Cincy view on an AJ McCarron trade

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The Bears are quietly one of the better trade suitors for AJ McCarron.
by Jason Marcum@marcum89 Feb 22, 2017, 9:00am EST
Aaron Doster-USA TODAY Sports

It looks like the Bears will be in the market for a quarterback this offseason.
According to NFL.com’s Jeff Darlington, Chicago is actively pursuing a trade to send incumbent starter Jay Cutler to a new team.

I’m told by league sources Bears have now begun actively shopping Cutler, which isn’t surprising, but it does require some context:
— Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) February 21, 2017
While it makes sense to try to trade Cutler, an active pursuit to unload him is formal beginning of the end. Relationship all but over now.
— Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) February 21, 2017

This all but assures Cutler of being with a new team next season, and it leaves the Bears in desperate need of a quarterback for next season. The question is, how will they get said quarterback?

Spending the No. 3 pick in April’s NFL Draft on one seems to be in play, but there’s no certainty that a quarterback worthy of that pick will be on the board. The 49ers, who pick at No. 2, are strongly interested in taking a quarterback there, and there’s already a lot of debate as to whether there’s any passer in this draft worthy of a top-five pick, let alone two of them.

Mayock: In this particular year I don't think any one of these guys [QBs in the draft] are top 10 picks or even day one starters. #NFLDraft
— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) February 21, 2017
There’s also the fact that head coach John Fox is on the hot seat next season after back-to-back losing seasons, so it’s unlikely he wants to risk his job on a rookie. That’s why trading for an experienced quarterback is what Chicago should pursue this offseason, and it just so happens the Bengals have one.

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This could actually be the perfect trade fit for the Bengals, who are looking to land a first-round pick for McCarron, but certainly won’t land the No. 3 pick for him. Perhaps the Bears would be willing to take McCarron and the No. 9 pick to allow Cincinnati to move to the No. 3 pick, but even that six-spot jump may be too much for the Bears to complete the deal.

It’s more likely Chicago would be willing to deal their second-round pick, which comes at No. 36, for a guy like McCarron. Truth is, those first couple of second-round selections are essentially first-round picks, and that’s probably the best the Bengals can hope for in dealing McCarron.
They’ll try to get a first, but it’s more likely a high second-round choice is the best offer they’ll get. Chicago is one of the few teams that has an early second round pick, a need at quarterback and no certainty they’ll take one in the first round.

The question is, will the Bengals settle on a high second-round pick in exchange for McCarron? Even that’s a massive upgrade over the fifth-round selection the Bengals spent on him in the 2014 NFL Draft.

It’s not like the Patriots and Jimmy Garoppolo, a former second-round pick in that same draft. Of course they want a first-round pick for a guy they invested a high pick on, so he will likely be dealt for a first rounder, if he’s traded.

The Bengals can’t get greedy with McCarron if they want to get a good return on investment. Either the team takes something like a high second-round choice for him, gets lucky with a crazy trade, or the Bengals may wind up keeping him on the roster until he becomes a restricted free agent in 2018.
Keep an eye on the Bears’ quarterback search, as is would surely make sense for McCarron to be in consideration.
 

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TOLD YOU 2nd round pick MINIMUM, So is he better then the top five prospects?
 

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Bears could be AJ McCarron suitor as they look to trade Jay Cutler
The Bears are quietly one of the better trade suitors for AJ McCarron.
by Jason Marcum@marcum89 Feb 22, 2017, 9:00am EST
Aaron Doster-USA TODAY Sports

It looks like the Bears will be in the market for a quarterback this offseason.
According to NFL.com’s Jeff Darlington, Chicago is actively pursuing a trade to send incumbent starter Jay Cutler to a new team.

I’m told by league sources Bears have now begun actively shopping Cutler, which isn’t surprising, but it does require some context:
— Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) February 21, 2017
While it makes sense to try to trade Cutler, an active pursuit to unload him is formal beginning of the end. Relationship all but over now.
— Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) February 21, 2017

This all but assures Cutler of being with a new team next season, and it leaves the Bears in desperate need of a quarterback for next season. The question is, how will they get said quarterback?

Spending the No. 3 pick in April’s NFL Draft on one seems to be in play, but there’s no certainty that a quarterback worthy of that pick will be on the board. The 49ers, who pick at No. 2, are strongly interested in taking a quarterback there, and there’s already a lot of debate as to whether there’s any passer in this draft worthy of a top-five pick, let alone two of them.

Mayock: In this particular year I don't think any one of these guys [QBs in the draft] are top 10 picks or even day one starters. #NFLDraft
— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) February 21, 2017
There’s also the fact that head coach John Fox is on the hot seat next season after back-to-back losing seasons, so it’s unlikely he wants to risk his job on a rookie. That’s why trading for an experienced quarterback is what Chicago should pursue this offseason, and it just so happens the Bengals have one.

Related
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3 ways Bengals could instantly improve in 2017
NFL execs think AJ McCarron is best QB trade target

This could actually be the perfect trade fit for the Bengals, who are looking to land a first-round pick for McCarron, but certainly won’t land the No. 3 pick for him. Perhaps the Bears would be willing to take McCarron and the No. 9 pick to allow Cincinnati to move to the No. 3 pick, but even that six-spot jump may be too much for the Bears to complete the deal.

It’s more likely Chicago would be willing to deal their second-round pick, which comes at No. 36, for a guy like McCarron. Truth is, those first couple of second-round selections are essentially first-round picks, and that’s probably the best the Bengals can hope for in dealing McCarron.
They’ll try to get a first, but it’s more likely a high second-round choice is the best offer they’ll get. Chicago is one of the few teams that has an early second round pick, a need at quarterback and no certainty they’ll take one in the first round.

The question is, will the Bengals settle on a high second-round pick in exchange for McCarron? Even that’s a massive upgrade over the fifth-round selection the Bengals spent on him in the 2014 NFL Draft.

It’s not like the Patriots and Jimmy Garoppolo, a former second-round pick in that same draft. Of course they want a first-round pick for a guy they invested a high pick on, so he will likely be dealt for a first rounder, if he’s traded.

The Bengals can’t get greedy with McCarron if they want to get a good return on investment. Either the team takes something like a high second-round choice for him, gets lucky with a crazy trade, or the Bengals may wind up keeping him on the roster until he becomes a restricted free agent in 2018.
Keep an eye on the Bears’ quarterback search, as is would surely make sense for McCarron to be in consideration.

LMFAO........

If this happens, Pace deserves to be assassinated.
 

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In reality, its probably just the 4th and 5th QB prospect whoever occupies those positions today.

Okay so lets says it is Mahomes or Watson. Or Kizer and Trubiskey? If we give up our 2nd round pick and one of thoses guys are there at pick 36 holy fucking shit storm!!
 

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Pace also knows that he will be canned if he reaches for a QB who he has ranked in the lower half of the first round who isn't ready and turns into a Jarod Goff situation

NOt true, he would be in a lot more heat trading high picks for McTalentless
 

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Okay so lets says it is Mahomes or Watson. Or Kizer and Trubiskey? If we give up our 2nd round pick and one of thoses guys are there at pick 36 holy fucking shit storm!!

One of those guys will be there.
 

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Would anyone consider moving back to 9 for McCarron and say their 4th?

Are there 9 blue chippers in this draft without the QB's?

I think more picks are important for us. I would be disappointed in giving up our 2nd or even 3rd straight up for him.


Edit - The draft value chart says the slide is worth 850, which is more than our second is worth stand alone. I believe that Cin has quite a few draft picks currently they may be willing to do something to move up if there is someone they really want in the top 3.
 

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#3 = 2,200
#9 = 1,350
net = 850 for AJM which = #20

#3 for #9 and #20(AJM)

Perhaps the Bears would be willing to take McCarron and the No. 9 pick to allow Cincinnati to move to the No. 3 pick, but even that six-spot jump may be too much for the Bears to complete the deal.
 

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Pace should be taken behind a wood shed if he gives up the 2nd for AJ and if he swapped 1st rounders then he should be drawn and quartered or at least forced to debate with remy for one week non-stop.
 

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#3 = 2,200
#9 = 1,350
net = 850 for AJM which = #20

#3 for #9 and #20(AJM)

Perhaps the Bears would be willing to take McCarron and the No. 9 pick to allow Cincinnati to move to the No. 3 pick, but even that six-spot jump may be too much for the Bears to complete the deal.

**** that use 3 for elite defender or QB.
 

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Would anyone consider moving back to 9 for McCarron and say their 4th?

Are there 9 blue chippers in this draft without the QB's?

I think more picks are important for us. I would be disappointed in giving up our 2nd or even 3rd straight up for him.


Edit - The draft value chart says the slide is worth 850, which is more than our second is worth stand alone. I believe that Cin has quite a few draft picks currently they may be willing to do something to move up if there is someone they really want in the top 3.

I wasn't a fan of his in college and haven't seen him in the NFL. So this isn't a move I'd be real happy with. I do completely agree with you that we need all our picks. So I'd prefer a trade back situation if we had to. Would still much rather just draft a QB at 3.
 

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I wasn't a fan of his in college and haven't seen him in the NFL. So this isn't a move I'd be real happy with. I do completely agree with you that we need all our picks. So I'd prefer a trade back situation if we had to. Would still much rather just draft a QB at 3.

See I think we could move back to 9, get McCarron and a 4th from the Bengals and still pick up one of the same QB's we would've gotten at 3.

So why not get the extra pick and an extra QB, whether he works out or not?
 

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See I think we could move back to 9, get McCarron and a 4th from the Bengals and still pick up one of the same QB's we would've gotten at 3.

So why not get the extra pick and an extra QB, whether he works out or not?

I'm just not high on AJ. Maybe he's improved in the NFL. But I thought he was a shit college QB.
 

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The Bears are quietly one of the better trade suitors for AJ McCarron.
by Jason Marcum@marcum89 Feb 22, 2017, 9:00am EST
Aaron Doster-USA TODAY Sports

It looks like the Bears will be in the market for a quarterback this offseason.
According to NFL.com’s Jeff Darlington, Chicago is actively pursuing a trade to send incumbent starter Jay Cutler to a new team.

I’m told by league sources Bears have now begun actively shopping Cutler, which isn’t surprising, but it does require some context:
— Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) February 21, 2017
While it makes sense to try to trade Cutler, an active pursuit to unload him is formal beginning of the end. Relationship all but over now.
— Jeff Darlington (@JeffDarlington) February 21, 2017

This all but assures Cutler of being with a new team next season, and it leaves the Bears in desperate need of a quarterback for next season. The question is, how will they get said quarterback?

Spending the No. 3 pick in April’s NFL Draft on one seems to be in play, but there’s no certainty that a quarterback worthy of that pick will be on the board. The 49ers, who pick at No. 2, are strongly interested in taking a quarterback there, and there’s already a lot of debate as to whether there’s any passer in this draft worthy of a top-five pick, let alone two of them.

Mayock: In this particular year I don't think any one of these guys [QBs in the draft] are top 10 picks or even day one starters. #NFLDraft
— SiriusXM NFL Radio (@SiriusXMNFL) February 21, 2017
There’s also the fact that head coach John Fox is on the hot seat next season after back-to-back losing seasons, so it’s unlikely he wants to risk his job on a rookie. That’s why trading for an experienced quarterback is what Chicago should pursue this offseason, and it just so happens the Bengals have one.

Related
Hue Jackson "likes McCarron a lot", could be interested in trade
3 ways Bengals could instantly improve in 2017
NFL execs think AJ McCarron is best QB trade target

This could actually be the perfect trade fit for the Bengals, who are looking to land a first-round pick for McCarron, but certainly won’t land the No. 3 pick for him. Perhaps the Bears would be willing to take McCarron and the No. 9 pick to allow Cincinnati to move to the No. 3 pick, but even that six-spot jump may be too much for the Bears to complete the deal.

It’s more likely Chicago would be willing to deal their second-round pick, which comes at No. 36, for a guy like McCarron. Truth is, those first couple of second-round selections are essentially first-round picks, and that’s probably the best the Bengals can hope for in dealing McCarron.
They’ll try to get a first, but it’s more likely a high second-round choice is the best offer they’ll get. Chicago is one of the few teams that has an early second round pick, a need at quarterback and no certainty they’ll take one in the first round.

The question is, will the Bengals settle on a high second-round pick in exchange for McCarron? Even that’s a massive upgrade over the fifth-round selection the Bengals spent on him in the 2014 NFL Draft.

It’s not like the Patriots and Jimmy Garoppolo, a former second-round pick in that same draft. Of course they want a first-round pick for a guy they invested a high pick on, so he will likely be dealt for a first rounder, if he’s traded.

The Bengals can’t get greedy with McCarron if they want to get a good return on investment. Either the team takes something like a high second-round choice for him, gets lucky with a crazy trade, or the Bengals may wind up keeping him on the roster until he becomes a restricted free agent in 2018.
Keep an eye on the Bears’ quarterback search, as is would surely make sense for McCarron to be in consideration.

I dont buy the reason the Bears want a vet is Fox being or going to be on the hot seat. Pace is new also and doubt either of them would take such a risk and at the same time potentially settle for far less. This is a complete rebuild especially now that we are looking for a Franchise QB again. We have the third pick in the draft, this is where we should get our qb, whether picking there, trade down for more ammo, or even a trade. This year, picking @3 or trading down are our best options.

Edit: Not sure I would trade #3 for Cousins either with the huge contract hes going to command.
 

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