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See below for Dan Graziano story on reactions to Sunday's NFL action, including the Bears' domination of the Buccaneeers.
By the way, I've been seeing a lot of reactions of people saying that Nagy "schemed" receivers open for Trubisky. That's not wrong, but I also wouldn't discount what Trubisky did. There were SEVERAL tough throws Sunday that Trubisky was *perfect* on that were not the result of scheming people open:
-Long pass down each sideline to Tarik Cohen
-The Allen Robinson touchdown
-One of the long passes to Taylor Gabriel
-There were also I few others I don't quite remember at this time.
But let's not completely overreact to Nagy's offense in this game as being **the** reason Trubisky looked good Sunday. Trubisky looked good Sunday because he was good Sunday. Nagy was part of that, but not the whole of that.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24853573/overreact-nfl-2018-week-4-chicago-bears-offense-real
Let's overreact to Week 4 in the NFL: Is the Bears' offense for real?
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8:30 PM CT
Dan Graziano
ESPN Staff Writer
CHICAGO -- Hey, if the football fans in the Windy City want to overreact, who's going to tell them to cut it out? It has been quite a while since the Chicago Bears were fun, and even with the Chicago Cubs back in the playoffs this town is fired up about a 3-1 first-place football team that just put 48 points on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on its way into the bye. Mitchell Trubisky just quadrupled his season touchdown pass total in one delirious afternoon, and if you're not allowed to overreact to that, what's the point of being a fan?
So let's start with the game I got to see in person as part of my Sunday NFL Countdown duties -- a game that was 38-3 at the half and ended 48-10 as Trubisky buried the Bucs' weeklong QB controversy with six touchdown passes of his own against a Tampa Bay team that couldn't do a thing right no matter who was taking the snaps.
Mitchell Trubisky had the best game of his young career, throwing for 354 yards and six TD passes. Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images
The Bears' offense is now as good as their defense
If you're a Bears fan who has been waiting to see the vaunted Matt Nagy offense that lit the league on fire last year in Kansas City, Sunday was your day. Nagy was scheming dudes open and leaning on mismatches with speedsters Tarik Cohen and Taylor Gabriel, and the Tampa Bay defense had no answers. Gabriel scored two touchdowns, including one on a nifty jet-action shovel pass at the goal line. He and Cohen each had seven catches and more than 100 receiving yards as Nagy went away from between-the-tackles running back Jordan Howard and leaned instead on the super-fast dudes he knew the Bucs' defenders couldn't catch. For the first time, Trubisky looked like a quarterback worthy of the 2017 No. 2 overall pick.
Week 4 takeaways: Breakthroughs for Bears, Cowboys
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Graziano's verdict: OVERREACTION. Fun, without a doubt. But the Bucs came into the game 27th in defensive DVOA, are banged up in the secondary and are averaging 34.75 points per game allowed. It's important to understand context. Bears players to whom I spoke about this game said they saw something good coming with Trubisky -- that they believe he has been developing the way they'd hoped he would. But no one here is assuming this is the way it's going to look every week. It takes awhile to master the Andy Reid offense Nagy brought from K.C. Alex Smith wasn't driving a league-leading passing attack until Year 5. One day of mastery doesn't mean everything is hunky-dory. What Bears fans should take from this is excitement and hope that this can be what it looks like, eventually. But the defense -- which, by the way, had another monster game with Khalil Mack wreaking havoc in the backfield -- is what will drive the Bears' NFC North title aspirations for this year at least. "It's like the LeBron effect," Bears cornerback Prince Amukamara told me of the Bears' preseason addition of Mack to an already-strong defense. "He just makes everybody better. When you see greatness like that up close, it just makes everyone else want to be great that much more."
Earl Thomas is right to be angry at the Seahawks
Thomas was playing even though he didn't want to be there -- sitting out practices in protest of the team's refusal to extend his contract or trade him to a team that would. So as he was carted off the field with a broken leg Sunday, he appeared to direct an obscene gesture to the Seattle sideline.
Graziano's verdict: NOT AN OVERREACTION. The next time you hop on Twitter and holler that a guy has a contract and should play, remember Thomas, who could have a very hard time finding a contract that meshes with his hopes at this point. Seattle played hardball with a franchise icon. He should have continued playing hardball with them and held out until they gave him what he wanted. If this is what you get for doing the right thing and showing up to play, why would the next Seahawks player in the same situation do it?
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For the third week in a row, Tennessee won a miracle game -- this time in overtime against the defending Super Bowl champs. And while Weeks 2 and 3 were mishmash games with their offense not at full strength, this was a 26-point, 397-yard, fourth-down-converting answer to all the Mariota doubters out there.
Graziano's verdict: NOT AN OVERREACTION. Hey, the AFC isn't all that great. The Patriots and Steelers have looked wobbly. The Chiefs can't keep up what they're doing. The Jaguars can't beat the Titans. Why not this bunch? They just won two straight games against 2017 playoff teams and they have only two more of those left -- home against the Patriots in November and at Jacksonville in December. The hard part of the 2018 season for the Titans may already be over, and they're 3-1.
Koetter says everyone should be fired, starting with himBuccaneers head coach Dirk Koetter says that everyone should be fired after the Bucs' 48-10 loss to the Bears, starting with him.
Dirk Koetter is right: He should be fired
The Bucs' coach said in his postgame media conference that, based on Sunday's performance, the Bucs should fire everyone including him. It may not have been Jim Mora Sr.'s "Playoffs!?" or Dennis Green's "We let 'em off the hook!" but it was a pretty startling media conference.
Graziano's verdict: OVERREACTION. Koetter's seat is among the hottest in the league, and a losing season may well cost him his job. But a team that was expected to be 1-3 or 0-4 at this point is 2-2 and has, for most of the season, looked very good on offense, which is Koetter's side of the ball. It's too soon to pull the plug. At least give him the rest of the year with Jameis Winston under center.
The Eagles will miss the playoffs
The defending champs are 2-2 and have given up almost as many points (81) as they've scored (82). Their wins were against the 1-3 Falcons and the 1-3 Colts, by six and four points, respectively. They couldn't keep Carson Wentz upright Sunday. They have not looked like themselves.
Graziano's verdict: NOT AN OVERREACTION. The Eagles absolutely could make the playoffs, and they should. They didn't forget how to play, and Doug Pederson didn't forget how to coach. But it's not an overreaction to be worried here. Washington looks better than expected. The Cowboys may be getting right. The NFC East hasn't had a repeat champion since 2003-04, and it's tough to see that division putting two teams in the playoffs this year. The Eagles have had terrible injury luck so far and need to look a lot better if we're to believe they can repeat.
By the way, I've been seeing a lot of reactions of people saying that Nagy "schemed" receivers open for Trubisky. That's not wrong, but I also wouldn't discount what Trubisky did. There were SEVERAL tough throws Sunday that Trubisky was *perfect* on that were not the result of scheming people open:
-Long pass down each sideline to Tarik Cohen
-The Allen Robinson touchdown
-One of the long passes to Taylor Gabriel
-There were also I few others I don't quite remember at this time.
But let's not completely overreact to Nagy's offense in this game as being **the** reason Trubisky looked good Sunday. Trubisky looked good Sunday because he was good Sunday. Nagy was part of that, but not the whole of that.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/24853573/overreact-nfl-2018-week-4-chicago-bears-offense-real
Let's overreact to Week 4 in the NFL: Is the Bears' offense for real?
play
8:30 PM CT
Dan Graziano
ESPN Staff Writer
CHICAGO -- Hey, if the football fans in the Windy City want to overreact, who's going to tell them to cut it out? It has been quite a while since the Chicago Bears were fun, and even with the Chicago Cubs back in the playoffs this town is fired up about a 3-1 first-place football team that just put 48 points on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers on its way into the bye. Mitchell Trubisky just quadrupled his season touchdown pass total in one delirious afternoon, and if you're not allowed to overreact to that, what's the point of being a fan?
So let's start with the game I got to see in person as part of my Sunday NFL Countdown duties -- a game that was 38-3 at the half and ended 48-10 as Trubisky buried the Bucs' weeklong QB controversy with six touchdown passes of his own against a Tampa Bay team that couldn't do a thing right no matter who was taking the snaps.
Mitchell Trubisky had the best game of his young career, throwing for 354 yards and six TD passes. Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images
The Bears' offense is now as good as their defense
If you're a Bears fan who has been waiting to see the vaunted Matt Nagy offense that lit the league on fire last year in Kansas City, Sunday was your day. Nagy was scheming dudes open and leaning on mismatches with speedsters Tarik Cohen and Taylor Gabriel, and the Tampa Bay defense had no answers. Gabriel scored two touchdowns, including one on a nifty jet-action shovel pass at the goal line. He and Cohen each had seven catches and more than 100 receiving yards as Nagy went away from between-the-tackles running back Jordan Howard and leaned instead on the super-fast dudes he knew the Bucs' defenders couldn't catch. For the first time, Trubisky looked like a quarterback worthy of the 2017 No. 2 overall pick.
Week 4 takeaways: Breakthroughs for Bears, Cowboys
The Bears cooked up 48 points against the Bucs, while the Cowboys fought to a last-second win over the Lions. NFL Nation looks at Week 4.
Week 4 fantasy football winners and losers
Graziano's verdict: OVERREACTION. Fun, without a doubt. But the Bucs came into the game 27th in defensive DVOA, are banged up in the secondary and are averaging 34.75 points per game allowed. It's important to understand context. Bears players to whom I spoke about this game said they saw something good coming with Trubisky -- that they believe he has been developing the way they'd hoped he would. But no one here is assuming this is the way it's going to look every week. It takes awhile to master the Andy Reid offense Nagy brought from K.C. Alex Smith wasn't driving a league-leading passing attack until Year 5. One day of mastery doesn't mean everything is hunky-dory. What Bears fans should take from this is excitement and hope that this can be what it looks like, eventually. But the defense -- which, by the way, had another monster game with Khalil Mack wreaking havoc in the backfield -- is what will drive the Bears' NFC North title aspirations for this year at least. "It's like the LeBron effect," Bears cornerback Prince Amukamara told me of the Bears' preseason addition of Mack to an already-strong defense. "He just makes everybody better. When you see greatness like that up close, it just makes everyone else want to be great that much more."
Earl Thomas is right to be angry at the Seahawks
Thomas was playing even though he didn't want to be there -- sitting out practices in protest of the team's refusal to extend his contract or trade him to a team that would. So as he was carted off the field with a broken leg Sunday, he appeared to direct an obscene gesture to the Seattle sideline.
Graziano's verdict: NOT AN OVERREACTION. The next time you hop on Twitter and holler that a guy has a contract and should play, remember Thomas, who could have a very hard time finding a contract that meshes with his hopes at this point. Seattle played hardball with a franchise icon. He should have continued playing hardball with them and held out until they gave him what he wanted. If this is what you get for doing the right thing and showing up to play, why would the next Seahawks player in the same situation do it?
The Titans are going to the Super Bowl
NFL scores, standings and more
Everything you need this week:
• Scores, highlights and more »
• Full schedule » | Full standings »
• Weekly stats leaders »
• Injuries tracker: Who's in, out »
More NFL coverage »
For the third week in a row, Tennessee won a miracle game -- this time in overtime against the defending Super Bowl champs. And while Weeks 2 and 3 were mishmash games with their offense not at full strength, this was a 26-point, 397-yard, fourth-down-converting answer to all the Mariota doubters out there.
Graziano's verdict: NOT AN OVERREACTION. Hey, the AFC isn't all that great. The Patriots and Steelers have looked wobbly. The Chiefs can't keep up what they're doing. The Jaguars can't beat the Titans. Why not this bunch? They just won two straight games against 2017 playoff teams and they have only two more of those left -- home against the Patriots in November and at Jacksonville in December. The hard part of the 2018 season for the Titans may already be over, and they're 3-1.
Koetter says everyone should be fired, starting with himBuccaneers head coach Dirk Koetter says that everyone should be fired after the Bucs' 48-10 loss to the Bears, starting with him.
Dirk Koetter is right: He should be fired
The Bucs' coach said in his postgame media conference that, based on Sunday's performance, the Bucs should fire everyone including him. It may not have been Jim Mora Sr.'s "Playoffs!?" or Dennis Green's "We let 'em off the hook!" but it was a pretty startling media conference.
Graziano's verdict: OVERREACTION. Koetter's seat is among the hottest in the league, and a losing season may well cost him his job. But a team that was expected to be 1-3 or 0-4 at this point is 2-2 and has, for most of the season, looked very good on offense, which is Koetter's side of the ball. It's too soon to pull the plug. At least give him the rest of the year with Jameis Winston under center.
The Eagles will miss the playoffs
The defending champs are 2-2 and have given up almost as many points (81) as they've scored (82). Their wins were against the 1-3 Falcons and the 1-3 Colts, by six and four points, respectively. They couldn't keep Carson Wentz upright Sunday. They have not looked like themselves.
Graziano's verdict: NOT AN OVERREACTION. The Eagles absolutely could make the playoffs, and they should. They didn't forget how to play, and Doug Pederson didn't forget how to coach. But it's not an overreaction to be worried here. Washington looks better than expected. The Cowboys may be getting right. The NFC East hasn't had a repeat champion since 2003-04, and it's tough to see that division putting two teams in the playoffs this year. The Eagles have had terrible injury luck so far and need to look a lot better if we're to believe they can repeat.
