deng is a significantly better asset than hinrich

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his contract isn't that bad for what he does. 18ppg, great off ball movement, rebounds, great midrange jumper, and he's still 24.
he's a decent scoring option, his talents aren't properly utilized on this team.
he's a good man defender. he cant stay infront of his guy.
he's a significantly better rebounder.

hinrich is/was terrible. he's no longer on the team, so i have no problem bashing him. he sucks. (i'm sorry clonetrooper.) Suggesting that we traded the wrong guy, is up there with we should have kept nocioni.
 

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The only reason that moving Deng might have been better is the question of whether he can play on the same team as LeBron. If we don't get LeBron, or if we feel Deng can play a fair bit of PF, then as a player I'd rather have Deng for sure.

Hinrich as an expiring next year is an interesting scenario though, so I can see the logic of holding on to him for another year. I just don't think we could have moved Deng for pure cap space.

I think Hinrich makes sense for the Wizards in a similar role he had with Rose. A rookie PG will probably be bad defensively, get a vet defender next to him who is proven to be someone who will work with your young guy and isn't going to have ego issues. Sure he's overpaid, but with two years left they can use him as an expiring next year. I don't think they're as dumb as people are making out.
 

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Kirk is a better assest. Thats why he was moved, thats why he will be more valuable next year. No one wants to pay Deng 4/50.
 

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Yes, I think it's clear from the content of the thread the title should be "better player" not "better asset".
 
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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

i think deng is tradable. he's a poor fit with rose, and he's an even worse fit with wall. kevin seaphin?
 
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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

if they can move hinrich, i think they can move deng. if deng sucks it up , he'd only be make 2 million more than hinrich.
 
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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

wait, a better way to put it, if deng played as badly as hinrich, he'd be making 2 million more than him.
 

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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

Really? I think they'd rather get Deng off the books. Thats a lot of money when they are rumored to be getting Bron.
 

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if they can move hinrich, i think they can move deng. if deng sucks it up , he'd only be make 2 million more than hinrich.
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Moving him and moving him for pure cap space like they've done with Hinrich are two different things. I'm sure they can move Deng, it's just a matter of what else we have to give and/or what else we take back.
 
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Kirk is a better assest. Thats why he was moved, thats why he will be more valuable next year. No one wants to pay Deng 4/50.
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Winner.

Is Deng the better player? Probably, thus why he's paid more. Hey on the even brighter side, no more Hinrich means no more Fred rants. However, I do get the feeling that whenever Hinrich has a really bad game, Fred with take a few quick stabs at him...or many quick stabs at him. Though if we do get 2 max FA's, who the heck cares about Hinrich?
 
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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

screw that, lets trade for gordon and sign craig hodges.
 
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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

i guess this is mostly a response to the bullseye episode.

deng's conract really isn't as bad as people make it out to be. If he doesn't perform, he wont be making a lot of cash. Furthermore look who we're shopping deng for Gortat/pietrus MAYBE JJ.

hey, let's compare hinrich to deng, we had to trade a draft pick to get rid of hinrich. After doing so, the entire world criticized the wizards for taking on the player. for a bench player hinrich is overpaid. Deng is paid a decent salary for a starting 3. 18ppg and 7-8 rebounds. if he doesnt perform he'll be making 10 million rather than 12. i like that contract.

however i never advocated keeping deng. i want him gone just as badly as everyone else. i just think we'll be able to pull it off.
 
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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

he's a decent scoring option, his talents aren't properly utilized on this team.
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Exactly what is it that Deng does that is not properly utilized on the Bulls?
 
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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

he's a slasher that doesnt have any lanes open. the paint is crowded against this bulls team. also rose isn't great at finding his teammates in spots where they can score. this is his second year in the league, so i expect him to get better at that.
 

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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

pinkizdead, why do you think Deng will make less based on performance? He is guaranteed the 4/50+. He just won't hit is bonuses unless they are team based. We don't know what they are.

Deng also wouldn't put up 18 and 8 on any other team. He wouldn't be a #2 option anywhere else and wouldn't have played as many minutes because JJ sucked.
 
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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

i'm not sure, i read something about it in article. i'll look it up.
 

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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

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i'm not sure, i read something about it in article. i'll look it up.
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Well 30% of his money is defered and will likely cost JR half as much if he buys an annuity or something but Deng will count full on the cap for at least 4/50+. He has performance bonuses that could push his total contact to 6/80+ but he isn't likely;y to hit those.
 

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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

Yeah, pretty sure Deng has incentives in his contract that are considered unlikely to be met so aren't counted in his cap value. He'll get payed more if he plays really well, not get paid less if he plays really badly.
 
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Re:deng is a significantly better asset than hinri

rats. i was hoping his contract was better than that. well hopefully the clippers still want him.
 
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