Bynum

[Basghetti80]

I know we have discussed this before but with the story coming out today that Phil and Bynum are not speaking that tells me if this team does not win the title they have to think about moving him. I have no idea what it would take but does something like Hinrich, Tyrus, James, #16 for Bynum and Vujacic sound about right? Am I right that the new Bynum deal is 4 years $58 million?

Rose, Vet PG
Gordon, Vujacic
Deng, Salmons
Noah, #26
Bynum, Miller


Hinrich, Fisher
Bryant, Brown
Ariza, Walton
Odom,Tyrus
Gasol,#16?

 

[dougthonus]

It's interesting, because I think a lot of teams would love Bynum, and Bynum might flourish away from Kobe, but thus far, it's hard to argue that he's worth 15 million per year. That's a lot of potential built into that contract.

I would still take him based on what he's done so far, but not without some concern. I wonder what other teams would bid for him. The market may be bare for guys with monster deals based on potential right now.

Still, for the Lakers to trade him, they need to be better after the trade. I don't see Hinrich + Tyrus + 1st making them better.

 

[Morten Jensen]

Only going by Lakers fan comments on this;

They've said they really want a PG who can fit into the triangle. Kirk would be the perfect fit. He can shoot, pass and has always had good instincts. Tyrus might actually learn something if Phil Jackson gave him the time of day, and the pick would be a sweetner.

It's still highly unrealistic, but the idea on its own is not awful. I'm sure some team will gamble and offer more, though.

 

[Bullsman24]

well but we're paying more than what we would pay any player we get not named bosh or amare. and his contract was given to him completely based on potential. even in the good times he hasn't been THAT great. he averaged like 12 and 10 last year, which really isn't worth 15 million

 

[Basghetti80]

I actually do think that deal makes the Lakers better. Hinrich upgrades them significantly at the PG spot offensively and defensively. In this playoffs it is obvious Fisher, Farmar and Brown is not enough. Hinrich as a starter with a vet like Fisher behind him is a very strong duo. Fisher just can't play 30 minutes a game anyone. Let Hinrich play the big minutes and have Fisher for 14-18 minutes a game. Tyrus gives them shot blocking, added athleticism in frontcourt to go with Gasol and probably Odom, and the #16 can be used in a few different ways if you are LA. They can add some size to the SF spot with someone like Johnson or Clark, perhaps could get a physical big like Blair or they can even get one of the young PGs and let him groom behind Kirk.

 

[Bullsman24]

i don't think they would take a PG, they have farmar to go along with fish and kirk if we make this trade

 

[dougthonus]

bullsman24 wrote:

i don't think they would take a PG, they have farmar to go along with fish and kirk if we make this trade

Farmar and Fisher suck though. The Lakers want a PG.

 

[clonetrooper264]

If the Lakers want a PG, who better than Hinrich (that's available)? Plus Bynum could be that oh so coveted scoring big man that we want. He'll get more looks here than he ever did in LA so he could get more than the 12 and 10 that he got there at some point. Believe me, Hinrich is a very desirable person to a lot of teams so I can see LA wanting him in a trade. But if we do end up with Bynum, I hope he reaches his potential.

 

[badboy]

I was trying to bring this up to you guys before. This would be contingent on them losing right now to the Nuggets though. I think something can be built based on Hinrich and Bynum. I'm sure they would want future picks too probably not this draft though as it is very weak. Also I doubt they give us Vujacic as he has been good for them. Also some of you might not like this but they would probably ask for Noah not Tyrus.

Hinrich and Noah + 1st pick
for
Bynum

That works as is and should be more than fair for us. Then Building around Rose and Bynum should be a very good start for a possible future dynasty.

 

[TheStig]

dougthonus wrote:

It's interesting, because I think a lot of teams would love Bynum, and Bynum might flourish away from Kobe, but thus far, it's hard to argue that he's worth 15 million per year. That's a lot of potential built into that contract.

I would still take him based on what he's done so far, but not without some concern. I wonder what other teams would bid for him. The market may be bare for guys with monster deals based on potential right now.

Still, for the Lakers to trade him, they need to be better after the trade. I don't see Hinrich + Tyrus + 1st making them better.

Idk that I would want him but his contract really isn't that bad. It only gets to 15mill in the last guaranteed year and averages under 14 mill. The last year is a team option so we would only really be on the hook for three years, the same as kirks deal. Its a long term deal in respect to 2010 but its rare to get a shot at a young center that does everything we need. Outside of Dwight Howard he is probably the best young center.

 

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badboy wrote:

I was trying to bring this up to you guys before. This would be contingent on them losing right now to the Nuggets though. I think something can be built based on Hinrich and Bynum. I'm sure they would want future picks too probably not this draft though as it is very weak. Also I doubt they give us Vujacic as he has been good for them. Also some of you might not like this but they would probably ask for Noah not Tyrus.

Hinrich and Noah + 1st pick
for
Bynum

That works as is and should be more than fair for us. Then Building around Rose and Bynum should be a very good start for a possible future dynasty.

I agree with this. I think Hinrich + Noah + 1st pick.

The problem right now, is a draft day trade is near impossible because Bynum is a poison pill player. After that, it should be a lot easier with Bynum just being BYC.

It's an interesting prospect. He has a good frame, and has had decent production. But looking at some case studies, that is Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry, both players are immovable right now. (Although I suspect under a normal economy, Chandler would have been movable).

I'd still rather have Amare Stoudemire.

 

[pinkizdead]

bynum might be injury prone. whose our back up brad miller? he cant play for more than 30 minutes a gain. we'd need another back up for when bynum goes out.

 

[Dpauley23]

The Lakers aren't good enough to win title and Kobe knows it. There not going to get better by trading without giving up major piece because they don't have anything to offer. They might look into this they resign Odom and Kobe doesn't refuse it. All though I think you will have to swap Timmy Thomas for one of Lakers bad contracts

 

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Dpauley23 wrote:

The Lakers aren't good enough to win title and Kobe knows it. There not going to get better by trading without giving up major piece because they don't have anything to offer. They might look into this they resign Odom and Kobe doesn't refuse it. All though I think you will have to swap Timmy Thomas for one of Lakers bad contracts

I think if they were to give Ron Artest the full MLE and let Odom walk, they would be able to win it all.

 

[Dpauley23]

They could if those two could ever make through full week being with each other

 

[Manic Devourer]

dougthonus wrote:

It's interesting, because I think a lot of teams would love Bynum, and Bynum might flourish away from Kobe, but thus far, it's hard to argue that he's worth 15 million per year. That's a lot of potential built into that contract.

On the other side of the coin, he could fail away from Kobe. Remember it was Kobe being critical of him which somewhat motivated him to work a lot harder in the off season on his game and his body which enabled him to have his mini-break out season.

He could be the type of guy that needs someone to push him and motivate him, and make him the man or one of the main men on a young team, i think he could slack off and let up on his game.

But being a legit low post big man, I'd definitely take the gamble to obtain him.

 

[Shakes]

Of course the injuries and motivation questions make it a gamble, but how often does a 21 year old center who has a proven NBA offensive game become available? I think it's a gamble many teams would take.