Film Work: Thomas

[Fred]

You can now download every one of the Bulls playoff games on iTunes. I've been watching all of them over again. I put several holes in the drywall after watching those final minutes of Game 2.

Now that here's a play from Game 4, Quarter 2, with Tyrus just after he grabbed a defensive rebound:

http://blog.chicagobullseye.com/2009/05/21/chicagobullseye_2009521211426flv.aspx

This is what irritates me the most about Thomas. His strength should be his athleticism and speed. He should run circles around every power forward in the league. Instead, I constantly catch him playing from free throw line to free throw line (In this case, not even that.) It's plays like this that Skiles referred to in his infamous quote, "We ask him to sprint the floor.." And in my opinion, plays like this are the reason the Bulls are shopping him so aggresively.

Tyrus has world class athletic talent. Someone has to get through to him on this, or he'll never realize his potential.

 

[Dpauley23]

You do realize thats where he is suppose to in the offense right? I do agree though he doesn't hustle enough

 

[Newskoolbulls]

Fred wrote:

You can now download every one of the Bulls playoff games on iTunes. I've been watching all of them over again. I put several holes in the drywall after watching those final minutes of Game 2.

Now that Here's a play from Game 4, Quarter 2, with Tyrus just after he grabbed a defensive rebound:

http://blog.chicagobullseye.com/2009/05/21/chicagobullseye_2009521211426flv.aspx

This is what irritates me the most about Thomas. His strength should be his athleticism and speed. He should run circles around every power forward in the league. Instead, I constantly catch him playing from free throw line to free throw line (In this case, not even that.) It's plays like this that Skiles referred to in his infamous quote, "We ask him to sprint the floor.." And in my opinion, plays like this are the reason the Bulls are shopping him so aggresively.

Tyrus has world class athletic talent. Someone has to get through to him on this, or he'll never realize his potential.

Cool thanks. As for Tyrus he could be so special but the laziness is unbearable to watch. I could only imagine how he acts in practice.

 

[Fred]

Dpauley23 wrote:

You do realize thats where he is suppose to in the offense right? I do agree though he doesn't hustle enough

He didn't cross half court. I hope that the offense would at least have him past midcourt.

His speed is suppossed to be his strength. He starts the frame almost even with Miller. Why is Brad Miller running the court, and Tyrus isn't. There are several examples like this?

Keep in mind, it's only the 2nd quarter. He can't be tired. There is no excuse for it.

 

[charity stripe]

I remember one radio interview where Swirsky was talking about how hard of a worker Tyrus is. He comes to practice early, he comes back to the Berto Center late at night and practices his jump shot. He said Tyrus was the first one to arrive before games to work on his shooting.

Taking all that into account, it is befuddling why he can't play hard during the games for 40 minutes.

He just doesn't get it mentally.

 

[SouL EateR]

ooo More Tyrus bashing..goooodie

 

[Fred]

Newskoolbulls wrote:

Cool thanks. As for Tyrus he could be so special but the laziness is unbearable to watch. I could only imagine how he acts in practice.

Believe it or not, KC Johnson said that he gets to practice early. He apparently has some pretty good practice habits, and I think it's shown in his improved shooting. I just want him to be a better player, and he can be, if he just utilized his speed and athleticism to run the court.

 

[Newskoolbulls]

Fred wrote:

Newskoolbulls wrote:

Cool thanks. As for Tyrus he could be so special but the laziness is unbearable to watch. I could only imagine how he acts in practice.

Believe it or not, KC Johnson said that he gets to practice early. He apparently has some pretty good practice habits, and I think it's shown in his improved shooting. I just want him to be a better player, and he can be, if he just utilized his speed and athleticism to run the court.

If he is hustling in practice and sprinting I dont understand why he doesnt do it in games, he could add an extra 6-8 pts a game on breaks with his speed.

 

[Fred]

charity stripe wrote:

I remember one radio interview where Swirsky was talking about how hard of a worker Tyrus is. He comes to practice early, he comes back to the Berto Center late at night and practices his jump shot. He said Tyrus was the first one to arrive before games to work on his shooting.

Agreed. KC said the same thing. But a lot of people were asking why he wasn't playing more in this series, and it's because of plays like this.

After watching these games over again, 3 things really stuck out:

a. Tyrus was outplayed badly in this series after game 1. Offensively and defensively. Big Baby killed us.

b. Salmons overall had a bad series offensively. The Celtics focused all of their double teams on Gordon and Rose...we needed another guy to make them pay for it, and John really only punished the Celtics for their double teams in Game 6.

c. The NBA should ask their officials to start calling moving screens

 

[Newskoolbulls]

Fred wrote:

charity stripe wrote:

I remember one radio interview where Swirsky was talking about how hard of a worker Tyrus is. He comes to practice early, he comes back to the Berto Center late at night and practices his jump shot. He said Tyrus was the first one to arrive before games to work on his shooting.

Agreed. KC said the same thing. But a lot of people were asking why he wasn't playing more in this series, and it's because of plays like this.

After watching these games over again, 3 things really stuck out:

a. Tyrus was outplayed badly in this series after game 1. Offensively and defensively. Big Baby killed us.

b. Salmons overall had a bad series offensively. The Celtics focused all of their double teams on Gordon and Rose...we needed another guy to make them pay for it, and John really only punished the Celtics for their double teams in Game 6.

c. The NBA should ask their officials to start calling moving screens

Salmons looked really hampered by that groin injury, he tried to play through the pain but you could tell he wasnt the player who helped get us to the playoffs.

 

[Manic Devourer]

He is the perfect example of a player that relies on his athletic ability as opposed to fully utilizing it. There are plenty of players that have entered the league with great athletic ability who only ever relied upon it to survive, and ended up being only average player. Then on the opposite of the coin, it's the player that try to use every ounce of their athletic advantage to expose their opponents becomes stars. This is another reason why players such as Millsap for example do well in this league, because they have already instilled a sense of workmanship in their minds from all the work they put in to stay competitive in this league to survive in this league, they understand the hard work it takes because that's what they've been doing all their lives as being under-sized or nonathletic types.

Don't get me wrong, I bet that Tyrus works hard in practice but the problem is he doesn't exert that extra effort and hard work to fully realize his athletic ability which is far and beyond most NBA players. It's a worry and a shame, and if he doesn't ever get it mentally he'll never be more than an average player in this league, and he'll be wasting all his genetic gifts. He is still young enough to get it, and he is still only a 3rd year player, but he is running out of time, because there are plenty of young players coming into this league that wants it just as much or more than he does and he'll be left behind in the dust.

 

[Bullsman24]

i think we just need to make him gain some muscle and learn some basic technique and he will be awesome. he's too scrawny to defend PFs in this current time

 

[Manic Devourer]

bullsman24 wrote:

i think we just need to make him gain some muscle and learn some basic technique and he will be awesome. he's too scrawny to defend PFs in this current time

That is true, but I think the main problem is that he just doesn't exert himself fully in games. I've never seen him gasp for air from just playing like a mother! I want to see him gasp for air because he was just giving his all for an important game, just once in his entire career.

Yes, adding muscle will surely allow him to play better, especially in the post but I'm talking about hustle and just a relentless attitude on the floor which he really lacks. There are plenty of thin players that play a lot harder, and still bounce back up and play just as hard even if they get put on their behinds.

 

[sabixx]

the way the Celts get away with moving screens is just another clear example of how bad NBA reffing is. the celts literally do an illegal pick every time they set a pick, its mind numbing that its never called.

 

[AirP]

I'm not condoning Tyrus not running but I do understand why. In 3 years he has ran the court hard some not to get the ball, the first 1 1/2 years of his career Skiles had the guards pull up for 20 foot jumpers instead of attacking the basket, meaning we 100% ignored our bigs running the court, they were there only to rebound the ball. Now at days I'll watch Tyrus have an open path to the basket but yet very rarely would get passed the ball. It get's OLD after a while and basically discourages bigs from running the court. Noah luckily only went through 1/2 a year of Skiles ball. I still can see a fast break where Noah was ALL BY HIMSELF under the basket, Nocioni looked at him and then chucked up a contested 3... on the break.

I'll say this... a motto that I grew up and heard time after time... "You reward a big man for running the court" was something that never crossed Skiles' mind and with that, something the Bulls guards rarely did... oh wait... Hinrich did that last year with Noah... AND IT COMPLETELY TOOK NOAH BY SURPRISE and fumbled the ball away.

Like I said, I don't condone not running the court, but he is a product of his development which was piss poor. Paxson should have just traded the #4 pick to Indiana for Jeff Foster to get a big who will hustle and not be bothered about ever getting a shot.

It is something that does need to be fixed, I'm not arguing that.

 

[sabixx]

sorry,but the bigs reward is that they get paid by the bulls organization to play basketball. you don't run the court only because you want to score. I dont care if he never gets the ball when he runs, he needs to run. you can't blame this on the bulls development, he didn't run in college either.

 

[RC_Skinny22]

Fred wrote:

You can now download every one of the Bulls playoff games on iTunes.

Can you please tell me where exactly? I don´t know why but I´m not able to find it. :huh:

Thx a lot.

Bullseye