Gordon has proved his worth

[Kush77]

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[dougthonus]

Ignore this thread (or not).

I just installed something which links all of our articles to the forums to test it out I tried clicking on it and it made this topic.

 

[TheStig]

I agree with most of the article but I don't think he should hold out for Deng type money. Deng isn't even worth deng money. I think ultimately BG will resign with the bulls but I can't see him getting the money he is worth. It is a really bad economy and teams will be holding their cap space for next year. I just can't see BG getting more than 6/60 and more likely closer to 6/50. I will personally be outraged if I see him go. Outside of Rose he is my favorite player and has been our best player this year.

 

[Diddy1122]

I truly don't believe the Bulls will offer a large enough contract for BG. I really don't see them going much over 50 for him. Maybe they try and do it front loaded like Kirk and Noce, but I don't think BG will be a Bull after this season.

And it stinks because Deng is the one who should be gone. The Bulls find a taker for Mr. Glass, and they can keep BG.

 

[mlewinth]

I think my thoughts probobly mirror those of the other postings. I agree Gordon is the best Bull who has come up for an extention. Though he is, he still shouldnt be waiting out for Deng type dollars. Deng got a bad contract. How does it help our team to give out another bad contract, even if to our best player. I would have no problem giving Gordon deng money if we didnt have Deng making deng money and Kirk on the books for alot. I don't personally think Gordon is worth $80 million bucks, but hey, if he got it, at least he is producing, so I could live with it. Problem is, we have bad contracts, thats just the reality, plus re-signing Gordon, doesnt make us "better" it only brings us back to where we are now. The Bulls need to make sure that no matter what, they have the money necassary next summer to make a big move, because at the end of the day, a big guy is what we need. Don't get me wrong though, I wan't Gordon back, just don't mortgage the teams future to get him.

 

[Kush77]

BG might not get Deng money, I just don't see him doing Bulls' management any favors. I can't see him accepting being paid less that Deng or Hinrich. I wouldn't accept that.

Everyone else on the Bulls has gotten paid but the best player over the last 5 years should accept less? I can't see that. And the timing is bad, that's why i think he should take another 1-year deal and take his chance in 2010, if another team doesn't make a decent offer.

The Bulls aren't hurting, they could offer Gordon a nice deal, but they are cheap and use the luxury tax as an excuse. So the Bulls are going to let one of the top 2 players walk because they're cheap. That should be unacceptable to Bulls fans.

 

[cool007]

I hope Bulls offer him $10mil per year type contract and Gordon agrees to it and call it a day.

Let's move on and move other bad contracts. We don't want to lose a good player who has helped us make the playoffs for last 4 of 5 seasons because we gave couple of bad contracts to other we thought were "great players".

I think even if we had to pay Lux tax for this year, I woudl still sign Gordon and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Then worry about the other contracts (if we already didn't do something on the draft night).

 

[??? ??????]

cool007 wrote:

I hope Bulls offer him $10mil per year type contract and Gordon agrees to it and call it a day.

Let's move on and move other bad contracts. We don't want to lose a good player who has helped us make the playoffs for last 4 of 5 seasons because we gave couple of bad contracts to other we thought were "great players".

I think even if we had to pay Lux tax for this year, I woudl still sign Gordon and lock him up for the next 5 years.

Then worry about the other contracts (if we already didn't do something on the draft night).

Agreed. I like the $10 million idea the best. The Bulls still get Gordon on a relatively reasonable contract, but they put water under the bridge from the past two negotiations, and Gordon ends up with a contract he can be content with.

I think the Bulls at the very least should re-offer that $54 million/6 year deal. If they aren't willing to do that, then I don't think they should even bother making an offer.

 

[Concept]

I've been a Gordon fan since day one. If he was used as just a spot up shooter he would be deadly. In the current system all too often Gordon is given the ball and told to just do something while everyone else just watches. Let him camp on the 3 point line like paxon, armstrong, hodges and kerr did in the past and he'll knock down every 3-pointer. His ppg might go down but his shooting % will go up. His 3-point % is only around 40% now because at the end of every close game Gordon is told to launch 3's from everywhere on the court defended or not, hoping that one or two will drop.

 

[cool007]

Concept wrote:

I've been a Gordon fan since day one. If he was used as just a spot up shooter he would be deadly. In the current system all too often Gordon is given the ball and told to just do something while everyone else just watches. Let him camp on the 3 point line like paxon, armstrong, hodges and kerr did in the past and he'll knock down every 3-pointer. His ppg might go down but his shooting % will go up. His 3-point % is only around 40% now because at the end of every close game Gordon is told to launch 3's from everywhere on the court defended or not, hoping that one or two will drop.

I disagree. Kerr and them were SHOOTERS, Gordon is a Pure Scorer and he is so much more efficient at the 2 as well. If he wasn't doing what he has been doing, Bulls would be in the lottery with the same result as Knicks' record.

We need BG's scoring big time and as long as he is efficient, I have no problem him taking shots whenever he wants pretty much.

 

[cool007]

By the way, how come Concept has ZERO post under his profile? He already posted once, shouldn't he have 1?

 

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cool007 wrote:

By the way, how come Concept has ZERO post under his profile? He already posted once, shouldn't he have 1?

He has discovered the ways of the force that allow for an immortal 0 posts.

Actually, I think since this is an article, he posted on the article side and not the forum side, and that's why he has 0 posts.

 

[Concept]

I do agree that Gordon is a better scorer than the guys I mentioned. I haven't watched a lot of Bulls games but I have watched more than a few this season. It seems like Gordon is always just given the ball and told to score. Nothing really set up for him or anything. And considering that Gordon dribbles off his foot 3 outta 5 times he tries to move with the ball, I don't see this as good use of his abilities. And when plays are ran for him, its always some 3-point shot from 5" behind the line that everyone has to pray goes in. When he's camping on the 3-point line watching everyone else play he knocks down the shot at least 70% of the time.

I think people expect too much out of Gordon. Everyone wants him to be an elite scorer dropping 25+ a night but yet if you look around the league most 25+ point guys take at least 20 shots a night. I checked the stats and used Danny Granger as a baseline averaging 25.3 ppg and 18.9 shots/game. I feel, if Gordon is not going to get the 20+ shots every night that would allow him to score 25+ (and actually have quality plays ran for him), than reduce his role and make him a spot up shooter that is beyond deadly from the 3-point line.

 

[TSD]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101217...sZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA2Z1bGxuYnNwc3Rvcg--





I find it hilarious with the state of the country, Pardoning a dead outlaw is worth the time and effort.



I mean people are going to be getting paid to come to a conclusion on whether or not to pardon Billy the Kid. It doesn't even matter, pardoning him won't change history and gives peace to no one.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

ROFL that's terrible.

 

[JOVE23]

The **** for? He did do a lot of bad stuff.



But this is coming from Kim Jong-Bill Richardson, who negotiated a deal with North Korea that will inevitably lead to more subterfuge and provocation and dead South Koreans.

 

[bubbleheadchief]

Guy was a murdering thief, reportedly killed as many as 21 people total, not out of self defense, or during a military engagement, just straight up offed them, so you pardon him?

 

[Kerfuffle]

I never figured out either why Richardson thinks this is a high priority now - to pardon some guy who murdered people.

 

[bubbleheadchief]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40861736/ns/us_news/



Ain't happening, Billy remains a convicted outlaw.

 

[sth]

What about the James gang? How about John Dillinger? Tell me Bonnie and Clyde are going to get off.