Crawford Signs Six year extension

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$36M for $6M/year cap hit...</p>
 

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Considering what he's done, its definitely worth it. </p>
 

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I'm happy with it (though would never sign a goalie to six years) Comparing it to other goalie contracts, it's worth it. </p>
 

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It would get him through his prime years, which is fine by me. 6 years is a lot, but it at least stabilizes our goalie situation for a bit.</p>
 

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Good move.</p>
 

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This is not a Bowman signing. The Bowman's do not believe in giving these types of contracts to goaltenders.</p>
 

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One day GMs will learn that in the salary cap era long term, big money contract deals to goalies almost never work and almost always handicap your ability to keep a great team in front of him together. Unfortunately that day was not today. </p>
 

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One day GMs will learn that in the salary cap era long term, big money contract deals to goalies almost never work and almost always handicap your ability to keep a great team in front of him together. Unfortunately that day was not today.</p></blockquote>
I know Crawford has won the Cup and everything but I must agree with Variable here.
 

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This is not a Bowman signing. The Bowman's do not believe in giving these types of contracts to goaltenders.</p>
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Ugggh, well this is certainly not the Hawks news I wanted to get on a holiday. LOATHE this contract. Doesn't strike me as very Bowman-esque esp. during the Detroit model's best years. $6 mil per for fucking 6 years. . . for a goalie??? Lessons learned from the Khabibulin and Huet deals of the past = ZERO. Not to mention but good Lord, have they not seen all the big goalie contracts that have blown up in various organizations faces the past few years? This fanbase better pray there's no NTC/NMC component.</p>
 

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I know Crawford has won the Cup and everything but I must agree with Variable here.</p>
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The Blackhawks won the Cup, not just Crawford. In as much as a lot hockey fans that love to talk about how hockey is the best team sport, how it takes everyone on the team to put forth great effort, they sure do fucking toss all that out when it comes to talking about goalies. I don't know what it is, I'll never understand it.</p>
 

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Ugggh, well this is certainly not the Hawks news I wanted to get on a holiday. LOATHE this contract. Doesn't strike me as very Bowman-esque esp. during the Detroit model's best years. $6 mil per for fucking 6 years. . . for a goalie??? Lessons learned from the Khabibulin and Huet deals of the past = ZERO. Not to mention but good Lord, have they not seen all the big goalie contracts that have blown up in various organizations faces the past few years? This fanbase better pray there's no NTC/NMC component.</p>
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Yeah I wasn't really worried anymore before now. I thought they had learned, that they were now smarter than this. Especially after already making the correct decision a few years ago when it came to bringing back Hammer or Niemi. Guess not.</p>
 

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The $$S suck IMO but the term is just BRUTAL in this day and age for a goalie in light of what the Hawks have done to win 2 Cups in the last 4 years not to mention Detroit's best years with Scotty when Holland USED to get it. And I don't wanna hear about how the Cap will be going back up and how this could be a deal in a few years because I DON'T CARE---I don't believe in spending a lot on goalies. Period. Let other teams be the ones who like star goalies and their contracts as far as I am concerned. When this deal activates the Hawks will most likely have a Top 10 in salary goalie which was unnecessary IMO. </p>
 

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Yeah that shouldn't matter.  The cap going up is the excuse fans of the Bruins use to justify Rask's contract. It doesn't matter, it's about smartly managing the salary cap. Committing that much money to a goalie for that many years, no matter what the cap is at and no matter how good the goalie is, is not smartly managing the salary cap.</p>
 

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Are there some goalies who probably deserve $5+ mil per because they literally have shown that they can win their teams games? Sure, I'll concede that for OTHER teams. All the Hawks have needed as long as they commit to Team D IMO is just a goalie who will likely allow a few goals per game but is basically good enough and doesn't lose them games on the regular.</p>


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And I am not even someone who dislikes or ever even slagged on Corey but I also don't think he's worth that kind of coin so $6 mil per for him is just SMH absurd but </p>


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S-I-X years.  . . :facepalm:</p>
 

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I think it was stupid to not at least wait and see what Raanta does in Rockford for a year before negotiating the terms of the new deal with Crawford (note that I believed all along they would attempt to re-sign him NEXT year and had no problem with that). </p>


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I think it was stupid to not at least wait and see what kind of effect not having Waite as goalies coach for a year might have.</p>


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I think they will regret at least the length of this deal like so many teams have with their shiny goalie contracts.</p>


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Whatever. What's done is done. And the news has sufficiently fucked over the good mood I was in heading into this upcoming week's Rookie Tournament. </p>
 

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It's bad all around. Even if Raanta doesn't pan out and you can't re-sign Crawford, there are always average to above average goalies out there in free agency you can pick up. This Hawks team with all their depth and talent doesn't need to spend 6 million dollars on a goalie.</p>
 

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The $$S suck IMO but the term is just BRUTAL in this day and age for a goalie in light of what the Hawks have done to win 2 Cups in the last 4 years not to mention Detroit's best years with Scotty when Holland USED to get it. And I don't wanna hear about how the Cap will be going back up and how this could be a deal in a few years because I DON'T CARE---I don't believe in spending a lot on goalies. Period. Let other teams be the ones who like star goalies and their contracts as far as I am concerned. When this deal activates the Hawks will most likely have a Top 10 in salary goalie which was unnecessary IMO. </p>
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When did Holland and Bowman get that? When they had almost 30 million dollars tied up in three goalies?</p>


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or when their hand got forced, and they HAD to go cheap on goaltending? </p>


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People seem to forget how much money that team had tied up in Hasek, Cujo and Legace only to go out in the first round every year. </p>
 

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It's bad all around. Even if Raanta doesn't pan out and you can't re-sign Crawford, there are always average to above average goalies out there in free agency you can pick up. This Hawks team with all their depth and talent doesn't need to spend 6 million dollars on a goalie.</p>
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what "above average" UFA goalies would be available? </p>
 

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Personally, I'd go for Khudobin.  I thought Boston was kinda crazy to let him go, but they also signed Rask to that stupid contract. He only signed a one year, 800k something deal with Carolina to back up Ward.  The point is the Hawks don't need an elite paid goalie in net for them in order to succeed. </p>
 

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