Coaching /GM Interview Tracker (Cunningham makes second round interviews in Jax)

[--CyBear--]

A lot of times, the only difference between a sports reporter and the rumor mongers that get a lot of hate on this board is a press credential.

Well that and access to genuine players, coaches, staff and Bears beat reporters that have actual access to same. I hope you aren't including bloggers like guys like Erik Lambert as a serious reporter or go to national talking head entertainers as genuine press. Stick to local guys that know the beat writers and screw all these so called 'reporters' that report what they hear via 3rd parties, especially unverified twitter twats. Current Bears are watertight since the Gabriel sting.

If you can't tell the difference (you can't) don't go try and justify this and dig a deeper hole. I've been following this board for a while and you're doing better but gullible still seems an appropriate description on your general perspective of things.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

I didn’t say best HC, but maybe the best HC for CHI given the state of the team rn.

Idk

To me, McCarthy represents the safe choice but not necessarily the best choice. I feel like it's the difference between winning a Super bowl and winning several Super bowls.

That being said, I would have said the exact same thing about Andy Reid coming from Philadelphia. Pairing Andy Reid with Patrick mahomes completely changed everything and turned them into a juggernaut. You would hope the same thing happens with McCarthy and Williams.

The difference here however is McCarthy already had a generational quarterback in Green Bay and only won a single Super bowl in which the defense really won the day for them.

The single most important question I would have for McCarthy is whether or not the tendency to avoid throwing over the middle was a philosophy that was his that he impressed on Rodgers or did that come from Aaron Rodgers himself.

That is not something I want to taught to Caleb and would be an automatic disqualifier if it came from him.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Well that and access to genuine players, coaches, staff and Bears beat reporters that have actual access to same. I hope you aren't including bloggers like guys like Erik Lambert as a serious reporter or go to national talking head entertainers as genuine press. Stick to local guys that know the beat writers and screw all these so called 'reporters' that report what they hear via 3rd parties, especially unverified twitter twats. Current Bears are watertight since the Gabriel sting.

If you can't tell the difference (you can't) don't go try and justify this and dig a deeper hole. I've been following this board for a while and you're doing better but gullible still seems an appropriate description on your general perspective of things.

You are making that argument but the reality in this era of social media is that people with a social media account often leak things that end up being true because they are friends or acquaintances or they have a friend who is a friend or an acquaintance of these players and coaches and other things.

So even the argument of access doesn't necessarily hold water because there have been too many instances of real information being leaked over social media by someone who personally knows someone in the NFL or know someone who knows someone. Not just talking around the bears either but League wide.

I don't think many traditional journalists understand how social media drastically changed the landscape and that the information brokers don't have a solid lock on information any further. Now people can get their information from other places.

 

[--CyBear--]

You are making that argument but the reality in this era of social media is that people with a social media account often leak things that end up being true because they are friends or acquaintances or they have a friend who is a friend or an acquaintance of these players and coaches and other things.

So even the argument of access doesn't necessarily hold water because there have been too many instances of real information being leaked over social media by someone who personally knows someone in the NFL or know someone who knows someone. Not just talking around the bears either but League wide.

I don't think many traditional journalists understand how social media drastically changed the landscape and that the information brokers don't have a solid lock on information any further. Now people can get their information from other places.

LOL. Any guess can turn out to be true and a lot of these guys just repeat what they hear from more reliable sources. As in, they aren't a reliable source for anything. That you persist in using these guys as viable sources is troubling.

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[Les Grossman]

The single most important question I would have for McCarthy is whether or not the tendency to avoid throwing over the middle was a philosophy that was his that he impressed on Rodgers or did that come from Aaron Rodgers himself.

That is not something I want to taught to Caleb and would be an automatic disqualifier if it came from him.

Idk how true that statement is though. His many times did we see GB complete slant routes against us?

 

[DefNextYear]

Well, he calls himself a reporter, but it also could be he is reacting to what other reporters are speculating on, like a game of telephone.

I just think of our own radio guys who have no sources and are just reporting what they hear. I doubt this dude knows anything.

 

[Bigfoot]

I’m preparing myself for McCarthy, that’s all the score is talking about so far.

 

[DefNextYear]

Idk the more and more I think about it, McCarthy might be the best pick for CHI

I think I said it elsewhere, but the pro of it is that you can guarantee a certain floor for Caleb and the team... and you can be pretty confident McCarthy will assemble a top end staff.

I figure, if you go with him, you guarantee a level of development that elevates the team. If you decide to fire him in 3 years, the Bears should be a really nice place to entice the top end coaches to come and replace McCarthy.

I would love to hit a homerun on the hire and not need to fire the coach in 3 years, but the glass half full approach on this specific hire is that we could do a lot worse and he won't leave our franchise in shambles afterwards.

 

[HeHateMe]

LOL. Any guess can turn out to be true and a lot of these guys just repeat what they hear from more reliable sources. As in, they aren't a reliable source for anything. That you persist in using these guys as viable sources is troubling.

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You're new here, so some background. This guy fell for Pizzagate.

 

[Nads786]

Idk how true that statement is though. His many times did we see GB complete slant routes against us?

Slants is a huge staple of what McCarthy did from my memory. He was a really solid coach for them. Rogers eventually got too big for McCarthy and was not going to be controlled.

One of the reasons Rogers and McCarthy's relationship ended is because Rogers would go off script and change the play. When MLF came to GB, he convinced Rogers to stay on script and let motions occurs to allow for easy matchups.

The problem with this approach in the QB's eyes is that it limits their agency and ruins tempo. Every play starts with 1 -2 motions, which can be annoying to a veteran QB.

When Rogers came to the Jets he went right back to the offense he wanted to run, which is QB controlled - survey the field and have my WRs win 1-on-1 matchups. But Sean McVay has shown his methods are vastly superior to what Rogers wants to do.

I think Caleb with his youth would listen to McCarthy and stick to the script which would help McCarthy be a good coach.

 

[dabears70]

The winner of the Ben Johnson sweepstakes will know the answer the week after the conference championships. It’s possible they already have a good idea. The agent is talking to Poles and Brady etc.

That's exactly why i said, not necessarily, when you said we would end up with him. Would really suck to wait on him and then him end up choosing the Raiders because they offer more money or for whatever reason, but................BEARS.

 

[Moses Moreno]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879170140954333484

Brady's guy. At least we held onto Poles!

 

[Les Grossman]

I think I said it elsewhere, but the pro of it is that you can guarantee a certain floor for Caleb and the team... and you can be pretty confident McCarthy will assemble a top end staff.

I figure, if you go with him, you guarantee a level of development that elevates the team. If you decide to fire him in 3 years, The Bears should be a really nice place to entice the top end coaches to come and replace McCarthy.

I would love to hit a homerun on the hire and not need to fire the coach in 3 years, but the glass half full approach on this specific hire is that we could do a lot worse and he won't leave our franchise in shambles afterwards.

I also think that unfortunately the ownership and upper management is not a strength of this team and I think a “new age” young HC might not do well without that strong support.

I think ownership is so stubborn in what they want and what they want to look like, it might. It be the best environment for a guy like BJ. Sometimes it’s about fit, not just talent.

 

[dabears70]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1879170140954333484

Brady's guy. At least we held onto Poles!

Ben Johnson's guy to.

 

[remydat]

Don't the Bears get like 3 4th round picks if Cunningham gets a GM spot?

They get a 3rd round pick in 2025 and 2026.

If 2 people are hired in the same year then it would be a third 3rd round pick in 2027

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

LOL. Any guess can turn out to be true and a lot of these guys just repeat what they hear from more reliable sources. As in, they aren't a reliable source for anything. That you persist in using these guys as viable sources is troubling.

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Anyone can say what you just said. But truth is, you just sound like you are gatekeeping for journalism - or at least the sad state of what passes for journalism nowadays.

Unfortunately, there are too many times where there have been situations where someone on social media was ahead of the journalists too many times to blow everything off as "lucky guesses" - that's either lazy, or flat dishonest.

Doesn't mean everything online is right, either. I often see people try to go the other direction and claim everything needs to be 100% or nothing. Such people don't understand (or intentionally are trying to muddy the waters) on how rumors work and the nature of the business.

As I have said before - if the rumor mills bother you so much, then don't engage with that content. But when people start telling others (or trying to shame them) to also not engage in content they personally don't like, then either that means the person doing so has emotional issues or an agenda. Learn to live and let live.

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

Idk how true that statement is though. His many times did we see GB complete slant routes against us?

True, but I suppose I should clarify - I am talking about over the middle beyond 5 yards but shorter than 20 - the "underneath" passing.

Tom Brady excelled in that, and Rodgers tended to mostly steer clear. Not saying Rodgers never did it, but when you look at the passing charts, he prefers to keep outside the hashes.

I feel like being able to conquer that "underneath" is a measure of how good a QB a team really has. It's the most vulnerable place for a turnover, so mastery of it by a QB tends to lead to great things for a team.

 

[remydat]

Ben Johnson's guy to.

Not really. Spent one year in Detroit in 2004 and never overlapped with Johnson. The Raiders reporter just presumed he and Ben would be good fits with with each other as they are both beta nerds.

 

[Rise]

Ben Johnson's guy to.

I thought Lance Newmark is his rumored choice?

 

[Mighty Joe Young]

I just think of our own radio guys who have no sources and are just reporting what they hear. I doubt this dude knows anything.

When you get down to it, a lot of what we hear nowadays, speaking honestly, is team propaganda.

The days of journalists digging up stories on their own and doing lengthy research and cross checking facts is gone, at least in sports media.

Nowadays, what happens is the guys on the beat try to cozy up to people coaching the team or in management, and it becomes a quid pro quo sort of relationship, where a lot of what gets leaked is what either the coach or the management want out there. And if a journalist tries to actually report on a story that goes against the team's interests, they can be threatened into silence or not doing it again by having their press credentials pulled.

Once you know that, it becomes easy to spot - 2 years ago, a LOT of the narrative surrounding Justin Fields was being leaked by Luke Getsy, who was only doing that because he was trying to save his own skin (didn't work). We saw the same thing a decade ago with Aaron Kromer leaking things about Jay Cutler. And the thing is, you never know if these guys are lying to try to save their own asses.

It's honestly why the rumor mills and social media are so threatening to teams - they can't police everyone, and even if you do have people out there making shit up, you also have people who actually personally do know a player, a staff member, etc, and end up sharing for whatever reason.

That's what makes the rumor mill so fun; you get actual, truthful nuggets from time to time, and occasionally you get someone connected but outside of a team's control who ends up right on a lot of things, because they have a source. And of course eventually, that source does get found, and either told to knock it off or gets fired, which makes the original account no longer have a use, but eventually another one pops up. Because a lot of regular people like sharing this shit on social media. And it gives you a peek into what is really going on.

In the meantime, anyone who has followed the rumor mills knows about 80%-90% of the stuff out there is bullshit. but it keeps discussion going and its fun.

Which always makes one wonder why some people have such a personal problem with it - seems to me, the only people who would are journalists who are bound by what the profession has become, those friends of said journalists, or emotionally unstable people who needs to tell everyone else how to live their lives and enjoy their free time.

c'est la vie...