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Similar to the Bears mock draft thread...I'mma try to keep this relatively updated w/ the Bulls selections up until the draft.

NBADraft.Net UPDATED
Pick #28: Kyle Singler - SF - Duke
Pick #30: Norris Cole - PG - Cleveland State

MyNBADraft.Com UPDATED
Pick #28: Justin Harper - PF - Richmond
Pick #30: Charles Jenkins - PG/SG - Hofstra

Yahoo! Sports UPDATED
Pick #28: Justin Harper - PF - Richmond
Pick #30: Travis Leslie - SG - Georgia

The Hoop Doctors UPDATED
Pick #28: Shelvin Mack - PG - Butler
Pick #30: Trey Thompkins - PF - Georgia

Sports Tears In Our Beers
Pick #28: Nolan Smith - PG/SG - Duke
Pick #30: Jeremy Tyler - C - Asia

ESPN's Chad Ford
Pick #28: Justin Harper - PF - Richmond
Pick #30: Tyler Honeycutt - G/F - UCLA

HoopsWorld.Com UPDATED
Pick #28: Shelvin Mack - PG - Butler
Pick #30: Andrew Goudelock - PG - College of Charleston


For a link of all the recruits bios, click here.
 
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I'll add more later I'm sure....any requests for specific mocks...leave 'em here and I'll grab 'em in a few.
 

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I would LOVE Shelvin Mack. He played basketball in Lexington and he was a stud. I played a few pick-up games with him a couple years ago. He's a good player and an even better guy.
 

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Another guard from Kansas, another player from Duke :shifty:
 

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Another guard from Kansas, another player from Duke :shifty:

Bulls have made a habit of drafting from higher-profile schools the last 5-6 years, imo.

A guy I wouldn't hate (and I can't believe I'm saying this) is DeAndre Liggins from UK. I'm not a UK fan at all...but if we picked up Nolan Smith to play back-up 1/2, and Liggins to give Deng 10 min. a night off (Liggins D is superb) I'd be happy.
 

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Bulls have made a habit of drafting from higher-profile schools the last 5-6 years, imo.

A guy I wouldn't hate (and I can't believe I'm saying this) is DeAndre Liggins from UK. I'm not a UK fan at all...but if we picked up Nolan Smith to play back-up 1/2, and Liggins to give Deng 10 min. a night off (Liggins D is superb) I'd be happy.

Liggins is a solid shutdown defender. I watched him for three years here in Lexington. He won't give much offensively, but he's as good as they come on the defensive end of the court.
 

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Not sure why the Bulls would take Mack, I don't see them playing (or paying) 3 PGs.
 

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Liggins is a solid shutdown defender. I watched him for three years here in Lexington. He won't give much offensively, but he's as good as they come on the defensive end of the court.

he can hit a spot-up 3 tho...shot nearly 40% from 3 last season...
 

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he can hit a spot-up 3 tho...shot nearly 40% from 3 last season...

Sounds like Bogans. So hard to find talent late that will actually help the Bulls beat Miami.
 

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He can, but he didn't take many. That stat is a little flawed. Still I think with the right coaching, his shot could get better.

Yeah, I'll agree w/ that. and Fisch, his game is similar to Bogans, but he's easily tall enough to guard the 3...while Bogans obviously isn't. Teams would seriously struggle to score 65-70 against Brewer, Bogans, Liggins, Taj, Jo...and ya know, Deng and Asik can play some D, too
 

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anybody got ESPN insider and care to let me know who they have the Bulls taking?
 

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anybody got ESPN insider and care to let me know who they have the Bulls taking?

With the June 13 date to withdraw from the NBA draft and the adidas Eurocamp behind us, we are now just a week from when the selections will be made.

The draft remains fluid at this point. Teams are still engaged in the workout process and are beginning to narrow down their lists, but the final draft order is still far from certain.

"Good luck with your mock draft," one GM said to me as he was departing Treviso, Italy. "I'll be interested in seeing who we are taking since I still don't know."

Here's our most informed take, after talking to numerous NBA team sources, about how the draft might play out June 23.



1. Cleveland
(via L.A. Clippers)


Kyrie Irving
Position: PG
Height: 6-foot-4
Weight: 191 pounds
Age: 19
School: Duke

Analysis: There have been a lot of interesting theories floating around the past week about why Cleveland won't be taking Irving No. 1. I still don't buy it. The Cavs have been shopping Baron Davis and Ramon Sessions hard in the past week.

Williams is still in the picture here at No. 1 in part because the Cavs feel they could get a very good point guard (either Brandon Knight or Kemba Walker) at No. 4 ... but sources continue to stress that it's Irving's to lose.


2. Minnesota


Derrick Williams
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 249
Age: 20
School: Arizona

Analysis: Still hearing that the Wolves are hoping they can get a great offer for the No. 2 pick. But if they don't they'll just take Williams and work out the rest this summer via trades. If they get Williams, Michael Beasley could be gone by the time next season starts.


3. Utah
(via New Jersey)


Brandon Knight
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 177
Age: 19
School: Kentucky

Analysis: Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker are both possibilities at guard. Enes Kanter, Jonas Valanciunas and Jan Vesely will also get a look here. The Jazz have a huge workout on June 15 when Walker and Jimmer Fredette are expected to work out for them.

Knight will come in at some point too, though he still seems to be refusing to work out with Walker or Fredette. While it's still possible the Jazz go big with this pick and select either a player like Kanter, Valanciunas or Vesely -- they're likely to try to select a franchise point guard if either Knight or Walker blows them away. If Fredette wins the battle on the 15th ... that could push the Jazz to go big here and try to nab Fredette with the 12th pick.


4. Cleveland


Jonas Valanciunas
Position: C
Height: 6-10
Weight: 230
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania

Analysis: I've had Kanter in this position since Mock Draft 1.0, but it's time to make the biggest change I've made to our board. From what I gather, the Cavs appear to be cooling a bit on Kanter and warming to Valanciunas.

Vesely and Leonard are in the picture too and would both be good fits. But this may be the Cavs' only chance to draft a legit 7-foot center. Valanciunas is raw, but he has big upside.




5. Toronto


Jan Vesely
Position: PF
Height: 6-11
Weight: 240
Age: 21
Country: Czech Republic

Analysis: Bryan Colangelo could go a number of directions here. He has strong interest in both Brandon Knight and Kemba Walker. If Knight is on the board, I think he doesn't get past here. If just Walker is here, the question for Colangelo is what to do with Leandro Barbosa and Jerryd Bayless. Both players are similar to Walker.

The Raptors could go with an international player such as Kanter, Valanciunas, Vesely or Bismack Biyombo. Of the four, sources say, Vesely is the highest on their board.




6. Washington


Enes Kanter
Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 260
Age: 19
Country: Turkey

Analysis: The Wizards know they aren't taking a point guard -- not with John Wall in the fold. So the questions are: Who's the best player on the board and what do they need? The Wizards are very high on Vesely, but in this mock he's off the board.

Kawhi Leonard is an option. He brings toughness, defense and versatility to a team that can use all three attributes. But the Wizards are really looking for rebounding help up front and Kanter is a very good fit here. He's tough, he isn't afraid to be physical and he has good size. Tristan Thompson is a dark horse here as well.




7. Sacramento


Kawhi Leonard
Position: SF
Height: 6-7
Weight: 228
Age: 19
School: San Diego State

Analysis: If the draft plays out this way, the Kings could go in three different directions. They could go with Leonard, who would help solve a major need at small forward or they could choose between Walker and Fredette at the point. We've had Walker in this position for weeks, but mostly because we've had Leonard off the board.

Fredette, as we've been writing for the past two weeks, is the dark horse here. The Maloof brothers love him and he's probably a better fit in the Kings' backcourt than Walker. If Leonard is off the board, Fredette could be the pick.




8. Detroit


Kemba Walker
Position: PG
Height: 6-1
Weight: 184
Age: 21
School: UConn

Analysis: For the past few weeks, we've had the Pistons taking Valanciunas, but with Valanciunas now going No. 4, it looks like the Pistons will be down to three prospects: Kemba Walker, Tristan Thompson and Bismack Biyombo.

Walker is the safe pick, though he doesn't actually fill a major need. Thompson has upside. And, from what I gather, the team is still very high on Biyombo. The Pistons know how to develop a defensive stopper like him and I'm told their trip to Spain to see him went well.

Still, at the end of the day, I think the Pistons draft the best player available, Walker, and look at moving Rodney Stuckey to the 2.



9. Charlotte


Marcus Morris
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Kansas

Analysis: The Bobcats haven't been the greatest drafters the past few years. Michael Jordan is determined to change that. The thinking in Charlotte is to not take big risks. To go with a proven product. To aim at the double instead of the home run.

Morris, with his versatility, toughness and Kansas pedigree is a very good option. Klay Thompson, Chris Singleton and Jordan Hamilton are all in the mix as well.




10. Milwaukee


Klay Thompson
Position: PG
Height: 6-7
Weight: 206
Age: 21
School: Washington St.

Analysis: I think this pick likely comes down to Thompson and Alec Burks. They play the same position, but have different strengths. Thompson is a shooter, Burks is a slasher.

With the Bucks telling me pretty strongly that they're holding on to Brandon Jennings as their point guard, and with the team making a strong drive to get back in the playoffs, I think Thompson is a better fit.




11. Golden State


Bismack Biyombo
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 243
Age: 18
Country: Congo

Analysis: Jerry West is a fan of Klay Thompson and would likely select him if he's still on the board. But if he and Marcus Morris are off the board, the Warriors could be the team that takes a chance on Biyombo. The team desperately needs to improve its defense, shot-blocking and rebounding. Biyombo has the tools to do that right away.





12. Utah


Chris Singleton
Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 230
Age: 21
School: Florida State

Analysis: We've had Singleton here for weeks and we're not moving him unless the Jazz draft a forward with the No. 3 pick. With Andrei Kirilenko heading into free agency, the Jazz are going to want a defensive stopper who can guard multiple positions.

Tristan Thompson, Jimmer Fredette and Alec Burks are all possibilities here too.




13. Phoenix


Alec Burks
Position: SG
Height: 6-6
Weight: 193
Age: 19
School: Colorado

Analysis: The Suns are in that awkward spot between pushing for the playoffs and rebuilding. Lon Babby says the team will be emphasizing defense and Tristan Thompson could be a solid direction to go.

But if Burks is on the board, he may be very hard to pass up on. He has star potential if he ever learns how to shoot. With Vince Carter likely out of the picture in Phoenix, Burks also fits a need.





14. Houston


Nikola Vucevic
Position: C
Height: 7-0
Weight: 260
Age: 20
School: USC

Analysis: Could Vucevic really go this high? That's the word among a number of NBA GMs who are raving about his workouts. Some have argued that the differences between him and Enes Kanter are very slim.

With the Rockets in desperate need of some size in the paint, Vucevic could be the answer. He's not the world's greatest athlete, but he is skilled, has an NBA body and is ready to play now.





15. Indiana


Jimmer Fredette
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 196
Age: 22
School: Brigham Young

Analysis: The Pacers could go a number of different ways here, but for the third straight week I think Fredette will be their man. There's a good chance that Jimmer is off the board when they draft, but if he's here, he'll be very hard to pass up.

Tristan Thompson and Markieff Morris are all also serious options here as well if both are still on the board.





16. Philadelphia


Tristan Thompson
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 20
School: Texas

Analysis: Thompson could go as high as No. 5 or No. 6. But he also could slide. Just about every team I spoke to likes him a lot, but I've yet to find the team that's fallen in love. I doubt he slips further than this though. The Sixers need more size, toughness and rebounding. Thompson provides all three. Jordan Hamilton and Markieff Morris are also options here.





17. New York


Marshon Brooks
Position: SG
Height: 6-5
Weight: 195
Age: 22
School: Providence

Analysis: The Knicks are really hoping that either Klay Thompson or Jimmer Fredette fall to them. But if they don't, watch out for Brooks. He had a great workout in New York, has the sort of swagger that Knicks guards need and the Knicks were wowed by his ability to pass the ball too.

Brooks, at 22, doesn't have the upside of a guy like Josh Selby, but his size advantage is big and so is his ability to step in and play right away.





18. Washington
(via Atlanta)


Jordan Hamilton
Position: SF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 229
Age: 20
School: Texas

Analysis: Hamilton is often compared to Wizards small forward Rashard Lewis. Both are big men with sweet strokes that can catch fire. But with Lewis on the back end of his career and the Wizards actively shopping him, I don't think the team will shy away from adding another scorer to put around John Wall.





19. Charlotte
(via New Orleans)


Markieff Morris
Position: PF/C
Height: 6-9
Weight: 241
Age: 21
School: Kansas

Analysis: The Bobcats have needs just about everywhere and Morris should be a good fit. He's strong, he's defensive minded, he rebounds and he blocks shots. He's a bit undersized to play the 5, but his ability to stretch the floor will be welcomed.





20. Minnesota
(via Memphis)


Donatas Motiejunas
Position: PF
Height: 7-0
Weight: 220
Age: 19
Country: Lithuania

Analysis: The Wolves have the best group of international scouts in the NBA and if Motiejunas falls this far, I think they'd snap him up here. He's an aggressive scorer and has size -- two things the Wolves could use in the post.

Marshon Brooks, Kenneth Faried, Nikola Mirotic and Charles Jenkins are also possibilities.





21. Portland


Kenneth Faried
Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 225
Age: 21
School: Morehead State

Analysis: The Blazers fell in love with Faried last year before he withdrew from the draft. If they are fortunate enough to get a second chance at him this year, they'll grab him. His relentlessness on the boards is a nice complement to LaMarcus Aldridge's more offensive-minded style.

Markieff Morris, Tobias Harris, Darius Morris, Reggie Jackson are other players to watch.





22. Denver


Tobias Harris
Position: PF
Height: 6-8
Weight: 223
Age: 18
School: Tennessee

Analysis: Harris may be one of the more underrated players in the draft. He can play both the 3 and 4, and he has a very high basketball IQ and an NBA body. Harris doesn't do any one thing at an elite level, but he is one of the most well-rounded players in the draft.

Charles Jenkins, Iman Shumpert and Tyler Honeycutt are other possibilities here.





23. Houston
(via Orlando)


Darius Morris
Position: PG
Height: 6-4
Weight: 190
Age: 20
School: Michigan

Analysis: We have the Rockets going big with pick No. 14 and we have them going big again at No. 23. Morris is a different kind of big. He's a point guard who towers over the competition. If he were a better shooter he'd be going much, much higher in the draft. But at this point he's a steal.





24. Oklahoma City


Nikola Mirotic
Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 226
Age: 21
Country: Serbia

Analysis: Sam Presti is an opportunist, and he is patient -- two critical traits in a great GM. Mirotic, based on talent, is a lottery pick. But a massive buyout means he won't be playing in the NBA anytime soon. Mirotic shocked NBA teams by deciding to stay in the draft.

It will likely take him three years to actually make it to the NBA, but given the talent level, the Thunder could be getting a major steal down the road. If Mirotic is off the board, Davis Bertans and Bogan Bogdanovic are possibilities.




25. Boston


Jeremy Tyler
Position: C
Height: 6-11
Weight: 263
Age: 19
Team: Tokyo Apache

Analysis: The Celtics are going to start rebuilding soon and they need to hit a home run again the same way they did with Rajon Rondo. Tyler could be that guy. If he had played in college, he might have had a chance to be a top-10 pick with his talent.

He's long, athletic and raw, but if he succeeds, he could be a major pickup for the Celtics. JaJuan Johnson, Justin Harper and Jon Leuer are also possibilities.





26. Dallas


Josh Selby
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 195
Age: 20
School: Kansas

Analysis: The Mavs have won the title, but now it's time to begin thinking about the future. While the Mavs may have one more long run in those veteran legs, it's unlikely. Selby, like Tyler, could be a home run if he's developed right. His ability to get to the basket is really unmatched.





27. New Jersey
(via L.A. Lakers)


Reggie Jackson
Position: PG
Height: 6-3
Weight: 208
Age: 21
School: Boston College

Analysis: Yes, the Nets have Deron Williams. But he's not a sure thing to stay in New Jersey after next season. Even if he does, Jackson would be a terrific backup and a player who could play off the ball in certain situations.

Had he not had a knee injury when the predraft process began, he could've gone much higher. He's great value here. Justin Harper, Tyler Honeycutt, JaJuan Johnson and Jeremy Tyler are all options here too.





28. Chicago
(via Miami)


Justin Harper
Position: PF
Height: 6-9
Weight: 228
Age: 21
School: Richmond

Analysis: Harper was one of the best stretch 4s in college basketball last season. He also has size and is a pretty good athlete. The Bulls need perimeter shooting and Harper should be able to give them some.

Charles Jenkins, Tyler Honeycutt and Jeremy Tyler are also possibilities.






29. San Antonio


Davis Bertans
Position: SF
Height: 6-10
Weight: 210
Age: 18
Country: Latvia

Analysis: The Spurs have done a good job over the years of finding young international players and stashing them overseas for a few years until they're ready.

Bertans showed he can be a big-time shooter at the Nike Hoop Summit and adidas Eurocamp. At 18, he's worth taking a flier on and seeing what he can accomplish after another year or two in Europe.





30. Chicago


Tyler Honeycutt
Position: G/F
Height: 6-8
Weight: 188
Age: 20
School: UCLA

Analysis: The Bulls need scorers in their backcourt and ultimately need to find a backup for Derrick Rose at point guard. Honeycutt wasn't a dominating scorer in college, but his versatility should make him a nice fit in Chicago.

Next Five In: JaJuan Johnson, F, Purdue; Charles Jenkins, G, Hofstra; Nolan Smith, G, Duke; Jordan Williams, F/C, Maryland; Chandler Parsons, F, Florida
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Every time I put up a new mock draft (Mock Draft 5.0 came out Wednesday), I get a lot of feedback from readers who wonder how I put it together and how it differs from the Top 100. This is how it works: Both pieces are reported pieces. In other words, I talk with NBA scouts and executives to get a sense of:



A. Which teams like which players (mock draft).



B. What the consensus is among all 30 NBA teams about who the best players in the draft are (Top 100).



I use the word "consensus" lightly. Often, even GMs and scouts employed by the same team can't agree on rankings of players.



I had a very interesting conversation in Treviso, Italy, last week with a number of NBA executives and scouts about just how subjective this process is, how many backroom fights go on, and how, from time to time, teams literally don't make up their minds until they are on the clock. They gave me a lot of (off the record) funny examples. The point was that every team does things a little differently, and even within a team, there often isn't much consensus.



Obviously, both the mock draft and Top 100 are imperfect because the draft is an inexact science. NBA teams do more than watch prospects play games. They work out players, give them psychological tests, do background checks and conduct personal interviews. All of this factors into the process and can change opinions.



Factor in the ranking wars with another age-old debate -- do you draft for need or for the best player available? -- and it's no surprise the draft can be so volatile. Many teams take into account holes at certain positions (i.e., the team has no small forward) or coaching/system preferences (i.e., the Knicks draft players who can fit into coach Mike D'Antoni's system) when making their decisions.



To make sense of disparate rankings and debates over team needs, the past few years I've chronicled a draft ranking system employed by several teams that have been very successful in the draft, what I call a tier system. Instead of developing an exact order from one to 60 of the best players in the draft, these teams group players, based on overall talent, into tiers. Then, the teams rank the players in each tier based on team need.



This system allows teams to draft not only the best player available, but also the player who best fits a team's individual needs.



So what do the tiers look like this year? After talking to several GMs and scouts whose teams employ this system, I put together these tiers. (Because the teams do not want to divulge their draft rankings publicly, the teams will remain anonymous.)



Players are listed alphabetically in each tier.






Tier 1

None

Note: This category is usually reserved for guys who are surefire All-Stars/franchise players. Last year, John Wall was the only guy in this tier. In 2009, Blake Griffin was the guy here. This year, Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams are at the top of the draft, but neither guy is projected as a franchise player or a surefire All-Star.





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Tier 2
Kyrie Irving (draft range: 1 to 2)
Derrick Williams (1 to 3)



Note: Irving and Williams are the two top players on the boards of the teams I spoke with, regardless of team needs. Both players are projected to be starters and potential All-Stars. While it looks like Irving has the best shot of going No. 1, there's still an outside chance it could be Williams.





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Tier 3

Enes Kanter (2 to 6)
Brandon Knight (3 to 7)
Kawhi Leonard (5 to 9)
Jonas Valanciunas (3 to 8)
Jan Vesely (3 to 10)
Kemba Walker (3 to 9)



Note: This is a larger-than-usual Tier 3, which says something about how NBA GMs are seeing this draft. They believe the six players above all have NBA All-Star potential, but all six have significant weaknesses that could keep them from living up to it. All six players were consensus Top 10 picks. Leonard and Walker barely squeaked into this tier. A number of teams have them in Tier 4. Some teams believe Knight, Kanter and Valanciunas could all end up as Tier 2, or even Tier 1, players over time.





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Tier 4

Bismack Biyombo (8 to 20)
Alec Burks (10 to 17)
Jimmer Fredette (7 to 15)
Marcus Morris (9 to 15)
Chris Singleton (10 to 18)
Klay Thompson (9 to 17)
Tristan Thompson (6 to 16)



Note: This is a smaller-than-usual tier and it was difficult to find a real consensus here. Teams are saying that these seven players will likely fill out the rest of the lottery. This is where the real depth of the draft is. Biyombo, Burks, Singleton and both Thompsons each got one or two Tier 5 votes. Since we've listed 15 players, one of these eight will likely slip out of the lottery.





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Tier 5

Davis Bertans (17-29)
Marshon Brooks (13-20)
Kenneth Faried (13-21)
Jordan Hamilton (11-19)
Tobias Harris (14-22)
Tyler Honeycutt (18-30)
Reggie Jackson (17-31)
Nikola Mirotic (20-30)
Darius Morris (21-35)
Markieff Morris (13-19)
Donatas Motiejunas (12-20)
Josh Selby (17-28)
Nikola Vucevic (14-21)



Note: These players look like locks for the first round, but most likely won't make the lottery. A few teams had Brooks, Harris, Markieff Morris and Vucevic in Tier 4, but not quite enough for them to make the cut; they were very close, though. Bertans, Honeycutt, Jackson, Mirotic and Darius Morris were borderline picks here. Every one of these players dropped out of the top 30 on at least one NBA team's draft board.





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Tier 6 (All First-Round Bubble)

Bojan Bogdanovic
Jimmy Butler
Norris Cole
Justin Harper
Charles Jenkins
JaJuan Johnson
Malcolm Lee
Travis Leslie
Jon Leuer Shelvin Mack
Chandler Parsons
Kyle Singler
Iman Shumpert
Nolan Smith
Trey Thompkins
Jeremy Tyler
Jordan Williams

Note: This is what I would call the first-round bubble group, and this is where the consensus started to break down. A few teams had Harper, Jenkins and Tyler in Tier 5, but many did not. Overall, there are just two spaces left in the first round ... so most of the players on this list are falling to the second round.




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So how does the tier system work?


A team ranks players in each tier according to team need. So, in Tier 4, if point guard is the biggest need, a player like Fredette is ranked No. 1. If shooting guard is the biggest need, Alec Burks or Klay Thompson is ranked No. 1.



The rules are pretty simple. A team always drafts its highest-ranked player in a given tier. Also, a team never takes a player from a lower tier if one from a higher tier is available. So, for example, the Bucks are drafting No. 10 (Tier 4 territory); if Kawhi Leonard (a Tier 3 player) is on the board, they take him regardless of positional need. If the Bucks have Klay Thompson ranked No. 1 in Tier 4, they still take Leonard, even though shooting guard is a more pressing need.



This system protects teams from overreaching based on team need. The Bucks won't pass on a clearly superior player like Leonard to fill a need with Thompson. However, the system also protects a team from passing on a player who fits a need just because he might be ranked one or two spots lower overall.



Last year, I gave you my all-time favorite historical example from the Atlanta Hawks. Because of team positional needs, former GM Billy Knight took Marvin Williams ahead of Chris Paul and Deron Williams in 2005, and Shelden Williams ahead of guards such as Brandon Roy and Rajon Rondo in 2006.



Here's another one: The Raptors selected Rafael Araujo with the eighth pick in the 2004 NBA draft because they needed a center desperately. Most teams had Araujo as a Tier 4 player, but the Raptors selected him in a Tier 2 category because there were no centers available in their tier.



If the Raptors had employed a tier system, they would have ranked inside the tier based on team need and fit, rather than just ranking the prospects from 1-30.



In that case, the Raptors likely would have grabbed a player like Andre Iguodala instead.



Like every draft system, the tier system isn't perfect. But the teams that run it have found success with it. It has allowed them to get help through the draft without overreaching. Compared to traditional top-30 lists or mock drafts, it seems like a much more precise tool of gauging which players a team should draft.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft...e=Tiers-110616
 

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Reggie Jackson is gonna be the steal of the draft IMO

I have him rated in the top 10 on my big board very underrated


rumor has it he has a promise he canceled his workouts all of them that included the Bulls and the Pacers.

Rumor has it that the TBlazers will take him at #21 if it wasn't for his injury he would of most likley gone in the late lottery.
 
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Personally, I'd want to trade up for Marshon Brooks if we're going to try to draft someone. If we stay pat with the picks, I personally like Selby (who will probably be gone by then, but I saw a couple mocks with him falling to us) and Nolan Smith (makes Watson a trade piece without losing a backup PG). Idk how the Bulls FO feels about a stretch 4, but to me, it doesn't really seem to fit with us already having Noah, Boozer, Gibson, and Asik up front, but perhaps if a draft day trade occurs with one of them I guess I can see that happening.
 

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Personally, I'd want to trade up for Marshon Brooks if we're going to try to draft someone. If we stay pat with the picks, I personally like Selby (who will probably be gone by then, but I saw a couple mocks with him falling to us) and Nolan Smith (makes Watson a trade piece without losing a backup PG). Idk how the Bulls FO feels about a stretch 4, but to me, it doesn't really seem to fit with us already having Noah, Boozer, Gibson, and Asik up front, but perhaps if a draft day trade occurs with one of them I guess I can see that happening.

You don't have the assets to trade up and get him IMO. It is a very strong possibility he will be gone at #10. If he makes it to #15 it seems like the Pacers will draft him.
 

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You don't have the assets to trade up and get him IMO. It is a very strong possibility he will be gone at #10. If he makes it to #15 it seems like the Pacers will draft him.

I should've said, provided he's still there at like...20. xD He won't be. He might sneak up to the lottery.
 

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