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It's been interesting to hear the Trump nut huggers defend the Cheeto today at work for this commutation. A short time ago, I remember these same people saying they should throw the book at Blago and today they love him. I get so confused about how and why people blindly buy into pols. Oh well.
 
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It's been interesting to hear the Trump nut huggers defend the Cheeto today at work for this commutation. A short time ago, I remember these same people saying they should throw the book and Blago and today they love him. I get so confused about how and why people blindly buy into pols. Oh well.
You mean like @Urblock ? ;-)
 

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It's been interesting to hear the Trump nut huggers defend the Cheeto today at work for this commutation. A short time ago, I remember these same people saying they should throw the book at Blago and today they love him. I get so confused about how and why people blindly buy into pols. Oh well.
If the Mods were to be fair they would ban you for bringing political discussions into this forum. Wrong forum idiot
 

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If the Mods were to be fair they would ban you for bringing political discussions into this forum. Wrong forum idiot
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Say what you will about what this (and this certainly has more to do with Comey than it does Blago), but this has far more to do with sentencing practices than anything else. Keeping in mind that the judge in the case declared a mistrial on 23 of the 24 counts, that the judge in the case was the same judge who only gave Nick Calabrese (who committed 14 murders) 12 years because he helped in the "Family Secrets" Trial, and that what Blago did was nonviolent, him serving 8 years is fucking insane. Any opponent of the Prison Industrial Complex should first ask themselves about federal sentencing guidelines before they attempt to examine Trump's motivations for this.

Now, because this will certainly need to be added: none of this changes the fact that Blago is an enormous piece of shit.
 

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Say what you will about what this (and this certainly has more to do with Comey than it does Blago), but this has far more to do with sentencing practices than anything else. Keeping in mind that the judge in the case declared a mistrial on 23 of the 24 counts, that the judge in the case was the same judge who only gave Nick Calabrese (who committed 14 murders) 12 years because he helped in the "Family Secrets" Trial, and that what Blago did was nonviolent, him serving 8 years is fucking insane. Any opponent of the Prison Industrial Complex should first ask themselves about federal sentencing guidelines before they attempt to examine Trump's motivations for this.

Now, because this will certainly need to be added: none of this changes the fact that Blago is an enormous piece of shit.
you're the best, @Gustavus Adolphus , but I still want a tech forum
 

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@Raskolnikov disliked it. So I'm probably wrong about my take.
your take makes a lot of sense to me. Sentencing guidelines are fucking imbalanced, but federal fraud should carry a lot of weight to it, but maybe not tantamount to state charges on murder. That said, yes, I am biased because Trump is doing it, but this isn't how pardons are supposed to work/commutations?
 

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your take makes a lot of sense to me. Sentencing guidelines are fucking imbalanced, but federal fraud should carry a lot of weight to it, but maybe not tantamount to state charges on murder. That said, yes, I am biased because Trump is doing it, but this isn't how pardons are supposed to work/commutations?
Marvin Mandel, Casper Weinberger (and the rest of the Iran-Contra fucks), McDougal, Mel Reynolds, Rosty, Scooter Libby, Chelsea Manning - the presidential power to pardon is a fucking weird one.
 

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Marvin Mandel, Casper Weinberger (and the rest of the Iran-Contra fucks), McDougal, Mel Reynolds, Rosty, Scooter Libby, Chelsea Manning - the presidential power to pardon is a fucking weird one.
fair enough, but I suppose the brazenness of doing it not right before you leave office because you think it can shore up your reelection campaign, and... **** it, I have nothing to argue against other presidents doing it. You win.
 

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fair enough, but I suppose the brazenness of doing it not right before you leave office because you think it can shore up your reelection campaign, and... **** it, I have nothing to argue against other presidents doing it. You win.
I'm 100% with you about '**** Trump,' but as far as Blago goes, he got this one right. When it comes to Libby, Kerik, Arpaio, and eventually, Stone, yeah....**** Trump.

I just think the power the executive has in this is bizarre, and I don't recall ever reading a decent argument for it.
 

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I'm 100% with you about '**** Trump,' but as far as Blago goes, he got this one right. When it comes to Libby, Kerik, Arpaio, and eventually, Stone, yeah....**** Trump.

I just think the power the executive has in this is bizarre, and I don't recall ever reading a decent argument for it.
agreed, like originalist constitutional scholars, or rapey lawyers.
 

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@Omeletpants Hey dipshit, the OP posted about a politician or are you unaware of who Blago is? Ya fucking knit wit.
 

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@Omeletpants to be fair you should’ve been banned many months ago for use of alts and trolling, but here we are. Btw, I don’t give a shit what you do. Go get your balls from the Mrs, so you can spout off more bullshit.
 
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