Coaching /GM Interview Tracker (Cunningham makes second round interviews in Jax)

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Antonio Pierce, a player's coach a leader of men liked by the players in Vegas had been a player in the NFL had coached at all levels etc etc etc.

Was an awful head coach.

Where have we seen this before?

Being a good coach is 90 percent a media driven narrative. Your destiny in the NFL is about who your past connections are who currently have a job in the NFL and whether or not someone in the media likes you enough to label you a good coach.
What a crock of shit. Examples, please?
 

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Well this makes me feel a whole lot better and frankly has Kevin Warren's fingerprints all over it because it's certainly isn't the McCaskeys:


Looks like Ben Johnson is the primary target for the Bears, and all these other names we heard were just back up if it doesn't go well.

That's new for the Bears. Have a guy and go after him.
Fantastic.

As long as he isn't using this opportunity as leverage to get what he really wants elsewhere, it seems like a really good match. He already knows the relative strengths and weaknesses of every defense in the division, comes in with a playbook with several plays circled for attacking or neutralizing star defenders that this team plays twice a year, and is the guy who helped take Jared Goff to the next level.
 

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Wonder how Bears 'slow moving' operation will affect new HC staff selection? There only so many decent prospects to fill a staff.
They will dither until all the top candidates are gone and the hire Thomas brown….
 

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Antonio Pierce, a player's coach a leader of men liked by the players in Vegas had been a player in the NFL had coached at all levels etc etc etc.

Was an awful head coach.

Where have we seen this before?

Being a good coach is 90 percent a media driven narrative. Your destiny in the NFL is about who your past connections are who currently have a job in the NFL and whether or not someone in the media likes you enough to label you a good coach.
For a prospective coach looking for a job? Sure, I can buy that. That applies to Chicago's situation now but I don't think it applies to where the Raiders were as a franchise, because they didn't have a QB worth a dime. They are starting over, possibly with Shadeur Sanders at QB (Which I personally want to see so very badly). With regard to Antonio Pierce, it was not about being a leader of men, it was about not giving the future of a rookie QB to a coach that already looks like he doesn't have what it takes to elevate the program. I think that is where it compares well to Chicago, in that the team absolutely should have started over with a new coach this past season.

But being a good coach while you are an HC is about building a program and being in charge of situational football. Not every HC remains a playcaller and has to delegate responsibility, but every HC needs to be on top of using time outs, challenging a ruling, rotating players, going for it on 4th, etc. What we as fans call "a leader of men" I think comes down to how a team's identity becomes shaped by its HC, which is part of building a program that repeats success. Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, Sean McVay, and John Harbaugh all have this quality, and I do not doubt that Dan Campbell has an honest chance at being the next on the list.
 

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I’m a fan of Pete Carroll - he would bring an elite staff with him and probably mentor Poles.
Hopefully he'll bring an elite staff cause Waldron was his last OC. If we go with Carroll then i want his replacement already on the staff as either the OC or DC.
 

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He doesn't have his own opinions. He flip flopped all over the place last year with the Fields/Caleb stuff but he's maybe helping Breer out a bit on it?

I think Breer is helping pump up Vrabel's value - he's a Pat's guy so he's clearly got ties to Vrabel.
Might be true but i don't think Vrabel needs anyone to pump up his value. Him and Johnson are the top two names out there and i don't even think whoever's 3rd is close.
 

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I’m a fan of Pete Carroll - he would bring an elite staff with him and probably mentor Poles.
Carroll is not going to happen for several reasons. But regarding your comment, Poles is not going to bring in a HC who will help mentor him. Not saying it’s a bad idea, but Poles won’t allow that. In fact, many GMs wouldn’t want that unless there is a mural agreement prior. But Poles strikes me as a guy who think he can do it all himself.
 

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Who would be the DC under Johnson?

Saleah?
 

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Might be true but i don't think Vrabel needs anyone to pump up his value. Him and Johnson are the top two names out there and i don't even think whoever's 3rd is close.
Mike Kafta is flying up those radars after the Bears requested an interview. Other teams are nervous and see the Bears are onto something……….
 

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Who would be the DC under Johnson?

Saleah?
I think Saleh would be a great choice. An experienced DC to pair up with a rookie HC. Don’t know if there are any connections between the two coaches though.
 

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I think Saleh would be a great choice. An experienced DC to pair up with a rookie HC. Don’t know if there are any connections between the two coaches though.
One of the biggest issues with Johnson is that he doesn't really have connections to anyone outside Dan Campbell's orbit. He's pretty much been working with Campbell his entire career in the NFL.
 

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One of the biggest issues with Johnson is that he doesn't really have connections to anyone outside Dan Campbell's orbit. He's pretty much been working with Campbell his entire career in the NFL.
Exactly. My guess is he would bring over someone from the Lions staff. But maybe he has formed small connections over the years.

Either way I personally would take Johnson as OC with an unknown DC than a defensive minded HC with an unknown OC.
 

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One of the biggest issues with Johnson is that he doesn't really have connections to anyone outside Dan Campbell's orbit. He's pretty much been working with Campbell his entire career in the NFL.
It is why you have to bring in experienced coaches to compare him to. Johnson is a hot name, but you are right that he doesn't have a track record that inspires a lot of confidence.

I think a direct comparison from him to Vrabel would help the decision. We know Vrabel is a good coach that was successful while having underwhelming QBs - he is going to ace an interview and really show the franchise what a good coach looks like. In comparison, that will help determine whether other coaches are as prepared to turn the team into a winner.
 

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It is why you have to bring in experienced coaches to compare him to. Johnson is a hot name, but you are right that he doesn't have a track record that inspires a lot of confidence.

I think a direct comparison from him to Vrabel would help the decision. We know Vrabel is a good coach that was successful while having underwhelming QBs - he is going to ace an interview and really show the franchise what a good coach looks like. In comparison, that will help determine whether other coaches are as prepared to turn the team into a winner.
Vrabel is a good coach but the Bears ability to grade an interview is worrisome. Remember when we got Trestman instead of Arians due to a mock interview. I'm afraid that could very easily happen again. Some people don't interview well even though their track record may speak for itself and they are successful. Ben Johnson is no doubt the hot name but someone like Coen with a good staff I wouldn't hate. Carroll would be a bridge that would make us a respectable team at very least. Johnson to me has one of the lowest floors.
 

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At this rate the Bears might not have a new HC until mid July
 

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