Cubs Can't Get Over the Hill; No Extensions Either,

[Jntg4]

Bruce Miles writes that the Cubs are planning to offer arbitration to all six of their arbitration eligible players, Geovany Soto, Carlos Marmol, Sean Marshall, Tom Gorzelanny, Jeff Baker and Koyie Hill. As Miles notes, Hendry must be confident that Baker and Hill will accept whatever the Cubs are proposing.

AZ Phil guesses on the right sidebar are:

$4.25M for Marmol ($2.125M last year)

$3.5M for Soto ($0.575M)

$2.5M for Gorzelanny ($0.8M)

$2M for Marshall ($.95M)

$1.25M for Baker($.975M)

$0.75M for Hill ($0.7M)

I think Marmol is easily gonna get over $5M myself, possibly closer to $6M based on Francisco Rodriguez getting $7M in his second arbitration eligible year and Papelbon getting $9.35M. Yes, they were closers longer and I'm not advcocating he'll get as much, but I think he'll get closer to them than Phil is suggesting. Soto seems about right, as Russ Martin got $3.9M in his first arb-eligible year. The rest I offer no opinions on, other than Koyie Hill is worth the cost of a bullpen catcher.

We'll get the official lists soon enough from the rest of the league and that should open up the free agency market a little as well before next week's winter meetings.

WTF? I'm gonna kill myself now. WTF are they keeping Hill for?

 

[tbo41fan]

What is Hill's WAR?

 

[Jntg4]

What is Hill's WAR?

-100000000

Na, I'll check now.

 

[Jntg4]

It was -0.7. Castillo had 0.4 in VERY limited time.

 

[waldo7239117]

The Cubs were going to offer arb, but if they decline, they both won't be back in 11'.

 

[Jntg4]

Trade Hill for Davis, see if Texas takes that deal.
:crazydance:

 

[waldo7239117]

Trade Hill for Davis, see if Texas takes that deal.
:crazydance:

Yeah, right. They'll counter for a bag of dog shit.

 

[Jntg4]

Yeah, right. They'll counter for a bag of dog shit.

Sounds like a fair trade to me.

Dog Shit: 0.0 WAR
Hill: -0.7 WAR

Think we'd have to throw money in too?

 

[waldo7239117]

Sounds like a fair trade to me.

Dog Shit: 0.0 WAR
Hill: -0.7 WAR

Think we'd have to throw money in too?

Depends on the quanity...

LOL.

 

[AddisonStation]

Sounds like a fair trade to me.

Dog Shit: 0.0 WAR
Hill: -0.7 WAR

Think we'd have to throw money in too?

Wow that made me chuckle.

 

[Jntg4]

Wow that made me chuckle.

You're welcome.:blackhawks:

 

[DewsSox79]

What is Hill's WAR?

 

[Jntg4]

I thought it was worse than that, but he's still horrible regardless.

 

[tbo41fan]

lmao...i was joking btw when asking for his WAR

 

[Jntg4]

IK, I decided to check it anyway.

 

[tbo41fan]

Anyone know Rich Hill's FIP off hand?

 

[Jntg4]

Actually, I do. 2.33.