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Matt Nagy, coach, Bears
In his first game as a head coach, Nagy looked like a lot like an Andy Reid season rolled into one game. The Bears got off to an incredibly hot start on offense, overwhelming the Packers with motion and looks they hadn't seen from the Bears in preseason. Chip Kelly ran the Emory and Henry offense for snaps in the NFL and split his tackles out, but the Packers weren't expecting to see left tackle Charles Leno lining up on the right side in trips with two other receivers. Throw in Khalil Mack's otherworldly first half and the Bears seemed like surefire locks to win at halftime in Lambeau.

Well, you saw what happened next. Aaron Rodgers took over, the pass rush slowed down, and the Bears secondary was exposed. Kyle Fuller was burned for a long touchdown by Geronimo Allison and later dropped a would-be interception that would have sealed the game. Prince Amukamara was beaten repeatedly by Davante Adams, who scored the second touchdown of the half. Rodgers finished the stunning 24-23 comeback win by finding Randall Cobb, who ran away from Eddie Jackson and sprinted upfield for a 75-yard touchdown.

Nagy contributed to the problems with some questionable decision-making on Chicago's last fourth-quarter drive with the lead. Reid has been criticized for throwing the ball and stopping the clock in years past, and when the Chiefs stopped running the ball during the second half of last season's playoff loss to the Titans, it was odd to see Reid take the blame while the team's new playcaller, Nagy, mostly avoided public scrutiny.

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Nagy on Rodgers: 'He's special, we all know that'Bears head coach Matt Nagy discusses Aaron Rodgers after the Packers overcame a 20-point deficit to win.
That won't be the case anymore, as Nagy played his way into the Packers' hands late in the game. With the Bears running the ball successfully on a drive that had already taken six full minutes off of the clock, Chicago faced a third-and-1 on the Green Bay 14-yard line with 2:47 to go and the Packers out of timeouts. A first down would have possibly allowed the Bears to run the clock down to 35 seconds or so before kicking a field goal (or picking up another first down to seal the game). Running the ball would have allowed the Bears, at the bare minimum, to take the clock near the two-minute warning.

Instead, Nagy threw the ball on third-and-1 on a pick play designed to get Anthony Miller open on a drag route and Tarik Cohen open downfield for a possible touchdown. Cohen somehow found a huge mismatch against 261-pound linebacker Reggie Gilbert, but Mitchell Trubisky tried to make the shorter pass and threw the ball too hard to Miller, whose drag route was sloppy and came way too shallow to take advantage of the picks while staying close to the first-down marker. Even if Trubisky had completed the pass, Miller would have struggled to get a first down or even make it back to the line of scrimmage.

What compounded the mistake on third-and-1, though, was the decision to kick on fourth-and-1. Coaches like to kick a field goal up three points late in games to force the opposing team to try to score a touchdown, but it has the strange habit of accidentally optimizing coaching behavior. When a team is down three points late in a game, its coaches will often set the target of kicking a field goal to extend the game and base their decision-making around getting in field goal range. This goes double for a conservative coach like Mike McCarthy.

When you go up six points, though, coaches have no choice but to empty the well and score a touchdown. I don't think it made a huge difference here because Cobb took an 11-yard pass to the house, but the Bears would have been in the ascendancy if they had gone for it in lieu of attempting a 32-yard field goal to make it a six-point lead, given their chances of success. Brian Burke's model suggests that the Bears should have gone for it if they thought they could convert fourth-and-short 19 percent of the time against the Packers in that situation.

Nagy will learn. There are worse fates than living up to Reid, who has built a career out of being the Honor Roll version of Jeff Fisher in winning 10 games like clockwork every season. Doug Pederson has proved that coaches can learn from Reid and still get aggressive, and the Bears looked about as terrifying as any team in football during the first half. They also blew a 17-point halftime lead, which teams rode to a 53-5 record over the past five seasons. This one will sting.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24630537/week-1-2018-nfl-replacements-change-season-comes-next
 

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Turning point - was the 3rd and 1.

Run the Ball. Period... If you run the ball in that situation the clock continues to run, no matter what you do next.

The Packer defense was gassed and only stopped the run on a couple of plays the entire game.

An RPO formation with a designed run was the proper call there, not an empty backfield...

Nagy was being aggressive, but in certain situations you must be smarter than your ego. If it had worked, we would all be singing his praises for the final drive... But it didn't. Hopefully he has learned...
 

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Turning point - was the 3rd and 1.

Run the Ball. Period... If you run the ball in that situation the clock continues to run, no matter what you do next.

The Packer defense was gassed and only stopped the run on a couple of plays the entire game.

An RPO formation with a designed run was the proper call there, not an empty backfield...

Nagy was being aggressive, but in certain situations you must be smarter than your ego. If it had worked, we would all be singing his praises for the final drive... But it didn't. Hopefully he has learned...

Howard had 5.5 yards on 15 carries, and Nagy decided to get cute on 3rd and 1.
 

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Matt Nagy, coach, Bears
In his first game as a head coach, Nagy looked like a lot like an Andy Reid season rolled into one game. The Bears got off to an incredibly hot start on offense, overwhelming the Packers with motion and looks they hadn't seen from the Bears in preseason. Chip Kelly ran the Emory and Henry offense for snaps in the NFL and split his tackles out, but the Packers weren't expecting to see left tackle Charles Leno lining up on the right side in trips with two other receivers. Throw in Khalil Mack's otherworldly first half and the Bears seemed like surefire locks to win at halftime in Lambeau.

Well, you saw what happened next. Aaron Rodgers took over, the pass rush slowed down, and the Bears secondary was exposed. Kyle Fuller was burned for a long touchdown by Geronimo Allison and later dropped a would-be interception that would have sealed the game. Prince Amukamara was beaten repeatedly by Davante Adams, who scored the second touchdown of the half. Rodgers finished the stunning 24-23 comeback win by finding Randall Cobb, who ran away from Eddie Jackson and sprinted upfield for a 75-yard touchdown.

Nagy contributed to the problems with some questionable decision-making on Chicago's last fourth-quarter drive with the lead. Reid has been criticized for throwing the ball and stopping the clock in years past, and when the Chiefs stopped running the ball during the second half of last season's playoff loss to the Titans, it was odd to see Reid take the blame while the team's new playcaller, Nagy, mostly avoided public scrutiny.

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Nagy on Rodgers: 'He's special, we all know that'Bears head coach Matt Nagy discusses Aaron Rodgers after the Packers overcame a 20-point deficit to win.
That won't be the case anymore, as Nagy played his way into the Packers' hands late in the game. With the Bears running the ball successfully on a drive that had already taken six full minutes off of the clock, Chicago faced a third-and-1 on the Green Bay 14-yard line with 2:47 to go and the Packers out of timeouts. A first down would have possibly allowed the Bears to run the clock down to 35 seconds or so before kicking a field goal (or picking up another first down to seal the game). Running the ball would have allowed the Bears, at the bare minimum, to take the clock near the two-minute warning.

Instead, Nagy threw the ball on third-and-1 on a pick play designed to get Anthony Miller open on a drag route and Tarik Cohen open downfield for a possible touchdown. Cohen somehow found a huge mismatch against 261-pound linebacker Reggie Gilbert, but Mitchell Trubisky tried to make the shorter pass and threw the ball too hard to Miller, whose drag route was sloppy and came way too shallow to take advantage of the picks while staying close to the first-down marker. Even if Trubisky had completed the pass, Miller would have struggled to get a first down or even make it back to the line of scrimmage.

What compounded the mistake on third-and-1, though, was the decision to kick on fourth-and-1. Coaches like to kick a field goal up three points late in games to force the opposing team to try to score a touchdown, but it has the strange habit of accidentally optimizing coaching behavior. When a team is down three points late in a game, its coaches will often set the target of kicking a field goal to extend the game and base their decision-making around getting in field goal range. This goes double for a conservative coach like Mike McCarthy.

When you go up six points, though, coaches have no choice but to empty the well and score a touchdown. I don't think it made a huge difference here because Cobb took an 11-yard pass to the house, but the Bears would have been in the ascendancy if they had gone for it in lieu of attempting a 32-yard field goal to make it a six-point lead, given their chances of success. Brian Burke's model suggests that the Bears should have gone for it if they thought they could convert fourth-and-short 19 percent of the time against the Packers in that situation.

Nagy will learn. There are worse fates than living up to Reid, who has built a career out of being the Honor Roll version of Jeff Fisher in winning 10 games like clockwork every season. Doug Pederson has proved that coaches can learn from Reid and still get aggressive, and the Bears looked about as terrifying as any team in football during the first half. They also blew a 17-point halftime lead, which teams rode to a 53-5 record over the past five seasons. This one will sting.


http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24630537/week-1-2018-nfl-replacements-change-season-comes-next

This is a fair assessment. The 3rd and one thing just killed me. I figure you either run it twice (if you don't convert on 3rd down) or if you want to try that pass play, you have to be committed to going on 4th down.
 

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Turning point - was the 3rd and 1.

Run the Ball. Period... If you run the ball in that situation the clock continues to run, no matter what you do next.

The Packer defense was gassed and only stopped the run on a couple of plays the entire game.

An RPO formation with a designed run was the proper call there, not an empty backfield...

Nagy was being aggressive, but in certain situations you must be smarter than your ego. If it had worked, we would all be singing his praises for the final drive... But it didn't. Hopefully he has learned...

It was Trestmanesque
 

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Turning point - was the 3rd and 1.

Run the Ball. Period... If you run the ball in that situation the clock continues to run, no matter what you do next.

The Packer defense was gassed and only stopped the run on a couple of plays the entire game.

An RPO formation with a designed run was the proper call there, not an empty backfield...

Nagy was being aggressive, but in certain situations you must be smarter than your ego. If it had worked, we would all be singing his praises for the final drive... But it didn't. Hopefully he has learned...

Turning point was not getting a TD and settling for a FG because you were up 17-0. That's when the originality of the play calling stopped and Nagy started getting conservative. He let off the gas and got afraid to keep attacking, my girlfriend asked me why I wasn't happy when the score was 20-0. I said because it's not 24-0 and we still have a 2nd half to play and then I heard Rodgers was coming back in the game. When they settled for a field goal rather than trying to get a TD it just felt like the same old fucking bears
 

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It was actually 3rd and 2 if you are referring to the play inside of 3 minutes to go in the game. Horrible spot by the officials. That said though, you still run it twice. They were struggling to stop Rodgers in the 2nd half. You have 2 chances to get the 1st down which ends the game.
 

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Turning point was not getting a TD and settling for a FG because you were up 17-0. That's when the originality of the play calling stopped and Nagy started getting conservative. He let off the gas and got afraid to keep attacking, my girlfriend asked me why I wasn't happy when the score was 20-0. I said because it's not 24-0 and we still have a 2nd half to play and then I heard Rodgers was coming back in the game. When they settled for a field goal rather than trying to get a TD it just felt like the same old fucking bears

Actually, the turning point was when it was 20-3 and Rodgers just had an intentional grounding making it 3rd and 14 from his own 15 yard line. And he was limping at that very moment. They then had an idiotic play on defense giving up 15 yards. From there, they couldn't stop the Packers at all.
 

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Something to consider...
We saw how good they can be and how bad in game one. Best to have any weakness exposed early.
The key now is learning that wicked hard lesson and adjusting.
 

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Something to consider...
We saw how good they can be and how bad in game one. Best to have any weakness exposed early.
The key now is learning that wicked hard lesson and adjusting.

15-1. Calling it now!
 

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Something to consider...
We saw how good they can be and how bad in game one. Best to have any weakness exposed early.
The key now is learning that wicked hard lesson and adjusting.

I would've rather those weaknesses come in the Seattle game, not the fucking puker game. This losing mentality when it comes to the puke is ridiculous
 

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Actually, the turning point was when it was 20-3 and Rodgers just had an intentional grounding making it 3rd and 14 from his own 15 yard line. And he was limping at that very moment. They then had an idiotic play on defense giving up 15 yards. From there, they couldn't stop the Packers at all.

No, when the puke shit defense was able to stop the Bears from getting a TD on that drive, the momentum shifted to the puke because they then knew they could hold the Bears offense and also let mcfatty know that the Bears were going into protect the lead play calling
 

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