Fans Want the Kids to Play, but Do Not Want a Rebuild. Time to Make Up Your Minds

Anno Catuli

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Yesterday, after Aramis Ramirez declared that he would be filing for free agency, I wrote up a blog which voiced my opinion that the Chicago Cubs should now begin the rebuilding process. Some fans agreed with the thought process, while others completely disagreed. This is probably the most confusing situation for most Cubs fans to be in, as a majority of them are completely contradicting themselves when saying they do not want to sit through a rebuilding phase.

For starters, there is a portion of Cub fans who have strong feelings against the Cubs, a big market team, going through a rebuilding phase. They do not believe that a team in a major market should ever have to rebuild, and be able to spend the money needed in order to contend. This is very true to a point, that would be what is expected from a team in one of the three biggest markets in the country. The problem comes into play, is that several fans of the Cubs want the team to bench, trade or cut several of the current veterans on the team to play various kids.

You will not go a single day without hearing at least one fan begging Cubs management to trade Alfonso Soriano or to just outright cut him. They beg and plead for the Cubs to give more playing time to both Tony Campana and Tyler Colvin. This situation will not take place unless Soriano is off the team, or at very least regulated to bench duty.

Fans also want to see Bryan LaHair get more playing time, if they want to see Campana and Colvin more the only likely position for him to play would be at first base. You could put LaHair in one of the corner spots, and either Covin or Campana in center, but I feel that would be counter productive. No one wants to see Colvin playing center field again, last time he was out there was a disaster. You could put Campana in center, but if you want him to make the team next year, you have to think about who you would rather have playing center field, him or Brett Jackson. No offense to the scrappy Campana, but I would rather have Jackson roaming centerfield and let Campy learn to play the corner. That means Byrd would remain in center leaving LaHair the odd man out, unless he plays first base. With LaHair at first base, that would result in the benching of Carlos Pena. He can not play third base so he would also be out of a job.

Then we have the problem of third base. Several fans want Ramirez back, while others do not want to waste the money on him since he rarely shows up in April and only occasionally comes to play in May. This leads up to who replaces him? There are no good free agent third baseman out there this off season or next, so that would lead to another kid playing third.

You see the problem yet? To me, a vast majority of fans can not make up their minds as far as what they want. They want to see the Cubs play the kids, but they also do not want the Cubs to go into a full rebuild mode. So I propose a question to all the fans out their who take the time to read my blogs.

Do you want the Cubs to ditch the veterans and play the kids to see what they have, or do you want the Cubs to go out and buy players to help them contend? You can not really have things both ways. Sure, you can do a mix of kids and veterans, but you would then have to decide which kids you want to see. Fans will have to chose between the overflowing population of young outfielders and which kids they really want to see.

Which kids do you want to see playing, and which are you willing to write off? From all of the calls for playing time I have seen on my Facebook page (Anno Catuli | Facebook) fans want to see a team filled with kids, but they do not want a rebuilding phase.

Confused yet? So am I.
 

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Well done boss.
 

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Guys playing mostly young guys isn't rebuilding. So many people don't realize many our young guys are better then our vets. Jesus christ you don't need big names to be a good team. A la the Tampa Rays. We have thew core in place, and you add a legit bat to this lineup and a legit GM you have yourself a playoff team. We need another solid starter and a big bat more then anything for this team going forward. Fielder (if we land him), Castro, Lahair, Colvin, Campana, Lehamieau, barney, etc. Now that right there will be a very solid hitting team. Garza, dempster, cashner, solid starter to me is good enuf for a playoff team. Stop undervaluing young guys and overvaluing guys like aram who make 17 mill a year (for example) and aren't worth a shit. I wanna see a young squad. That is the best chance of us winning. I don;t wanna go in full detail and waste my time with the people who will counter this...I will not even make another post regarding this.
 

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Dare I ask? Which "young guys" right now are better than the veterans? I will assume that Brett Jackson is the obvious choice, but he's not on the roster at the moment.
 

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Rebuild now.
 

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I love when people say that a guy is a waste of money but give no examples of a young guy that actually offers better production.
 

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I love when people say that a guy is a waste of money but give no examples of a young guy that actually offers better production.

Too much effort.
 

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I love when people say that a guy is a waste of money but give no examples of a young guy that actually offers better production.

depends on the context and amount of money thats being given for that player
 

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I either want the Cubs to spend money to win now OR go totally young. Here would be my lineups for both ways i would do it

1: Competiting

Jackson CF (trade Byrd for specs and to save 6.5 mil)
Castro SS
Fielder 1B
A-Ram 3B
Kubel RF
Sori LF
Soto C
Johnson 2B

SP1: Wilson
SP2: Garza
SP3: Demp
SP4: Wells
SP5: Cashner

2: total rebuilding:
Campana CF
Jackson LF
Castro SS
LaHair 1B
Colvin RF
Castillo C
Vitters 3B
LeMaiuh 2B

SP1: Garza
SP2: Wells
SP3: Cashner
SP4: Coleman
SP5: McNutt
 

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I'd actually leave Jackson in CF to develop, then have Campana be on the bench as a pinch-runner in favor of some other prospect in LF. Might as well let Lou Montanez play hahahaha.
 

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If the Cubs are going to rebuild... why did we acquire Matt Garza? If we were going to rebuild, I feel that we wouldn't have gotten Garza. Garza was a move looking ahead to the future, not a move for 2011.
 

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I either want the Cubs to spend money to win now OR go totally young. Here would be my lineups for both ways i would do it

1: Competiting

Jackson CF (trade Byrd for specs and to save 6.5 mil)
Castro SS
Fielder 1B
A-Ram 3B
Kubel RF
Sori LF
Soto C
Johnson 2B

SP1: Wilson
SP2: Garza
SP3: Demp
SP4: Wells
SP5: Cashner

2: total rebuilding:
Campana CF
Jackson LF
Castro SS
LaHair 1B
Colvin RF
Castillo C
Vitters 3B
LeMaiuh 2B

SP1: Garza
SP2: Wells
SP3: Cashner
SP4: Coleman
SP5: McNutt
I'll take what's behind door number 1
 

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Yeah door number 1 looks more attractive to me. Rebuilding is not the way to go.
 

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Yeah door number 1 looks more attractive to me. Rebuilding is not the way to go.

Why?, Cubs have been re-building since WW1...what's another few years of waiting gonna hurt?.

Easy for me to say, I gave up after 30+ years...got tired of watching shitty baseball.
 

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If the Cubs are going to rebuild... why did we acquire Matt Garza? If we were going to rebuild, I feel that we wouldn't have gotten Garza. Garza was a move looking ahead to the future, not a move for 2011.

because the idiot Jim Henry did it. But honestly we couldn't compete with lineup #1 if our pitchers still suck.


I would take lineup #2 and the best pitchers over lineup #1
 
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Anno Catuli

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If the Cubs are going to rebuild... why did we acquire Matt Garza? If we were going to rebuild, I feel that we wouldn't have gotten Garza. Garza was a move looking ahead to the future, not a move for 2011.

Because Hendry was not trying to rebuild when he made that deal. BUT Garza is still young and could be part of a good rebuilding pitching staff
 

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