Bears to play at TCF

[ClydeLee]

The fact that everyone is concerned about the Bears being able to play in the the cold and snow is just one more reason Lovie needs to go.

Um, how does that make any sense? Under Lovie the Bears have 2 losses in below 32 degree weather now. Is not 100% not perfect enough for your ideal Chicago mold?

So because people are concerned the Bears might struggle in the cold he should be fired even regardless of then him perhaps having his 3rd division crown in 7 seasons if he wins this game. And as bad as you say he so definitely is. BTW Next best in the division in that category is McCarthy with 1 division win in 5 years.

 

[Jysen]

The fact that everyone is concerned about the Bears being able to play in the the cold and snow is just one more reason Lovie needs to go.

I dont see how thats a justification to have Lovie or any coach fired. I think the majority are more concerned with the players ability to perform at a high level. I didnt get to watch the game, but our guys were affected by the conditions. Not taking anything away from the Pats, but under better conditions, wouldve been competitive.

 

[Scoot26]

@ Scoot26- Since when cant the Bears play in the cold? Unless Im mistaken, it was cold, and snowing when we won the NFC Conference the 06 year, or was that confetti? And who said it was the end of the World? I simply stated, if what we witnessed sunday is any indication to this years team in extreme weather, and if it happens again, will our D respond with any team? BUT, the fact the Vikings QBs are questionable and Peterson is still a beast, I have faith we'll respond and beat em regardless of weather.

Oh, and that wasnt sarcasm by the way... But it was snow wasnt it? Or was that confetti? lol. And never said the Pats aint an elite team. I respect what theyve accomplished. My only concerns deal with Da Bears and recent performances. And while the Pats are elite, anticipated a close, great game, but the weather played a serious factor to their performance. Thats my concern if the weather goes to shit Monday as its not a dome stadium.

Your original comment was implying that the defense cant play an inch of defense if it snows.

It wont matter whos the QB at this point, if the weather is anything like Sunday was, the question may be, will we have any defense? The passing may lack, but they got a running game still. But I got faith that after that beat down, there should be motivation on our part.

My point was directed at everyone who's been saying that and to simply look at what the Pats have done in snow games. They play better in those games than they do in games without snow. They do not miss a beat. They play with the same exact speed as they would without snow while the Bears were indeed slowed down by the snow. Maybe the Patriots practice in alot of snow, while we might not have ever practiced in snow.

That said, if the Bears were to play the Vikings in snow..you think they'll be prepared such as the Patriots are? The Vikings are a dome team, they have absolutely no experience playing in snow. The Patriots are probably the only team in the history of the NFL with the ability to do what they did to us and their past 3 snow opponents in the snow.

The snow weather is a concern, but its not that big of a deal. And as far cold weather goes, the Bears have had no problem with cold weather in the past.

 

[Scoot26]

And by the way, the forecast for Monday in Minneapolis is 11 degrees, party cloudy...in the evening temperatures will be in the single digits.

 

[Scoot26]

Questions remain on TCF readiness
As we noted Tuesday night, TCF Bank Stadium remains the likeliest candidate to host Monday night's game between the Chicago Bears and Minnesota Vikings. But the Vikings continue to hedge their public statements on the matter as University of Minnesota officials work feverishly to ready the stadium for an NFL game.

So it's worth noting that Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay tweeted earlier Wednesday that he is "Ready, willing & avail to help the Vikings out this Mon night if necessary." In other words, Indianapolis is one of several backup options should efforts at TCF Bank Stadium fail or be delayed by a snowstorm forecast for midweek in the Twin Cities.

As it stands, some details are starting to emerge about the stadium conversion process. Among them:

* The school is looking for temporary workers to shovel snow for $10 per hour in six-hour shifts between now and Sunday. There are 20-inch drifts throughout the stadium, which has been dormant since last month.

* Among other adjustments, officials will have to place Plexiglass shields in front of concession stands to ensure they remain heated during the game.

* The school needs to turn water supplies back on and ensure that pipes don't freeze over in the meantime, a tricky December task.

* The artificial surface at TCF Bank Stadium has been under snow for weeks and is not heated. A frozen playing surface is one of many player safety issues that need to be addressed.

* I'm sure no one cares about this detail. But at the moment, attorneys are investigating whether alcohol can be sold during Monday night's game. It has been outlawed for University of Minnesota games the past two years.

* For those of you who are asking, we haven't gotten any word yet as to how the Vikings will deal with perhaps the biggest challenge: Whittling down at least 12,000 pre-sold tickets to compensate for the drop-off in capacity between the Metrodome and TCF Bank Stadium. Sit tight on that one.

Questions remain on TCF readiness - NFC North Blog - ESPN

 

[IronMike]

Wow, you guys take one little thing completely misinterpret it and go off.

The Bears weren't competitive against the Pats because they're not that good. It had nothing to do with the cold or the snow. Are you guys not from Chicago? If the point of playing in the NFL was to win the division then that'd be all well and good but to settle for that as the greatest thing a team can achieve? What the hell?

 

[ClydeLee]

Wow, you guys take one little thing completely misinterpret it and go off.

The Bears weren't competitive against the Pats because they're not that good. It had nothing to do with the cold or the snow. Are you guys not from Chicago? If the point of playing in the NFL was to win the division then that'd be all well and good but to settle for that as the greatest thing a team can achieve? What the hell?

There is not often ever. 1 factor in an outcome in life. You can chose to see things one pure way but its very more complex.

Patriots dominated the Bears because they are a better team, but they were more dominant than any other team in snow games in the past decade. It also makes a huge factor on the style of play. Bears defense is main attack is speed. Patriots defense is heavy on strategy and moving parts and more power up front than speed up front.

If they played on a solid clean field you likely get a lot less time for Brady all day on throws and less power up front dominating which is what happened.

 

[IronMike]

I've been here for almost 40 years now and it has been cold and snowy every December of my life. Actually it used to be a lot worse. You guys are just trying to make excuses.

 

[IronMike]

And to your point about complexity you're right. There are a lot of things wrong with this Bears team which is why they need an entirely new coaching staff for starters.

 

[ClydeLee]

Yes it is cold and snowy every winter in Chicago. So? Does it snow every Sunday in December? No. Are the Bears still 13-2 in their last games in 32 below degree's weather in Solider Field. Yes. Cold, Wind, Snow, all have different effects on a football game, that's why they are fun to watch when they are there and they effect different style of players in certain ways depending on what they are trying to do with their physical abilities on a football field.

An entirely new coaching staff puts the team BACKWARDS. Hurts your offensive development, hurts the defense which would go through a schematic change, and there is less chance for success next season and possibly the season after with a coaching change. How do you not get that? Because your convinced Lovie is a bad coach despite factors of other-wising saying so. He wins against the Vikings he has a division secure. Has done so with a team who still has a chance to win playoff games against the NFC full of only above average looking playoff teams. (Just not expecting a falling apart Packers team to beat Patriots and the Giants back to back at all)

 

[IronMike]

You're still making excuses. Lovie wins the division and might win a couple playoff games BECAUSE the conference is weak.

That's not Bears football. I'm not satisfied with that. I want them to be dominant. Sure for you guys that have only been watching them for 10 or 20 years this might seem great but it isn't. Not by a long shot.

So they don't rebuild or take a hard look at anything what can we hope for next season? Another division win if we're lucky. Sorry, doesn't cut it.

 

[zack54attack]

Per Israel Idonije

"We haven't been informed by the NFL where we are playing yet"



WTF.

 

[ClydeLee]

Per Israel Idonije

"We haven't been informed by the NFL where we are playing yet"



WTF.

What you people didn't know despite your thread title. The TCF Bank game isn't official. They don't know if they can get it ready still because of all the work going on. If it isn't up to NFL standards it will be played at a Dome stadium somewhere in USA. That's the only thing standard set.

The related news is the Colts owner said he will be open to take the game in the stadium there if it has to come to that. So it's not official if it'll be at U of M, Indy, or Detroit.. I can't imagine it being elsewhere than those options.

 

[ClydeLee]

I don't think Minny has a giant turf advantage, The Bears are still based on speed. Minny gets the advantage in their dome because of its noise... The vikings would be greatly opposed to the Indy-Detroit proximity to Chicago making it nearly a home game.

So according to Brad Biggs. Atlanta, New Orleans, and maybe Dallas are potential locations.