Bulls now in Amare race

[hfritz32]

http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2010/2/17/1314754/new-twist-in-the-amare-stoudemire

New Twist In Amare Stoudemire Trade Drama Involves The Chicago Bulls
by Seth Pollack on Feb 17, 2010 2:35 PM MST in Commentary 233 comments

Based on reports from Sports 620 KTAR, the Suns are trying to get a third team involved in a trade for Amare Stoudemire. We've heard for awhile the that Suns want Andre Iguodala. Today we learned that the Suns are also interested in Luol Deng from the Chicago Bulls or possibly Kirk Hinrich.

The deal would work like this:

Suns would send Amare to Cleveland and J.J. Hickson would come to the Suns. Zydrunas Ilgauskas with his expiring $11.5m contract that has 75% of his salary already paid would be moved to that 3rd team with that player coming back to Phoenix.

The 76ers have made it pretty clear that they are not interested in taking back an expiring deal in return for Andre so that seems like a long shot to me.

The Bulls however, are very interested in getting further under the salary cap and so a deal like this would be of more value to them. All reports are they would love to dump Kirk Hinrich who's owed $9m next year and $8m in 2011/12 and would probably do this in a heart beat.

I like Kirk a lot but I don't see how he fits on the Suns team. He's a great defensive PG and would be a solid backup for Nash but for that salary why would the Suns want to add him to back court bench that already includes Barbosa and Dragic?

Luol Deng is a more interesting option despite the $51m he's owed over the next four years. He's an aggressive wing player who can both defend and put up points. At 6'9" he can also play the PF at times. 18 points and 7.4 rebounds from a guy that can shoot the three and shore up the SF for years to come...not bad.

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FG 3PT FT Rebounds Misc
G M M A Pct M A Pct M A Pct Off Def Tot Ast TO Stl Blk PF PPG
2009 - Luol Deng 52 37.9 7.1 15.1 47.1 0.4 1.1 41.1 3.4 4.4 77.4 2.1 5.3 7.4 2.1 1.9 1.0 1.0 1.8 18.1
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The Bulls however, are going to want more than just Big Z's expiring.



Perhaps the Suns make this deal with the Heat that sends Amare to Miami, Beasley and an expiring to the Bulls and the Heat's 1st round pick to Phoenix and the Raptors 1st round pick to the Bulls.

- Chicago replaces Deng with Beasley and saves about $6.8m going into the summer and leaves them with about $18m under the cap. They unload a long term contract which gives the more room for Rose and Noah when it's time to pay them and they also get to see how Beasley works out and still have cap room to go after Bosh or another free agent.

- Miami gets Amare to help try and keep Wade and they give up Beasley, expirings and two 1st round picks.

- Suns get Deng and a 1st round pick maybe some filler to make up about $1.5m.

This looks better for the Bulls but worse for the Suns than a Cleveland deal where:

- Cleveland gets Amare

- Suns get Hickson and Deng

- Bulls get Big Z and...Dudley? Clark? It would take something else to get the Bulls to give up Deng


Bottom line, the Suns are trying to find a way to get more than just Hickson and the Cavs draft pick and this will likely go down to the wire. Stay tuned!

 

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If we could unload Hinrich and Deng in the same trade for Amare, I would love that. Re-sign Amare, bring in another max free agent, and role with a core of Rose/Noah/Amare/Max Free Agent.

I also wouldn't mind if we unloaded Deng and brought in Beasley.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Wow was there a team in NBA history where the 1st and the 2nd pick of the same year played together?

 

[hfritz32]

I believe Shaq And Alonzo went 1 and 2 and played in Miami odds of this deal happening are extremely slim though

 

[Kush77]

Bullseye wrote:

Wow was there a team in NBA history where the 1st and the 2nd pick of the same year played together?

Maybe not that soon but it's happened before. Shaq and Mourning played together on the Heat. I think Leattner might have been on the team too, so that would be the 1st, 2nd and 3rd pick from 92.

I would love it if the Bulls got Stoudemire. But I'll believe it when I see it.

Did that blogger write that Deng can shoot the 3? I missed that

 

[houheffna]

If we could unload Hinrich and Deng in the same trade for Amare, I would love that. Re-sign Amare, bring in another max free agent, and role with a core of Rose/Noah/Amare/Max Free Agent.

I also wouldn't mind if we unloaded Deng and brought in Beasley.

Beasley sucks would rather have Deng if that's the case.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Yeah my "wow" was just because of that 1st and 2nd pick thing. I would prefer Deng to Beasley, too.

 

[Shakes]

houheffna wrote:

Beasley sucks would rather have Deng if that's the case.

Beasley is paid about a third of what Deng is. Given he's also younger and hence likely to get better, I don't see how you can prefer Deng to him.

 

[houheffna]

Beasley is paid about a third of what Deng is. Given he's also younger and hence likely to get better, I don't see how you can prefer Deng to him.

He doesn't really have a position, he is undersized at the 4 and does not have the skills to be a 3. He is very inconsistent and I don't think he helps the team long term the way he plays at this time.

 

[Shakes]

He's also far better than Deng was as a second year player.

 

[TheStig]

MB isn't a professional. I'd take him to get out of Deng's contract but I don't see him developing, otherwise Miami would keep him.

 

[Shakes]

Meh, even if Beasley doesn't get any better it's not like he's that much worse than Deng even now. Some guys need to be traded to get it, so who knows. Of course we do it for the financial aspect, but it could be a win talent wise too.

 

[Diddy1122]

houheffna wrote:

Beasley is paid about a third of what Deng is. Given he's also younger and hence likely to get better, I don't see how you can prefer Deng to him.

He doesn't really have a position, he is undersized at the 4 and does not have the skills to be a 3. He is very inconsistent and I don't think he helps the team long term the way he plays at this time.

Agreed he doesn't have a position but he's 10x's more talented than Deng. He can shoot from anywhere, handles the ball, & can get to the rim easily. His D is not good but his scoring ability is light years ahead of Deng. His biggest problems are maturity & work ethic. But he's still very young. If he can grow up & put in the hard work, he will be a very good player in this league.

 

[houheffna]

Agreed he doesn't have a position but he's 10x's more talented than Deng. He can shoot from anywhere, handles the ball, & can get to the rim easily. His D is not good but his scoring ability is light years ahead of Deng. His biggest problems are maturity & work ethic. But he's still very young. If he can grow up & put in the hard work, he will be a very good player in this league.

That sounds like a player we are trying to get rid of...