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I think we would be near or at .500 if 4 of those never happened -_-
Only tied? Could have sworn we'd have at least double... probably would have if only we had an offense that could get us more leads to have an opportunity to blow.
Problem on both sides of town, the offense stinks in this town
Of course they aren't going to lay blame on the offense. How foolish would it be to point out your flaws for the world to see?
And god forbid it might actually draw attention to the fact that the Crown Jewel of the rebuild, our 'franchise' 1B isn't close to hitting his weight.
In fact his OBP is barely his weight.
It's probably too cold. LOL
Of course, if he does turn it around, I will love to remind people (and you know who they are) of how horrible a player that A-Ram was when he got off to slow starts and how bad it was for the Cubs.
Hilarious if you really think about it.
I think we would be near or at .500 if 4 of those never happened -_-
Let this team stink up the joint. Cub fans will be rewarded for their patience.
I've been a fan since the early 60's........and they've stunk up the joint much of the time since then.
How much more patient should I be?
It's a dumb mentality. Let the team suck now because of all these studs we have on the farm. What happens if they bust? We have to be even more patient while they find more studs in the draft?
I guess that's a better strategy than signing proven major league players.
FA signings will diminish with all the new rules in place as teams try and sign their own drafted players to long term contracts while young.
Its already started to an extent leaving the only feasible way to collect talent is thru the draft and putting a huge amount of faith in scouting.
On the plus side, Theo gets it by chosing to be really, really bad now while collecting draft picks near the top.
Jackson was nothing but a impulse buy and shouldn't have happened, sign these movable parts and get more prospects at the deadline.
Its a work in progress that from the looks of it, is actually working.
Free agency is not going to diminish. Pure crap. What else you got?
Really? So I guess all those free agents that signed with new teams this past offseason are figments of my imagination.
Why is being really bad now part of the equation when it's not necessary? You can field a real team at the major league level and still draft well.
Yeah, great idea. Much better than signing quality players and winning games.
How can you tell it's working?
The major league team sucks and none of the minor league players are close to being ready.
Are you sure about that? Last summer you had two, count em, two players whom many would consider elite players in Hamilton and Greinke. Both of which have their own personal issues that scared teams away and rightly so. Next year you are looking at one in Cano. Its a huge difference now that many teams are using the method of signing their young talent early and thru their first few years of free agency. If you are talking just signing filler for the sake of doing something, which was what the Cubs did how many years under Hendry, well, that worked out pretty good, eh? I mean, the dust is still caked on the mantle where the WS trophy should have been amidst all the money they spend to aquire talent that did nothing but flop like Ric Flair from a phantom punch.Free agency is not going to diminish. Pure crap. What else you got?
All that filler, you mean? Signing broken down players for the sake of signing players isn't a winning template. I mean, take the Cubs for instance. How did spending money make them win a WS? A franchise with a long history of complete failure surely couldn't hurt itself by trying to do something as constructive as building a foundation on which it can balance its future on without any fear of financial responsibility to a bunch of roster filler that wasn't gonna change this teams outlook none the slightest in the big picture. There isn't a single person alive with a working heart that could actually attempt to justify wasting money of Grenkie or Hamilton and thought that was the move that puts this Cubs team in the playoffs. I mean, spend money, but spend it on the right players instead of just throwing money away like Hendry.Really? So I guess all those free agents that signed with new teams this past offseason are figments of my imagination.
Higher picks, less room to completely blow it and accumulate enough talent in the minors that when the time comes they have an abundance of talent to make more moves. Its not rocket science. I would much, much rather get elite talent instead of hoping a sure fire kid with skill falls unblemished into the Cubs lap. Take this years draft, you have two high quality pitchers who are farther along then everybody else, the Cubs will surely get one of them. Those guys don't last, and while Appel pulled his Boras crap last year, he wasn't signing anywhere. He cant do that this year.Why is being really bad now part of the equation when it's not necessary? You can field a real team at the major league level and still draft well.
What quality players were coming to the Cubs, again? As for winning, this team hasn't won in over 100 years, another two years isn't gonna hurt them.Yeah, great idea. Much better than signing quality players and winning games.
Look at the prospects who are being developed instead of rushed into the majors. Soler is as raw as it gets yet is getting coached the right way outside of waving a bat at another team. Theo identifies the talent where as Hendry identified Apple fritters.How can you tell it's working?
And nor should they be. Let them develop.The major league team sucks and none of the minor league players are close to being ready.
Are you sure about that?
If you are talking just signing filler for the sake of doing something, which was what the Cubs did how many years under Hendry, well, that worked out pretty good, eh?
I mean, the dust is still caked on the mantle where the WS trophy should have been amidst all the money they spend to aquire talent that did nothing but flop like Ric Flair from a phantom punch.
Still like the Soriano signing, I take it?
All that filler, you mean? Signing broken down players for the sake of signing players isn't a winning template.
How did spending money make them win a WS?
A franchise with a long history of complete failure surely couldn't hurt itself by trying to do something as constructive as building a foundation on which it can balance its future on without any fear of financial responsibility to a bunch of roster filler that wasn't gonna change this teams outlook none the slightest in the big picture.
There isn't a single person alive with a working heart that could actually attempt to justify wasting money of Grenkie or Hamilton and thought that was the move that puts this Cubs team in the playoffs. I mean, spend money, but spend it on the right players instead of just throwing money away like Hendry.
Higher picks, less room to completely blow it and accumulate enough talent in the minors that when the time comes they have an abundance of talent to make more moves.
Its not rocket science. I would much, much rather get elite talent instead of hoping a sure fire kid with skill falls unblemished into the Cubs lap. Take this years draft, you have two high quality pitchers who are farther along then everybody else, the Cubs will surely get one of them. Those guys don't last, and while Appel pulled his Boras crap last year, he wasn't signing anywhere. He cant do that this year.
What quality players were coming to the Cubs, again? As for winning, this team hasn't won in over 100 years, another two years isn't gonna hurt them.
Look at the prospects who are being developed instead of rushed into the majors. Soler is as raw as it gets yet is getting coached the right way outside of waving a bat at another team. Theo identifies the talent where as Hendry identified Apple fritters.
And nor should they be. Let them develop.
Good try tho.
Creme
Then tell me, who actually wanted to sign here as a FA last winter besides pure over payment for a bottom of the rotation guy in Jackson who would have signed somewhere else if the money matched?Positive.
Which means what considering the White Sox won a World Series in between fail attempts for the Cubs?Well, they won some divisions, no?
What did he do? Nothing. Divisions mean little when its just an excuse for playing a couple more weeks in the year and losing draft position. Hendry killed this team with his stupidity and complete lack of drafting skills no matter how much any Hendry fanboi wants to project something of merit. There wasn't.So I would say Hendry did some good. Came up short in the end, but let's not pretend he did everything wrong. Because that would be dumb.
Shoe. Fits.Wow, a Ric Flair reference. That's awesome.
And is the poster boy for how not to do things. Its Ricketts money, he doesn't have to spend it just to waste it. Any other response to such nonsense is pish.Soriano has produced in a Cub uniform. They got what they paid for. They overpaid for it but when you have a lot of money and are among the most profitable teams in baseball, you can do that and not feel the effects of it.
They signed pieces to complement their home grown talent, yes. The Cubs just aren't in that position to be that type of team now.Yeah, I guess winning teams never sign free agents.
I mean, obviously, the entire Giants roster was homegrown. And the Cardinals before that. The Yankees.....all home grown. The Phillies were too when they won. The Red Sox. White Sox.
None of them ever signed free agents, correct?
The Cubs are nowhere near close to a WS even if they spent money last off season. And even then, they had to find players who wanted to play here. Nobody was taking that offer outside of a journeyman pitcher whose better days look behind him.Got them closer than not spending has.
Really now? With one of the worst farm systems in baseball that does indeed have talent but is a couple years away? Surely you are joking. If your idea of spending money in FA to field a team is the right idea to be competitive well...look no further then the Cubs of only a few years ago, and how spending money ruined this team and hopefully, with Theo at the helm, learn from the mistakes of it. Albatross contracts that players think they are entitled to is yesterdays news. But so is spending lavishly on mediocre talent.A franchise in a big market with lots of money could build the foundation and field a competitive team in the big leagues at the same time.
Like Josh Hamilton or Grenkie? Sorry, they wernt coming here even if Ricketts thru the check book at them. There wasn't a single FA last winter that was an impact player who was willing to come to the North side, sad but true.Theo has a plan and is sticking to it. You should be thankful, if you are a Cubs fan, that you have a GM/Prez/Owner all on the same page for once and are trying to build a solid team the right way instead of jumping the gun and burying a ton of cash into the winters latest flavor of the month. There just isn't a winning aura about the Cubs, end of. Give the guy a couple years because so far, unlike the clown running the Bears, he seems to be committed to everything he says, and thank god for that.Yeah I guess signing guys who are among the best at what they do is just silly.
Um, ones that actually want to be here, perhaps?Complete silliness. Who are the "right" players if they aren't?
But, in this day and age, is more of a sure thing then drafting at the bottom of the rounds with a rebuilding team. Hey, I mean, look at Theos draft record. I know, I know, Hendry wasted how many high draft picks on sure fire busts, but this isn't Hendry.Higher picks does not always equal better player. So throw that out.
Or better yet, develop these players, see what they have, evaluate talent without a hamburger in your face and use the scraps to pin point players who will help the team in the future. Hendry fooled you, I can tell. Learn to let go, Theo is much,much better that this.So we lose now in order to build up talent in the minor leagues........to later trade them to acquire proven players?
Because this team is nowhere near ready to compete for a WS, perhaps?Why not sign the proven players now and eliminate the wait?
Folly. If you don't see the big picture then I don't know what to tell you. I understand that waiting around has to hurt, but you know what, its not like Cub fans don't know anything other then, just sayin.It's so awesome how you have this figured out. The only question is how are you not working for one of these teams in the majors right now?
Right now? No. Their biggest signing was an over payment for a five. Sanchez used them to up his price tag to the Tigers. Nobody wants to play here right now. It will chance, just not until those same prospects develop.Great defense. I guess no players would want to sign with the Cubs........so we should just give that up.
Good question. Why? Money.And why try to field a good team. We've sucked for so long.....let's just keep doing what is familiar.
Funny, so have the Cubs.Awesome.
When Soler is in the majors and becomes an all-star....you can say these sorts of things. As of today he is an unproven minor league player that has done jack.
And his weakness at identifying talent thru the draft is the main reason this team is where it is. Relying on FA's and spending enormous amounts of money isn't smart business. This isn't the Yankees, this is the Cubs.Hendry signed and traded for guys that actually did well in the majors. Maybe comparisions should be held off until the results are shown on the field.
Basically. The futures a wonderful thing.And what happens if they don't? I ask since you seem to have this figured out.
We just wait longer?
Spending somebody elses money on the internet to compensate a team going thru a complete over haul isn't really logic. Its more fanboi. Its a rebuild. A redo. A fresh start. Let it play out.Yeah, I guess sound logic doesn't really work. Blind faith is the way to go these days.
Lemons.Peaches.
Then tell me, who actually wanted to sign here as a FA last winter besides pure over payment for a bottom of the rotation guy in Jackson who would have signed somewhere else if the money matched?
Which means what considering the White Sox won a World Series in between fail attempts for the Cubs?
Nothing will ever beat the huge sigh the fanbase that filled Wrigley Field when Manny hit that tater, nothing. Divisions mean nothing, and its basically what Theo has tried to state before and while doing thru with this entire cleansing of a losing environment.
What did he do? Nothing. Divisions mean little when its just an excuse for playing a couple more weeks in the year and losing draft position. Hendry killed this team with his stupidity and complete lack of drafting skills no matter how much any Hendry fanboi wants to project something of merit. There wasn't.
Would you rather have three division titles or a WS title? Simple question and surely a Sox fan will say the WS. Or better yet, a Bears fan, A Hawks fan, etc.
Shoe. Fits.
And is the poster boy for how not to do things. Its Ricketts money, he doesn't have to spend it just to waste it. Any other response to such nonsense is pish.
They signed pieces to complement their home grown talent, yes. The Cubs just aren't in that position to be that type of team now.
The Cubs are nowhere near close to a WS even if they spent money last off season. And even then, they had to find players who wanted to play here. Nobody was taking that offer outside of a journeyman pitcher whose better days look behind him.
Really now? With one of the worst farm systems in baseball that does indeed have talent but is a couple years away? Surely you are joking. If your idea of spending money in FA to field a team is the right idea to be competitive well...look no further then the Cubs of only a few years ago, and how spending money ruined this team and hopefully, with Theo at the helm, learn from the mistakes of it. Albatross contracts that players think they are entitled to is yesterdays news. But so is spending lavishly on mediocre talent.
Like Josh Hamilton or Grenkie? Sorry, they wernt coming here even if Ricketts thru the check book at them. There wasn't a single FA last winter that was an impact player who was willing to come to the North side, sad but true.Theo has a plan and is sticking to it. You should be thankful, if you are a Cubs fan, that you have a GM/Prez/Owner all on the same page for once and are trying to build a solid team the right way instead of jumping the gun and burying a ton of cash into the winters latest flavor of the month. There just isn't a winning aura about the Cubs, end of. Give the guy a couple years because so far, unlike the clown running the Bears, he seems to be committed to everything he says, and thank god for that.
Um, ones that actually want to be here, perhaps?
But, in this day and age, is more of a sure thing then drafting at the bottom of the rounds with a rebuilding team. Hey, I mean, look at Theos draft record. I know, I know, Hendry wasted how many high draft picks on sure fire busts, but this isn't Hendry.
Or better yet, develop these players, see what they have, evaluate talent without a hamburger in your face and use the scraps to pin point players who will help the team in the future. Hendry fooled you, I can tell. Learn to let go, Theo is much,much better that this.
Because this team is nowhere near ready to compete for a WS, perhaps?
Folly. If you don't see the big picture then I don't know what to tell you. I understand that waiting around has to hurt, but you know what, its not like Cub fans don't know anything other then, just sayin.
Right now? No. Their biggest signing was an over payment for a five. Sanchez used them to up his price tag to the Tigers. Nobody wants to play here right now. It will chance, just not until those same prospects develop.
Good question. Why? Money.
Funny, so have the Cubs.
At least Theo identifies the talent Soler has and is developing him accordingly.
And his weakness at identifying talent thru the draft is the main reason this team is where it is. Relying on FA's and spending enormous amounts of money isn't smart business. This isn't the Yankees, this is the Cubs.
Basically. The futures a wonderful thing.
Spending somebody elses money on the internet to compensate a team going thru a complete over haul isn't really logic. Its more fanboi. Its a rebuild. A redo. A fresh start. Let it play out.
Lemons.
Creme
I am not sure what is considered an elite player, but my guess would be that it is something a little more polished than Hairston, DeJesus, Stewart, Valbuena, or Schierholtz.
Then tell me, who actually wanted to sign here as a FA last winter besides pure over payment for a bottom of the rotation guy in Jackson who would have signed somewhere else if the money matched?
Which means what considering the White Sox won a World Series in between fail attempts for the Cubs?
Nothing will ever beat the huge sigh the fanbase that filled Wrigley Field when Manny hit that tater, nothing. Divisions mean nothing, and its basically what Theo has tried to state before and while doing thru with this entire cleansing of a losing environment.
What did he do? Nothing. Divisions mean little when its just an excuse for playing a couple more weeks in the year and losing draft position. Hendry killed this team with his stupidity and complete lack of drafting skills no matter how much any Hendry fanboi wants to project something of merit. There wasn't.
Would you rather have three division titles or a WS title? Simple question and surely a Sox fan will say the WS. Or better yet, a Bears fan, A Hawks fan, etc.
Shoe. Fits.
And is the poster boy for how not to do things. Its Ricketts money, he doesn't have to spend it just to waste it. Any other response to such nonsense is pish.
They signed pieces to complement their home grown talent, yes. The Cubs just aren't in that position to be that type of team now.
The Cubs are nowhere near close to a WS even if they spent money last off season. And even then, they had to find players who wanted to play here. Nobody was taking that offer outside of a journeyman pitcher whose better days look behind him.
Um, ones that actually want to be here, perhaps?
But, in this day and age, is more of a sure thing then drafting at the bottom of the rounds with a rebuilding team. Hey, I mean, look at Theos draft record. I know, I know, Hendry wasted how many high draft picks on sure fire busts, but this isn't Hendry.
Or better yet, develop these players, see what they have, evaluate talent without a hamburger in your face and use the scraps to pin point players who will help the team in the future. Hendry fooled you, I can tell. Learn to let go, Theo is much,much better that this.
Folly. If you don't see the big picture then I don't know what to tell you. I understand that waiting around has to hurt, but you know what, its not like Cub fans don't know anything other then, just sayin.
Good question. Why? Money.
At least Theo identifies the talent Soler has and is developing him accordingly.
And his weakness at identifying talent thru the draft is the main reason this team is where it is. Relying on FA's and spending enormous amounts of money isn't smart business. This isn't the Yankees, this is the Cubs.
Basically. The futures a wonderful thing.
Spending somebody elses money on the internet to compensate a team going thru a complete over haul isn't really logic. Its more fanboi. Its a rebuild. A redo. A fresh start. Let it play out.