not be said of Rose his rookie year or even at the start of this year. Rose is just recently becoming the man. It was not until mid-December, when our record was atrocious, that Rose began to take over like we all knew he could. And for the month of January, Rose averaged nearly 24ppg & 7apg, while shooting close to 53% from the field, the majority of that being 15-20 footers. The only glaring blemish on Rose's resume is his FTA's. He's a paltry 3.9pg compared to Evans 6.3pg. But hopefully all that will change after February 14th.

It's tough to choose between the 2 but I'd put my money on Rose being the better player now & in the long run. There is just no one at his position with his combination of size, speed, & athleticism. We got a one-of-a-kind player. Thank you God.

 

[WearShades]

Re:Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Ro

Diddy1122 wrote:

It's tough to choose between the 2 but I'd put my money on Rose being the better player now & in the long run. There is just no one at his position with his combination of size, speed, & athleticism. We got a one-of-a-kind player. Thank you God.

This is the bottom line as far as I'm concerned. Can you imagine Evans being the best shooting guard in the NBA? Probably not. Can you imagine Rose being the best? It's definitely possible.

 

[houheffna]

Re:Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Ro

LOL...I have watched Tyreke Evans play about 25-30 games. Evans is a very good point guard, he hasn't played much shooting guard but I would imagine its possible. He is stronger than Rose, not as fast...he is also better offensively and defensively at this point. Evans can post, drive to the basket and can shoot from long range well. He has a lot of potential and should be an all-star next year...as Rose has benefited from Gordon's absence so did Evans benefit from Martin's injury...

Rose has been clutch over the last couple of weeks...I have no doubt that he will continue to improve in that area given the opportunities. Early in the season, Evans deferred to Martin in the clutch...as Rose was forced to do to Gordon because he didn't get a chance to play in crunch time. I really believe we are in an age of top notch point guards, with two more coming in

This is the bottom line as far as I'm concerned. Can you imagine Evans being the best shooting guard in the NBA? Probably not. Can you imagine Rose being the best? It's definitely possible.

I think you have that backwards...

 

[WearShades]

Re:Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Ro

houheffna wrote:

LOL...I have watched Tyreke Evans play about 25-30 games. Evans is a very good point guard, he hasn't played much shooting guard but I would imagine its possible. He is stronger than Rose, not as fast...he is also better offensively and defensively at this point. Evans can post, drive to the basket and can shoot from long range well. He has a lot of potential and should be an all-star next year...as Rose has benefited from Gordon's absence so did Evans benefit from Martin's injury...

Rose has been clutch over the last couple of weeks...I have no doubt that he will continue to improve in that area given the opportunities. Early in the season, Evans deferred to Martin in the clutch...as Rose was forced to do to Gordon because he didn't get a chance to play in crunch time. I really believe we are in an age of top notch point guards, with two more coming in

This is the bottom line as far as I'm concerned. Can you imagine Evans being the best shooting guard in the NBA? Probably not. Can you imagine Rose being the best? It's definitely possible.

I think you have that backwards...

I don't think I am, although I didn't Evans to be nearly this good, so perhaps I need to rethink this.

 

[cool007]

Re:Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Ro

This is my opinion based on many Kings games I have watched.

Evans is a shooting guard IMO, but Westphal put him as a PG so he has the ball in his hands most of the time and he likes his decision making. Ever since K-Mart2 got injured, Paul gave the keys to Evans and said "This is your team, lead us". Evans took it to heart and has been delivering.

The thing about it is, if the ball don't go through him like 2-3 straight possessions then Paul would call a timeout and make sure they all understand that Ball SHOULD BE on Evans hands. Paul has been backing up Evans like no other rooks been I have ever seen. Evans takes it to the hole sorta like Rose but anytime he gets hit and doesn't get a call, Paul would ALL OVER the refs and at times would get tech, since that point Evans start getting calls. I wish Vinny did the same. You will see Paul is up there with technicals as far as coaches are concerned coz he DOES Protect his best player evans.

Also, Evans reminds me a lot of Ron Artest (but with better handles). Evans already has a great NBA body and overpowers other PGs to get into the lane and since Paul got his back, he doesn't get Rookie treatment from refs either.

Evans is a pretty good guard and he will be an all-star pretty soon.

I disagree about him making all-star team in the next year or so. Unless Roy/Bryant gets traded/injured - plus there are so many other point guards that will be in the running ahead of him (CP3/Deron/etc).

 

[houheffna]

Re:Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Ro

This is my opinion based on many Kings games I have watched.

Evans is a shooting guard IMO, but Westphal put him as a PG so he has the ball in his hands most of the time and he likes his decision making. Ever since K-Mart2 got injured, Paul gave the keys to Evans and said "This is your team, lead us". Evans took it to heart and has been delivering.

The thing about it is, if the ball don't go through him like 2-3 straight possessions then Paul would call a timeout and make sure they all understand that Ball SHOULD BE on Evans hands. Paul has been backing up Evans like no other rooks been I have ever seen. Evans takes it to the hole sorta like Rose but anytime he gets hit and doesn't get a call, Paul would ALL OVER the refs and at times would get tech, since that point Evans start getting calls. I wish Vinny did the same. You will see Paul is up there with technicals as far as coaches are concerned coz he DOES Protect his best player evans.

Also, Evans reminds me a lot of Ron Artest (but with better handles). Evans already has a great NBA body and overpowers other PGs to get into the lane and since Paul got his back, he doesn't get Rookie treatment from refs either.

Evans is a pretty good guard and he will be an all-star pretty soon.

I disagree about him making all-star team in the next year or so. Unless Roy/Bryant gets traded/injured - plus there are so many other point guards that will be in the running ahead of him (CP3/Deron/etc).

Cool,

When, in college or in the pros have you seen him play shooting guard? They have pgs on the roster...like Magic Johnson, he ran the point in college...as I have said, he was trained by a very good nba pg in Rod Strickland...everybody is looking at him and saying he is a shooting guard...he has played pg the WHOLE YEAR...and its not all Paul...there is a lot of skill there...he is already a better rookie guard than any of the pgs named, if Martin is traded, the sky is the limit for that guy....

 

[D-12]

Re:Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Ro

actually i really cant imagine rose being the best point guard in the nba with players like chris play and derron williams in the game. a point guards job is to make shots for their teamates look at chris's assist rates and then compare it with derrick roses and he's is only 24 so its not like were compare steve nash to derrick. plus d-rose is going to have trouble aswell with john wall coming into the nba next year and everyone treating him as the derrick rose killer. d-rose has to keep it up if wants to be looked upon as the best.

 

[pinkizdead]

Re:Are the rookie gaurds of today better then D-Ro

do you want rose being the guy who defers? i'm not sure if that's the best role for him. i like him taking charge and looking for his own shot, and to set up guys for the assist. rose will never be paul, i see rose more as a lebron james like player than i do see him as a chris paul player.