Black Friday

[TSD]

I have too many uber-hippy friends.



So I woke today with a facebook post from a friend, demonizing retailers for black friday, telling people to vote with their money by not shopping and show retailers its no acceptable to make employees work and miss probably have to skip their thanksgiving, to rest up for black friday.



I didnt reply to the post even though I wanted to, i know I wouldnt be welcome as a degree holding corporate slave among a swath of education/starbucks employees and or disgruntled retail employees.



1. The only reason it exists is because people want it to. Dont blame the damn company for giving people what they want.

2. When i did a seasonal stint in retail in highschool, we got paid double time to work black friday, so I am guessing many of the workers would actually disagree with the post too.

3. Oh **** me, the poor retail workers have to do their job and get paid, woe is them.





I think as much as the next person that American corporations should carry a sense of patriotism, and not lose money, but maybe accept lower profits to keep people employed, as eventually it will benefit us all in the long run, as it means more people employed more people buying more friggin profits.



But now, demonizing companies for giving employees work? What the hell is that shit?

 

[MassHavoc]

Black Friday is a huge reason why a lot of those workers have jobs. Retail is one of the biggest swings for temp work during the holdiays and black friday pays for a lot of the stuff that sustains a bottom line. Most of the door busters and loss leaders people see as making it not worth it, but once you have people in the store the other lesser deals they can't resist and the company still makes the percent back and then some in bulk. I think it's a horrible day as I would never drag my ass out in it because I hate people, but it makes sense for a lot of reasons and some people end up getting some really good deals if they can resist the rest of the stuff. You could object for many reason, I'm just not sure what they stated is some of them.



And for the record, I never got anything extra on this day when I was in retail, except for hours on my shift.

 

[winos5]

We almost never shop Black Friday. Not worth the aggravation in the stores, traffic, getting up early to wait in line ect....

 

[supraman]

That's what the internet is for. Also everyone on facebook wants to make some profound statement which always seems to fall flat. I get on there, play Mafia Wars 2 and get off. **** social networks, they are Special person.

 

[mikita's helmet]

That's what the internet is for.

Yep, make a few purchases online at Midnight, hit the hay & sleep in, while the wife, her brother and my mother in law all get up early, deal with the crowds and parking, to save a few bucks.



NO THANKS!

 

[jaxhawksfan]

I have too many uber-hippy friends.



So I woke today with a facebook post from a friend, demonizing retailers for black friday, telling people to vote with their money by not shopping and show retailers its no acceptable to make employees work and miss probably have to skip their thanksgiving, to rest up for black friday.



I didnt reply to the post even though I wanted to, i know I wouldnt be welcome as a degree holding corporate slave among a swath of education/starbucks employees and or disgruntled retail employees.



1. The only reason it exists is because people want it to. Dont blame the damn company for giving people what they want.

2. When i did a seasonal stint in retail in highschool, we got paid double time to work black friday, so I am guessing many of the workers would actually disagree with the post too.

3. Oh **** me, the poor retail workers have to do their job and get paid, woe is them.





I think as much as the next person that American corporations should carry a sense of patriotism, and not lose money, but maybe accept lower profits to keep people employed, as eventually it will benefit us all in the long run, as it means more people employed more people buying more friggin profits.



But now, demonizing companies for giving employees work? What the hell is that shit?

I've felt this way about Wal-Mart for a long time. If people want to buy cheap shit from China it isn't the store's fault.

 

[jakobeast]

Those folks are working. I am sure it is just fine. I sure they may ***** a little, as most of us do, but they are working. They are making money, Better then what, 9% of the nation that wants to work?

 

[Bringmepie]

Yep, make a few purchases online at Midnight, hit the hay & sleep in, while the wife, her brother and my mother in law all get up early, deal with the crowds and parking, to save a few bucks.



NO THANKS!

I agree, go out to the stores beforehand, see what's out there up close and in real life as opposed to the tiny pictures on your screen. That goes doubly for clothes where it's no guarantee they'll have the sizes you need for you and your family.

 

[the canadian dream]

Those folks are working. I am sure it is just fine. I sure they may ***** a little, as most of us do, but they are working. They are making money, Better then what, 9% of the nation that wants to work?

But doesn't the argument about losing manufacturing jobs come into play here? Isn't that one of the biggest issues in America? Supporting home made products and producing manufacturing AND sales jobs at the same time?



I don't support companies like Wall Mart etc. I do agree that people make their own choices where they purchase their items but when you are not given a secondary option then the consumer is sort of pushed in one direction. small town example.... A Wall Mart opened in a small town back where I grew up (population maybe 15 thousand) they built it about 3 klm outside the small downtown business sector with a lot of mom and pop shops and smaller chain stores. The mere existence of that Wall Mart and the location it was built in killed the downtown shopping district and to a large extent the community. Agree the people of that town chose to shop at the Wall Mart but the allowance of the store from city hall cost the community more jobs in retail than what the Wall Mart created. When you start losing foot traffic in a business sector all surrounding retailers suffer and a trickle down effect occurs. This is what happened.



That was probably more so an issue with town hall but I don't think those who own the Wall Mart really give two shits about the effect it would have on the community as a whole either when it purchased the space to develop on.

 

[jakobeast]

But doesn't the argument about losing manufacturing jobs come into play here? Isn't that one of the biggest issues in America? Supporting home made products and producing manufacturing AND sales jobs at the same time?



I don't support companies like Wall Mart etc. I do agree that people make their own choices where they purchase their items but when you are not given a secondary option then the consumer is sort of pushed in one direction. small town example.... A Wall Mart opened in a small town back where I grew up (population maybe 15 thousand) they built it about 3 klm outside the small downtown business sector with a lot of mom and pop shops and smaller chain stores. The mere existence of that Wall Mart and the location it was built in killed the downtown shopping district and to a large extent the community. Agree the people of that town chose to shop at the Wall Mart but the allowance of the store from city hall cost the community more jobs in retail than what the Wall Mart created. When you start losing foot traffic in a business sector all surrounding retailers suffer and a trickle down effect occurs. This is what happened.



That was probably more so an issue with town hall but I don't think those who own the Wall Mart really give two shits about the effect it would have on the community as a whole either when it purchased the space to develop on.

Manufacturing jobs are mostly gone. When a machine can do your job, it means you will more then likely loose your job. If there is someone who can/will do your job for cheaper in another country, then it's gonna happen. It sucks, but there have been signs that those jobs may be migrating back to the US shores, albeit at an amazingly slow pace.



I don't shop at Wal-Mart. It isn't for some ideological reason, like they don't pay well or they destroy small business. Well, maybe a little, but it isn't all of it. I just plain don't like their stuff.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

THIS DAY IS RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!