Edwin Jackson

[chibears55]

Since the cubs invested 4 yrs and 52 Mil into Edwin jackson :facepalm:, we can only hope that he soon can get it together and start pitching somewhat decent.

lets just hope that today being his best start of the year ( 7IP 4H 1 BB 8 K ), was the first baby step taken to having a good season from here on out.

 

[CSF77]

Talk about it when he gets his ERA under 5.

 

[X]

Talk about it when he gets his ERA under 5.

After a few years in the league, you typically are what you are. I'd imagine he'll end the season w/ an ERA around 4.5...right around his career average. :shrug:

 

[CSF77]

After a few years in the league, you typically are what you are. I'd imagine he'll end the season w/ an ERA around 4.5...right around his career average. :shrug:

I wouldn't have signed him on his career 1.44 WHIP. almost 1.5 guys get on base per inning on him. Not good numbers to invest into.

As a comparison: Garza Career 1.29 WHIP, Shark: 1.31 WHIP, Wood: 1.26 WHIP, Feldman (playing way better then his avg): 1.40 1.17 now., Baker 1.26 career WHIP

So again still wondering why did they sign much less invest years into Jackson.

 

[CSF77]

Oh, Villanueva career 1.28 WHIP...see a trend. keep them off base and you have a better chance at success.

 

[chibears55]

Talk about it when he gets his ERA under 5

talk about what ? just saying that since their invested in him for 4 yrs, and he just made his best start of the year, as fans we should hope that this is the start of good things from him going forward.

After a few years in the league, you typically are what you are. I'd imagine he'll end the season w/ an ERA around 4.5...right around his career average.

seeing that his ERA is at 6.2 after 11 starts, if he ends up with an ERA near 4.5 it would only mean he has had some excellent starts in his final 20 starts..
thats what im saying, lets hope this is his first start of many good ones to end the year..

 

[chibears55]

So again still wondering why did they sign much less invest years into Jackson.

thats the question of the year.. i could see 2 yrs with hope to flip if he had a good start or even to hold until 2014 deadline but 4 ?

 

[CSF77]

Looking over some advanced metrics:

Run support per game: based off of 27 puts and while in there how much support they got.

Garza: 5.8
Feldman: 5.1
Villanueva: 4.5
League avg: 4.1
Jackson: 3.9
Wood: 3.7
Shark: 3.2

Sooo this tellss me:

Shark has been hard luck.
Wood has also but is proving he is legit.
Jackson almost league avg. So should be at .500. Other words he is worse than league avg pitcher.
Feldman has been getting plenty of run support.
Garza not enough data.


BTW: Cubs at 4.1 league avg at 4.1. go figure.

 

[CSF77]

Wood has also but is proving he is legit.

any one want to argue it he has 11 out of 12 Quality starts. 2.65 ERA, 1.01 WHIP 3.1 BB/9 6.5 SO/9. 6.1 H/9

Can argue it all day but it would just be a agenda push with no facts to back it.

 

[The Bandit]

I'm fairly confident he will turn it around, it looks like a bad deal but they basically had to make some move to keep them somewhat competitive this year.

 

[chibears55]

edwin jackson came back with his 2nd good start in a row..

6 ip 5 hits 1 er 3 BB 7 Ks

continuing to take baby steps, lets hope he continues..

 

[CSF77]

edwin jackson came back with his 2nd good start in a row..

6 ip 5 hits 1 er 3 BB 7 Ks

continuing to take baby steps, lets hope he continues..

Closer to what his talent level should be. Mets are push overs though. Wouldn't get excited until he beats a quality team who's starter puts up a quality game. Not Marcum who is at 0-8 with a 5.43 ERA.

But at least it is better then watching him suck it up.

 

[chibears55]

Wouldn't get excited until he beats a quality team who's starter puts up a quality game.

he has beaten the top 2 teams in NL in his last 2 starts given up just 1 ER in 12.2 IP 1 BB and 11 Ks

after a 1 - 8 start he had his best start against the pirates on june 9th going 7 ip 1 ER, and i started this thread..

since june 9th
7 GS 5 wins 2 losses 34.2 IP 16 ER 11 BB 31 Ks 5 QS

can only hope he stays on track when they start the 2nd half next week...

 

[dabears253313]

Good for EJ

 

[chibears55]

ESPN broke down – using PitchF/X data – the ten pitchers with the best “stuff” in baseball. Number one (Matt Harvey) and number four (Jeff Samardzija) probably don’t surprise you, but how about number ten … it’s Edwin Jackson. When Jackson’s results stabilize and match what his peripherals have been telling us all year, I’m not going to beat my chest and say “I told you so” (though I did), but only because lots of people have been saying the same thing. Jackson is better, and has been better, than a 5+ ERA suggests. He might not always be the guy that dismantled the Cardinals last night, but he might be closer to that guy than he is to a guy that you decry as a “bust” after two months of pitching into a four-year contract.