Bulls get C.J. Watson

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The Bulls just traded for Watson from Golden State...just a second round pick for the sign and trade...

It is a relative bargain...Orlando tried to get Watson last year. They offered a first round pick and money for Watson and talks broke down.

Watson can run the point, handle the ball and can shoot the ball well. He is aggressive and is not afraid to shoot the rock. Excelled last year when Ellis got hurt. I think this was a fantastic move...
 

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I like this move a lot. We got our backup point.
 

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Solid enough move, probably as good a backup as was available, even perhaps a bit surprising he came here rather than some other team that could offer more playing time. Maybe we'll see him together with Rose for stretches.

Just need to sign a few min guys to round out the roster now.
 

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So far the Bulls have made me happy with what they have done so far and have done what I have wanted them to do. Sign a good double double guy,sign decent shooting guards until we can maybe get better ones later on,and get a decent back up point guard whos last name isn't pargo. Give the Bulls credit,at least they are getting things done and aren't wasting any time.
 

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Shakes wrote:
Solid enough move, probably as good a backup as was available, even perhaps a bit surprising he came here rather than some other team that could offer more playing time. Maybe we'll see him together with Rose for stretches.

Just need to sign a few min guys to round out the roster now.

I think they are pretty interesting at times together, they definitely provide the most scoring punch out of anyone in our back court.
 

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im a big fan of this guy, always contributed well when he was on the floor under don nelson (it wasnt often, his lineups were always changing).

besides being a serviceable pg, hes a decent 3 pt shooter and above average pocket-picker. and we basically got him for nothing
 

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I'm very pleased with the addition we have somewhat solved our shooting woes with Korver and Watson...and Brewer is a great wing defender and slasher. All we need is another backup C, in case Asik is a bust, and we are set! Bulls management get an A+ for navigating FA imo.

Not its time for the coach and players to make it work! I'll predict at least a 50 win season as long as everyone stays relatively healthy.
 

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I say 55 wins is the benchmark figure given the roster.
 

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i'd still like a a starting 2 guard and big man.

rose, brewer, deng, boozer, and noah isn't as great as a combo as rose scorer deng(defensive wing) boozer and noah. we have legit shooting off the bench with korver but we dont have a starting 2. Also we need a big man with girth to him. just some1 to put a body on bigger centers. shaq or a pryzbilla trade sound pretty enticing.
 

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pinkizdead wrote:
i'd still like a a starting 2 guard and big man.

rose, brewer, deng, boozer, and noah isn't as great as a combo as rose scorer deng(defensive wing) boozer and noah. we have legit shooting off the bench with korver but we dont have a starting 2. Also we need a big man with girth to him. just some1 to put a body on bigger centers. shaq or a pryzbilla trade sound pretty enticing.
Brewer isn't a starting 2? Really?
 

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pinkizdead wrote:
i'd still like a a starting 2 guard and big man.

rose, brewer, deng, boozer, and noah isn't as great as a combo as rose scorer deng(defensive wing) boozer and noah. we have legit shooting off the bench with korver but we dont have a starting 2. Also we need a big man with girth to him. just some1 to put a body on bigger centers. shaq or a pryzbilla trade sound pretty enticing.

You can't fit that many guys on a team and keep everyone happy.

There's no room in the rotation for another guard. Brewer is our SG, Korver and Watson will both play some minutes there as his backup. 5 players taking all the non-garbage PG/SG/SF minutes is pretty standard.

As for bigs, it's a similar situation. Noah/Boozer/Gibson eat up the majority of the minutes, on some nights against smaller team they're probably the only three that play. There's room for Asik and/or a vet big to play minutes depending on matchups, but not someone who is going to expect 20+ minutes every night.
 

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clonetrooper264 wrote:
pinkizdead wrote:
i'd still like a a starting 2 guard and big man.

rose, brewer, deng, boozer, and noah isn't as great as a combo as rose scorer deng(defensive wing) boozer and noah. we have legit shooting off the bench with korver but we dont have a starting 2. Also we need a big man with girth to him. just some1 to put a body on bigger centers. shaq or a pryzbilla trade sound pretty enticing.
Brewer isn't a starting 2? Really?

I think he meant higher caliber. Brewer is average at best.
 

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i think brewer and deng are terrible compliments to each other. If we want to keep brewer, we need a 3 that score. i like brewer's slashing abilities, but i dont think he's a starting guard in this team. we need a scorer somewhere.

korver and watson are good additions, but we cant play korver significant minutes. he's going to kill us defensively. watson is a good back up and can play some minutes at the 2, but to be a real contender we need some1 else who can take the load of rose and boozer. deng brewer and noah aren't those guys on the offensive end. If we could get 1 big name player like a granger, j-rich, or bg; we'd be a good team.
 

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TheStig wrote:
Shakes wrote:
I say 55 wins is the benchmark figure given the roster.

I'd say 50 is more realistic.

We should be aiming for the third seed and 50 isn't going to get us that. I'd be somewhat disappointed if we only win 50.
 

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Shakes wrote:
TheStig wrote:
Shakes wrote:
I say 55 wins is the benchmark figure given the roster.

I'd say 50 is more realistic.

We should be aiming for the third seed and 50 isn't going to get us that. I'd be somewhat disappointed if we only win 50.

I wouldn't, I think its appropriate for the roster we have. If we got a legit third scoring option I'd agree with you. But I think 55+ wins is a title contender and imo we are just short. Plus we have serious injury concerns.
 

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Shakes wrote:
TheStig wrote:
Shakes wrote:
I say 55 wins is the benchmark figure given the roster.

I'd say 50 is more realistic.

We should be aiming for the third seed and 50 isn't going to get us that. I'd be somewhat disappointed if we only win 50.
How far we've come if 50 wins is a disappointment...
 

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TheStig wrote:
Shakes wrote:
TheStig wrote:
Shakes wrote:
I say 55 wins is the benchmark figure given the roster.

I'd say 50 is more realistic.

We should be aiming for the third seed and 50 isn't going to get us that. I'd be somewhat disappointed if we only win 50.

I wouldn't, I think its appropriate for the roster we have. If we got a legit third scoring option I'd agree with you. But I think 55+ wins is a title contender and imo we are just short. Plus we have serious injury concerns.

The way I look at it the Hawks won 53 games last year, I don't consider it unreasonable that we should be aiming to do better than that.

Also I think we're in a much better place to cover for injuries this year. Last year we had 4 legit players to cover the PG/SG/SF (and only 3 after we traded Salmons), this year we have 5. Last year when Noah went down Chris Richards was in the rotation, this year it's Asik and some vet big (Kurt Thomas?)

Obviously you don't want injuries and they'll affect our win total if they happen, but there's a big difference between making a rotation player play a few more minutes and having to resort to D-league guys.
 

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Shakes, I think the overall quality has increased in the east. The heat, bucks and bulls clearly got better and will be challenging the hawks. I don't think the hawks will be a top 4 seed team like they were last year.
 

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I don't think the Hawks will win 53 games again this year (they had a dream run with no injuries last year), but my point is I think this years Bulls can be good enough to win 55 games if last years Hawks could win 53.

I don't think the East is really any stronger or weaker overall. At least not to the extent it will make much of a difference to our win total. Any win we don't get against the Heat from them being stronger is a win we will get against the Cavs or Raptors.
 

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