Biggs: Pace in shaky ground

[WestCoastBearsFan]

No it’s a team stat and he is the most important player on the team.

and the team let watson down, not the other way around.

 

[Wild_x_Card]

I mean....Pippens first year without Jordan he was first-team All-NBA and All-Defense while finishing third in MVP voting.

 

[Midway Fields]

and lost to the Bears. Watson is a very good quarterback that seems to need perfection around him to win.
His only victories came against...Jacksonville, Detroit and New England.

He is still better than what we have but it doesn’t mean we would be in bettered worse shape with him.
We will never know and can never prove it.

I think the Texans should have waited on the huge contract they gave him.
O-8 against non losing teams.
They started 0-4 went 4-4 in the middle ended 0-4.

The Texans lost 38-41 yesterday. Gave up a bomb to AJ Brown w/ 30 seconds left to put them in fg range. Their defense gave up 30+ in 8 games. Watson doesn’t need perfection to win, just a defense in the middle of the pack rather than bottom 3.

 

[Raskolnikov]

I would think only a KC person familiar with Nagy would take the job with him already in place. If Pace goes everyone needs to go IMO.

Well that sounds like Nagy finally won the power struggle with Pace.

Either one of Pace's farts finally stunk up the press box, Phillips decided not to go down without taking some heads, or Pace himself realizes his Chicago opportunity is played out and he should move on to greener pastures while he can before his image is completely tarnished, and is himself the driving impetus to speed up the process and just let Nagy finish this himself with his own guy.

Edit: or what Bruno said. I think that is a great take on it.

 

[JesusHalasChrist]

I don't have any problem with keeping Nagy for another year. The Bears are not going to be competitive with the quarterbacks available to them. Let him take on the stink of losing so the next head coach can have more of a fresh start.

 

[BearsJR]

Pace passed on Jordan and Kobe and traded up for Sam Bowie.

It will be a good 30 of 30 episode.

If you don’t think a GM should be fired for that, no GM should ever be fired.

Terrible analogy, but I do agree he should be fired for such an epic whiff.

 

[NCChiFan]

As was pointed out last night on one of the post game shows. The problem is the Bears Organization. They have gone through 3 GM using the same metrics to hire all three. All three have failed. It isn't the GM's (sorta) that's the problem but the metric used to hire them which hasn't changed because the same dude is in charge. There is not a scenario where this is fixed without fixing the guy at the top.

Change has to start there.

 

[JesusHalasChrist]

As was pointed out last night on one of the post game shows. The problem is the Bears Organization. They have gone through 3 GM using the same metrics to hire all three. All three have failed. It isn't the GM's (sorta) that's the problem but the metric used to hire them which hasn't changed because the same dude is in charge. There is not a scenario where this is fixed without fixing the guy at the top.

Change has to start there.

What 'metrics' are being used?

 

[Anytime23]

LOL at comparing Watson to either Kobe or Jordan, but then again you are like 0 for life at QB eval. He is Scottie Pippen at best.

One of the top 50 players of all-time? That Scottie Pippen?

 

[NCChiFan]

What 'metrics' are being used?

According to the analysts... Whatever metric used to hire three bad GM's in a row. The Bears are looking for a certain TYPE of GM. All three fit that "type" according to the expert. Not sure he defined it, except to say, the type has not been successful, as the results have shown.

Edit: Basically, the Bears need someone else picking the GM... Not the same guy who's picked the last three.

 

[BearsJR]

wins are not a QB stat

In Chicago they always are.

 

[HearshotKDS]

Someone explain to me how the fuck is Pace on shaky ground but Nagy safe? Both of these retards should be fired. What a bush-league organization.

A charitable interpretation would be: Nagy isn't on 'shaky ground' because ownership doesn't want to meddle with football decisions and will let keeping Nagy or firing him be 100% the decision of the next GM, a decision they will support regardless which way it goes.

But given how ownership basically told Pace when he was hired that he had to go with Fox for coach, I think it's more likely that if this report is true, its ownership sticking their incompetent ASU educated noses where they don't fuckin belong.

IN a perfect world both are shitcanned after losing to NO next week.

 

[fx1718]

Just looked it up yes 2012 they fired cam Cameron week 14. So when the defense was going no where they could of made some moves to right the ship cause the captain right now is a failure. Week 14 move saved their season and got them a Super Bowl

Cameron was Paganos replacement, no?

 

[fx1718]

Worked pretty well for Ballard...

Colts don't have a long term solution at QB either and Rivers is set to retire. Lets see Ballard get them a franchise QB before we anoint him like people on here like to do.

 

[bears26]

The Bears have to get the QB position right and now they have to get the DC position right because Pagano is just plain garbage. Trey Lance is the QB that could be in the range the Bears will be drafting or in trade up range. Until the Bears get the QB position right, these coaches and GMs will always be on the bubble. I can tell you this, I absolutely hate these short pass routes from the Green Bay game (do not threaten the defense at all). The other issue is the Bears may need up to 5 new receivers next year. Mooney is a very good receiver and other than Robinson, there is no other receiver that is a serious threat. Wims is worthless out there.

 

[Leomaz]

The Texans lost 38-41 yesterday. Gave up a bomb to AJ Brown w/ 30 seconds left to put them in fg range. Their defense gave up 30+ in 8 games. Watson doesn’t need perfection to win, just a defense in the middle of the pack rather than bottom 3.

Yep......he lost to a good team......seems like it’s a constant with quarterbacks this season. It easy to blame the defense when the offense settles for 5 FGs. If 2 of those were TDs, I wonder what the outcome would have been.
The Titans had 7 scoring drives and the Texans had 8 . Seems like the offense should at least share some blame.

 

[ijustposthere]

Colts don't have a long term solution at QB either and Rivers is set to retire. Lets see Ballard get them a franchise QB before we anoint him like people on here like to do.

Colts are in a far better situation than the Bears. LOL, and he built around a franchise QB that just happened to retire. They also have a good HC. I'd take Ballard over Pace.

 

[Midway Fields]

Yep......he lost to a good team......seems like it’s a constant with quarterbacks this season. It easy to blame the defense when the offense settles for 5 FGs. If 2 of those were TDs, I wonder what the outcome would have been.
The Titans had 7 scoring drives and the Texans had 8 . Seems like the offense should at least share some blame.

It’s amusing to me to see coming from a Bears fan when it’s not the Bears and a team gives up 41 that the QB is blamed for not doing enough.

The Texans gave up 200+ rushing yards to Henry.

Lol.

 

[Midway Fields]

Terrible analogy, but I do agree he should be fired for such an epic whiff.

It’s a fucking great analogy.

 

[Leomaz]

I don't have any problem with keeping Nagy for another year. The Bears are not going to be competitive with the quarterbacks available to them. Let him take on the stink of losing so the next head coach can have more of a fresh start.

What quarterbacks are available to them....