Cubs offer arbitration to Ramirez and Pena

[nwfisch]

So the Cubs win 71 wins with Pena instead of 68?

If the Cubs get to the playoffs again, I don't expect Pena to be the starting 1B getting there.

 

[Captain Obvious]

For one Ramirez turned down the option.

If the Cubs lose out on Fielder and cant trade for Gabby, I'd be ok with Pena coming back.

I'm not a huge fan of Gabby. He's 28. He's no LaHair, but he's not that great either. If we miss our on Prince Pujols, then I suppose he wouldn't be too bad, depending on the cost. Probably a reliever.

 

[nwfisch]

For one Ramirez turned down the option.

If the Cubs lose out on Fielder and cant trade for Gabby, I'd be ok with Pena coming back.

That doesn't mean the Cubs couldn't have resigned him to a long term deal.

Bringing back Pena just because he's better than LaHair is silly.

 

[Captain Obvious]

So the Cubs win 71 wins with Pena instead of 68?

If the Cubs get to the playoffs again, I don't expect Pena to be the starting 1B getting there.

You asked why they would. I answered why they would.

 

[AddisonStation]

That doesn't mean the Cubs couldn't have resigned him to a long term deal.

Bringing back Pena just because he's better than LaHair is silly.

First sentence: why would the cubs bring back Ramirez long term? Bad idea.

Second: why wouldn't you want the better player?

 

[nwfisch]

First sentence: why would the cubs bring back Ramirez long term? Bad idea.

Second: why wouldn't you want the better player?

If the Cubs wanted to compete, they would have brought back Ramirez.

It's silly for the Cubs to when the separation of wins is 68 wins compared to 71 wins, and when Pena will be making $12M.

 

[Captain Obvious]

If the Cubs wanted to compete, they would have brought back Ramirez.

It's silly for the Cubs to when the separation of wins is 68 wins compared to 71 wins, and when Pena will be making $12M.

It's silly? It makes the team better at below market value. Sounds like a good move to me.

 

[AddisonStation]

If the Cubs wanted to compete, they would have brought back Ramirez.

It's silly for the Cubs to when the separation of wins is 68 wins compared to 71 wins, and when Pena will be making $12M.

Not long term. I would have been down had he picked up the option but 3+ years is out of the question.

 

[nwfisch]

Not long term. I would have been down had he picked up the option but 3+ years is out of the question.

Knowing Ramirez is gone, you'd support the Cubs signing Pena?

 

[nwfisch]

It's silly? It makes the team better at below market value. Sounds like a good move to me.

Staying at 71 wins is better than 68 I guess.:dunno:

If the Cubs don't want to compete, they may as well not spend $12M on Pena, and put that towards next years FA.

 

[AddisonStation]

Knowing Ramirez is gone, you'd support the Cubs signing Pena?

Rather than LaHair, yes. If there was a 22 year old prospect coming up, no.

 

[Capt. Serious]

Pena doesn't accept.

MLB Network's Jon Heyman reports that Carlos Pena will not accept arbitration from the Cubs.

Not a big surprise, as Pena is looking for a multi-year contract in free agency. The Cubs would receive a sandwich pick if signs with another team. The 33-year-old first baseman had an .819 OPS and 28 homers in 153 games this past season for the Cubs.

 

[Rice Cube]

^ Ah, nice to get the news on the day it's actually supposed to happen

 

[nwfisch]

I'll take the pick and LaHair over Pena for multiple years.

 

[AddisonStation]

I'll take the pick and LaHair over Pena for multiple years.

I agree with taking the pick and not Pena for multiple years but not LaHair.

 

[nwfisch]

I agree with taking the pick and not Pena for multiple years but not LaHair.

I sure hope the Cubs don't see LaHair as the long term answer at 1B.

But, I don't get why the Cubs would sign Pena, when there are many holes/positions lacking talent. I'd rather they play LaHair or Colvin next season if the plan is to "rebuild." Even if their plan is to compete, there are better options at 1B obviously.

 

[Lex L.]

I sure hope the Cubs don't see LaHair as the long term answer at 1B.

But, I don't get why the Cubs would sign Pena, when there are many holes/positions lacking talent. I'd rather they play LaHair or Colvin next season if the plan is to "rebuild." Even if their plan is to compete, there are better options at 1B obviously.

It's not mutually exclusive. People need to get this into their heads. They want to do a better job at adding and cutivating talent but, in the meantime, they want to field a competitive team at the big club level. People need to wrap their heads around what Theo said about parallel objectives and hold him to it.

But I agree in one respect. If LaHair is the first baseman of the future, then this stuff about parallel objectives was a lie. And this also woudnt surprise me.

 

[daddies3angels]

I see Pena coming on 2 yr deal. I hate it but he type of player Theo likes. OBP + good DEF