Eberflus Legacy

[Weebey Brice]

Let’s be honest, Eberflus is putting together the kind of tenure that we’ll be talking about for generations. It’s the kind of incompetence we see once in a lifetime. It honestly hilarious just thinking about it.

 

[KittiesKorner]

You mean like Phil Emery and Ryan Pace being demoted to being Falcons scouts at the same time? I would love to be in that breakfast room. How about Trestman who popped up in some graphic as a fucking Chargers 'offensive assistant'?

 

[PhilEBuster]

Let’s be honest, Eberflus is putting together the kind of tenure that we’ll be talking about for generations. It’s the kind of incompetence we see once in a lifetime. It honestly hilarious just thinking about it.

It’s sad that it’s come to this. As a person, I’m sure Eberflus is a good man, but he just can’t do this job. Normal, astute franchii (pl. Latin) take action to fire coaches before complete collapse. But the Bears aren’t normal. The gods are speaking now, as the Bears and Eberflus in particular continue to find new, improbable ways to lose. This is viral and a national embarrassment know. I feel bad for him, but he has to go tonight . . .

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

You mean like Phil Emery and Ryan Pace being demoted to being Falcons scouts at the same time? I would love to be in that breakfast room. How about Trestman who popped up in some graphic as a fucking Chargers 'offensive assistant'?

Is this true?

 

[KittiesKorner]

Is this true?

I realized that I may have misspun it by making it sound like they got demoted at the same time so **** me, but yes, they both matriculated from being gms for the bears to being falcons scouts, but mea culpa, not at the same time:

Phil Emery (American football) - Wikipedia

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Ryan Pace - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Gustavus Adolphus]

I realized that I may have misspun it by making it sound like they got demoted at the same time so **** me, but yes, they both matriculated from being gms for the bears to being falcons scouts, but mea culpa, not at the same time:

Phil Emery (American football) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

I misread that first post. I know Pace went back to Player Personnel Director, but I thought you meant he got demoted down to an area scout, or whatever.

 

[wklink]

Eberflus is just a symptom of the problem. Getting rid of him won't solve the problem. Yes he needs to go but that is just putting a bandaid on the bigger issue.

Eberflus, Nagy, Trestman, even Fox and to a lesser degree Lovie have all picked because they were 'nice' coaches. They were picked precisely because they weren't going to cause any controversy for the McCaskey organization. I call it the Mike Ditka effect.

Ditka was brash. He was bold. He was outspoken. And sometimes he embarrassed the organization. While he was winning there wasn't much the McCaskeys could do while he was winning games and taking the team to the playoffs but once he became vulnerable (right or wrong) he was gone. He was never a McCaskey hire and they wanted someone that wouldn't be controversial. That is part of the reason why coaches hired afterwards are so milquetoast. Just like Hard Knocks, nothing can be done to make the name of the Bears, and the McCaskey family in particular, look bad.

So we will get rid of Eberflus and get another coach that says the right things, gives the impression of knowledge and in the end the team will be just as middle of the road to out and out lousy as it has been. The goal is to protect the brand, not excel on the field. If that happens great but optics will always trump competence. We may get the occasional winning season but no Alpha style coach will want to work with this organization.

 

[KittiesKorner]

I misread that first post. I know Pace went back to Player Personnel Director, but I thought you meant he got demoted down to an area scout, or whatever.

I edited my post but just meant both he and emery ended up as NOT gms on the falcons.

That said, who’s laughing now? Not the Bears. Falcons are in contention

 

[ijustposthere]

 

[bamainatlanta]

I edited my post but just meant both he and emery ended up as NOT gms on the falcons.

That said, who’s laughing now? Not the Bears. Falcons are in contention

Falcons are contending for a division title in a very very awful division. They just lost by 30 to the Broncos, they are just a team that has zero hope of winning a SB.

 

[KittiesKorner]

Falcons are contending for a division title in a very very awful division. They just lost by 30 to the Broncos, they are just a team that has zero hope of winning a SB.

I was just qualifying my point that two of our former gms subsequently took demotions with the falcons

 

[KittiesKorner]

Above is fact, not a blog that could have been somewhere else

 

[Heidenlarm]

I was just qualifying my point that two of our former gms subsequently took demotions with the falcons

Don't argue with stupid dude.

 

[KittiesKorner]

I think @bamainatlanta is good people. I like Rosie Perez. I’ve met her. Can we all just #healtogether ?

 

[Joker85]

It’s sad that it’s come to this. As a person, I’m sure Eberflus is a good man, but he just can’t do this job. Normal, astute franchii (pl. Latin) take action to fire coaches before complete collapse. But the Bears aren’t normal. The gods are speaking now, as the Bears and Eberflus in particular continue to find new, improbable ways to lose. This is viral and a national embarrassment know. I feel bad for him, but he has to go tonight . . .

Which is funny because by trying to save these bums the Bears only end up completely ruining their careers in the long run. Any normal franchise would have fired Eberflus last year. He was bad sure, but he probably could have went back and found another coordinator job eventually. He's now become such a national laughing stock this year that no team will be able to hire him for any serious position probably forever. Just bringing Eberflus onto your squad will be a fireable offense as far as fans are concerned.

The Bears are not only too stupid to look out for our franchise's reputation, but they are too stupid to even save these coaches from themselves. All while patting themselves on the back at how wise and temperate they are.

 

[ILoveDick]

Which is funny because by trying to save these bums the Bears only end up completely ruining their careers in the long run. Any normal franchise would have fired Eberflus last year. He was bad sure, but he probably could have went back and found another coordinator job eventually. He's now become such a national laughing stock this year that no team will be able to hire him for any serious position probably forever. Just bringing Eberflus onto your squad will be a fireable offense as far as fans are concerned.

The Bears are not only too stupid to look out for our franchise's reputation, but they are too stupid to even save these coaches from themselves. All while patting themselves on the back at how wise and temperate they are.

I never really thought of if that way. Outside of Lovie many of these guys never get high-profile jobs again.

And let's be honest, Matt Nagy was simply allowed to come back home by his dad, Andy Reid.

 

[TL1961]

My biggest concern a year ago was simply churning through coaches and the look that it has two people outside the organization.

I think there’s some legitimate concern that organizations that are churning through coaches all the time will stop being able to attract decent candidates.

And flus was being evaluated based on his two-year record when the first year was clearly a tank year, so it seemed a little unfair to hang that first year record on him.

But that’s not the way to look at it.

But the way to properly look at it is not. “is it fair“ or does he “deserve to be fired“.
The way to look at it is simply “can we win with this guy? Can we get to a championship? Is this the guy that can win it for us?”

If I look back at situations where a Chicago team fired a coach without ever having reached the point of “this guy needs to be fired”, but rather were determining “he’s not the guy to win a championship”, the following come to mind:

The Bulls surprised us by letting Doug Collins go and hiring his assistant Phil Jackson.

The Cubs fired poor Rick Renteria (many felt unfairly) and hired Joe Maddon.

The Blackhawks fired Denis Savard very very early in a season and hired coach Q.

Lesson learned.

When you know you don’t have the right guy, move on. You don’t have to wait until he’s so bad that he “deserves to be fired“.

 

[PrideisBears]

Eberflus is just a symptom of the problem. Getting rid of him won't solve the problem. Yes he needs to go but that is just putting a bandaid on the bigger issue.

Eberflus, Nagy, Trestman, even Fox and to a lesser degree Lovie have all picked because they were 'nice' coaches. They were picked precisely because they weren't going to cause any controversy for the McCaskey organization. I call it the Mike Ditka effect.

Ditka was brash. He was bold. He was outspoken. And sometimes he embarrassed the organization. While he was winning there wasn't much the McCaskeys could do while he was winning games and taking the team to the playoffs but once he became vulnerable (right or wrong) he was gone. He was never a McCaskey hire and they wanted someone that wouldn't be controversial. That is part of the reason why coaches hired afterwards are so milquetoast. Just like Hard Knocks, nothing can be done to make the name of the Bears, and the McCaskey family in particular, look bad.

So we will get rid of Eberflus and get another coach that says the right things, gives the impression of knowledge and in the end the team will be just as middle of the road to out and out lousy as it has been. The goal is to protect the brand, not excel on the field. If that happens great but optics will always trump competence. We may get the occasional winning season but no Alpha style coach will want to work with this organization.

Shut up nerd

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

For coaches who were with their teams for more than 2 years, he has to be up there with the worst head coaches of all time. It's like Hue Jackson, Matt Patricia, and Matt Eberflus, in no particular order.

 

[UChiLAbear]

You mean like Phil Emery and Ryan Pace being demoted to being Falcons scouts at the same time? I would love to be in that breakfast room. How about Trestman who popped up in some graphic as a fucking Chargers 'offensive assistant'?

That graphic with Trestman shocked me....I thought he was out of the league forever....