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It's can't be good news for Mullens if he gets picked by the Thunder that franchise hasn't had much luck selecting young mid-first round centers recently. Swift, Petro, and then the worse pick I can remember, Mouhamed Sene.And if Milwaukee wants Mullens, then maybe Bogut is not as fully healed like they claim or they've given up on him. But of course they could view Mullens as a career backup but I find it hard to believe they would take him when they potentially have other needs like PG or PF if they can't retain Villanueva and Sessions.
I can't see Detroit pulling Millsap away from Utah unless they significantly overpay which would compromise their chances of getting both him and Gordon. Also I feel Gordon will likely play for the MLE next year for a title contender if we don't bring him back, which I don't think is going to happen, and even with those two Detroit would not be a title contender.
I can't see Detroit pulling Millsap away from Utah unless they significantly overpay which would compromise their chances of getting both him and Gordon. Also I feel Gordon will likely play for the MLE next year for a title contender if we don't bring him back, which I don't think is going to happen, and even with those two Detroit would not be a title contender.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
I don't know. I fear we Bulls fans are fooling ourselves a bit. IF, and I mark it as a big if, Detroit is to target Gordon as priority 1 or 2, there's a pretty good chance he'll be gone. If they offer him half of their available space, that's already competetive with the best offer the Bulls have ever given him. The big story is whether or not the Pistons are that serious, if serious at all. Now, if I were them, I'd push for Millsap, but it's not that hard to imagine Dumars liking Gordon enough to pursue him, whether it makes perfect sense to outside observers or not.
I don't know. I fear we Bulls fans are fooling ourselves a bit. IF, and I mark it as a big if, Detroit is to target Gordon as priority 1 or 2, there's a pretty good chance he'll be gone. If they offer him half of their available space, that's already competetive with the best offer the Bulls have ever given him. The big story is whether or not the Pistons are that serious, if serious at all. Now, if I were them, I'd push for Millsap, but it's not that hard to imagine Dumars liking Gordon enough to pursue him, whether it makes perfect sense to outside observers or not.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
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We can offer Gordon more than the Pistons. It's just a matter of whether or not we want to re-sign him.
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We can offer Gordon more than the Pistons. It's just a matter of whether or not we want to re-sign him.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
Sorry that would be a major typo, I actually do think he's gone and have felt that way since he turned down the 1st contract we offered him. But again I can't see him playing for Detroit but I can't see them offering him 10 mill a year and if they do he'll surely sign with them and I've been wrong before about what Dumars would do.
Sorry that would be a major typo, I actually do think he's gone and have felt that way since he turned down the 1st contract we offered him. But again I can't see him playing for Detroit but I can't see them offering him 10 mill a year and if they do he'll surely sign with them and I've been wrong before about what Dumars would do.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
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This is the bottom line. If we can move Hinrich, there is no reason Gordon shouldn't be back here next year with a 9-10mil per year deal.
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This is the bottom line. If we can move Hinrich, there is no reason Gordon shouldn't be back here next year with a 9-10mil per year deal.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
Why does Detroit need to shed more salary to sign BG and Milsap? I don't see either having a first year salary of more than 10 mill a piece. This article doesn't make sense.
Why does Detroit need to shed more salary to sign BG and Milsap? I don't see either having a first year salary of more than 10 mill a piece. This article doesn't make sense.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
I would think Detroit would look for something other than an undersized scoring 2 guard after what happened to them at the end of the year.
I would think Detroit would look for something other than an undersized scoring 2 guard after what happened to them at the end of the year.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
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Millsap's restricted, so they will have to way overpay him so the Jazz don't match.
Chicago's a better situation than Detroit, especially if we swing a trade for Amare/Bosh. So if money is equal, Gordon probably chooses Chicago.
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Millsap's restricted, so they will have to way overpay him so the Jazz don't match.
Chicago's a better situation than Detroit, especially if we swing a trade for Amare/Bosh. So if money is equal, Gordon probably chooses Chicago.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
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See I disagree, I think Detroit is going to let Utah pick. They know one of the two will be available. Why overbid for the choice? Milsap fits Utah better and Boozer fits better in Detroit. I think things will work themselves out, its not a situation where either will walk away empty handed. I also can't really see Dumars really bidding high for BG with Rip not being easily movable and BG not a pressing need.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
If you think the Bulls do a bad job in developing bigs we are not nearly as bad as the Thunder. Any big that goes there will be doomed. If they get Thabeet I call it a bust.
If you think the Bulls do a bad job in developing bigs we are not nearly as bad as the Thunder. Any big that goes there will be doomed. If they get Thabeet I call it a bust.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
I'm not Ben Gordon's biggest fan, but I think if a team wants to offer him more than $8mill a year, than that team can have him, his negatives far out weight his positives
I'm not Ben Gordon's biggest fan, but I think if a team wants to offer him more than $8mill a year, than that team can have him, his negatives far out weight his positives
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
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I think the Thunder's big man problem has more to do with who they're drafting than how they develop it. Robert Swift, Johan Petro, and Mohammad Sene, were all High Upside, Big Bust potential players.
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I think the Thunder's big man problem has more to do with who they're drafting than how they develop it. Robert Swift, Johan Petro, and Mohammad Sene, were all High Upside, Big Bust potential players.
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Re:Gordon, Millsap Detroit's Two Free Agent Target
Weren't all those guys taken during a different regime anyway?
Weren't all those guys taken during a different regime anyway?
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Yes but I thought it was still interesting to note.
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Not to mention I don't think a single one of those picks was over 19 when taken. Thabeet is already proven on the defensive end, he just needs some offense, and I say "some" because I don't think he'll ever be an offensive force or the focal point of a team's offense. I still think #2 is too high to pick him, and I honestly believe he will drop to somewhere around #5 or #6.
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Not to mention I don't think a single one of those picks was over 19 when taken. Thabeet is already proven on the defensive end, he just needs some offense, and I say "some" because I don't think he'll ever be an offensive force or the focal point of a team's offense. I still think #2 is too high to pick him, and I honestly believe he will drop to somewhere around #5 or #6.
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I was just looking at some stuff, and saw that Raymond Brothers is also Paul Millsap's agent.
I could see Raymond Brothers just using Detroit for both his clients to leverage bigger contracts from both current team....of course there is also the possibility that he could be promising Detroit the daily double.
Although I really don't think that Ben Gordon is going to want to leave Chicago for any of the teams with capspace. Detroit is the worst big city in America. Oklahoma City is a nice city, but there's not a lot too it. Memphis is a rather average city as well.
Chicago really outclasses the other destinations.
If the cap didn't shrink, and Miami had capspace, as projected before the economic collapse, I think he would leave for there.
But the three teams with capspace don't really seem like that great of destinations.
I could see Raymond Brothers just using Detroit for both his clients to leverage bigger contracts from both current team....of course there is also the possibility that he could be promising Detroit the daily double.
Although I really don't think that Ben Gordon is going to want to leave Chicago for any of the teams with capspace. Detroit is the worst big city in America. Oklahoma City is a nice city, but there's not a lot too it. Memphis is a rather average city as well.
Chicago really outclasses the other destinations.
If the cap didn't shrink, and Miami had capspace, as projected before the economic collapse, I think he would leave for there.
But the three teams with capspace don't really seem like that great of destinations.
