Bears had talks with OT Morgan Moses

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Bears had talks with OT Morgan Moses​


It sounds like the Bears are in the market for a starting left tackle, Ben Levine of Pro Football Rumors reports. NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo tweets that Chicago “had fruitful talks” with Morgan Moses.

The Bears intended to play Moses at left tackle. Garafolo notes that Moses is more comfortable playing right tackle, and the veteran will ultimately play that position with the Jets.

It’s not a huge surprise that the Bears are looking for some reinforcement at offensive tackle. The organization moved on from veterans Charles Leno Jr. and Bobby Massie this past offseason, and Moses would have provided some experience to an offensive tackle corps that has appeared in a total of 10 career games. The team drafted Teven Jenkins in the second round of this past year’s draft, but even if the team throws him into the starting lineup, they could still use some extra depth.

 

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Is there any other veteran LTs out there to sign?

Sounds like we're loading up on RTs - fingers crossed - hoping one of them can play LT.

This should scare us:

Moses would have provided some experience to an offensive tackle corps that has appeared in a total of 10 career games.

Just wow.
 

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Is there any other veteran LTs out there to sign?

Sounds like we're loading up on RTs - fingers crossed - hoping one of them can play LT.

This should scare us:

Moses would have provided some experience to an offensive tackle corps that has appeared in a total of 10 career games.

Just wow.
Russell Okung
 

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Yeah, at least he's actually played LT.


Pretty serious injuries tho.

During the 2019 offseason, Okung suffered a pulmonary embolism due to blood clots in his lungs.[45] He was placed on the reserve/non-football illness list to start the season.[46] He was activated off NFI on October 26, 2019.[47]

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On March 4, 2020, the Chargers agreed to trade Okung to the Carolina Panthers in exchange for guard Trai Turner.[48] The deal became official on March 18.[49] He only made seven starts at left tackle due to injury.
 

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Yeah, at least he's actually played LT.


Pretty serious injuries tho.

During the 2019 offseason, Okung suffered a pulmonary embolism due to blood clots in his lungs.[45] He was placed on the reserve/non-football illness list to start the season.[46] He was activated off NFI on October 26, 2019.[47]

Carolina PanthersEdit

On March 4, 2020, the Chargers agreed to trade Okung to the Carolina Panthers in exchange for guard Trai Turner.[48] The deal became official on March 18.[49] He only made seven starts at left tackle due to injury.
At the very least even if he misses time from injury I think he's a pretty intelligent dude that could work with and impart some knowledge on Jenkins and borom
 

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Is there any other veteran LTs out there to sign?

Sounds like we're loading up on RTs - fingers crossed - hoping one of them can play LT.

This should scare us:

Moses would have provided some experience to an offensive tackle corps that has appeared in a total of 10 career games.

Just wow.

Yeah. Cutting Leno so soon looks to be a premature move on Pace's part.

 

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Yeah. Cutting Leno so soon looks to be a premature move on Pace's part.

I think we are over analyzing this Leno move. He wasn’t good, was over paid, and didn’t fit the system they wanted to run.
 

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Yeah. Cutting Leno so soon looks to be a premature move on Pace's part.

My feeling on this is we are moving to two TE sets and want to be able to run or pass either direction equally. Rts are cheaper and could be serviceable in the right offensive balance.

No need to protect your QB with all your assets as refs do it for you to a large extent.
 

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I think we are over analyzing this Leno move. He wasn’t good, was over paid, and didn’t fit the system they wanted to run.
It's not that he was cut, it's that he has no replacement.

No one knows if Jenkins can play LT at the pro level.

It's been reported Morgan didn't want to play LT for the Bears because he's more comfortable at RT...AFTER 7 YEARS IN THE PROS!

But ppl seem to think Jenkins can do it outta college.
 

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It's not that he was cut, it's that he has no replacement.

No one knows if Jenkins can play LT at the pro level.

It's been reported Morgan didn't want to play LT for the Bears because he's more comfortable at RT...AFTER 7 YEARS IN THE PROS!

But ppl seem to think Jenkins can do it outta college.
What does Moses not wanting to play LT have to do with Jenkins? That’s his personal decision. You are right, we don’t know if Jenkins can play LT, but we sure will find out after this season. Maybe he can do it outta college. He wouldn’t be the first RT in college to immediately start at LT as a rookie…..I know, shocking!
 

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Yeah. Cutting Leno so soon looks to be a premature move on Pace's part.

I don’t think it was for how poor Leno was as a LT. Even if Jenkins struggles some this year with the adjustment, do you honestly think he will be worse than Leno?
 

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I don’t think it was for how poor Leno was as a LT. Even if Jenkins struggles some this year with the adjustment, do you honestly think he will be worse than Leno?
it’s about managing risk.

Leno is a known commodity, even if a crappy commodity.

Jenkins is a complete unknown, now granted you can project reasonably for him, but it’s a projection with limited college experience to project from. if it goes to shit, you’ve risked your potential franchise savior getting injured or struggling because of bad LT play.

even if you want to have kmet on the edge to help Jenkins (because Graham can’t do it) you limit his experience and reps at moving to more of a receiving threat after Graham leaves.
 

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it’s about managing risk.

Leno is a known commodity, even if a crappy commodity.

Jenkins is a complete unknown, now granted you can project reasonably for him, but it’s a projection with limited college experience to project from. if it goes to shit, you’ve risked your potential franchise savior getting injured or struggling because of bad LT play.

even if you want to have kmet on the edge to help Jenkins (because Graham can’t do it) you limit his experience and reps at moving to more of a receiving threat after Graham leaves.
With how Leno was playing, I’d much rather have a second round tackle who is unknown over him. One can argue that Jenkins as a rookie has better fundamentals and footwork than Leno had in 7 years. That’s how bad Leno was. There is a risk for the QB to get hurt every time he drops back to throw the ball. There are several ways to help with chip blocks, you don’t have to only use a TE.
 

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With how Leno was playing, I’d much rather have a second round tackle who is unknown over him. One can argue that Jenkins as a rookie has better fundamentals and footwork than Leno had in 7 years. That’s how bad Leno was. There is a risk for the QB to get hurt every time he drops back to throw the ball. There are several ways to help with chip blocks, you don’t have to only use a TE.
if Nagy was to use anybody other than Cole Kmet for chips, CCS would never shut up about Nagy and his “trick plays”.

I can see it now, there will be entire threads dedicated to betting on which week we will see Cohen with a hand in the dirt.
 

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I don’t understand the timing of releasing Leno, happy they finally did but would have waited until training camp or after. Don’t know if there are or were cap ramifications for him sticking around.
 

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I don't agree with this. While Leno generally completed his initial assignment with his walrus move (PFF grade), he offered nothing in extended plays, secondary blocks or actually moving defenders.

Jenkins may have some development issues with pass rush but there's a lot a value added there in terms of 2nd level blocks and generating gaps. He also won't matador a block. It doesn't matter if your LT gets a decent PFF grade when he doesn't move people or when he does get beat it's on a short path to the backfield, that grade don't mean a whole lot.
 
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It's not that he was cut, it's that he has no replacement.

No one knows if Jenkins can play LT at the pro level.

It's been reported Morgan didn't want to play LT for the Bears because he's more comfortable at RT...AFTER 7 YEARS IN THE PROS!

But ppl seem to think Jenkins can do it outta college.
But we do know Charles Leno Jr. couldn't play left tackle at the pro level. So this is an upgrade, even if there is substantial risk.
 

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