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This is the simple truth, although the doctor takes the blame himself, and puts it upon the medical profession. I put the blame on the FDA for allowing food companies to put this shit in our "food", and for telling us we need to eat more of it in order to remain "healthy."



Heart Surgeon Speaks Out On What Really Causes Heart Disease ~Dr. Dwight Lundell [/font]



We physicians with all our training, knowledge and authority often acquire a rather large ego that tends to make it difficult to admit we are wrong. So, here it is. I freely admit to being wrong. As a heart surgeon with 25 years experience, having performed over 5,000 open-heart surgeries, today is my day to right the wrong with medical and scientific fact.



I trained for many years with other prominent physicians labelled "opinion makers." Bombarded with scientific literature, continually attending education seminars, we opinion makers insisted heart disease resulted from the simple fact of elevated blood cholesterol.



The only accepted therapy was prescribing medications to lower cholesterol and a diet that severely restricted fat intake. The latter of course we insisted would lower cholesterol and heart disease. Deviations from these recommendations were considered heresy and could quite possibly result in malpractice.



It Is Not Working!



These recommendations are no longer scientifically or morally defensible. The discovery a few years ago that inflammation in the artery wall is the real cause of heart disease is slowly leading to a paradigm shift in how heart disease and other chronic ailments will be treated.



The long-established dietary recommendations have created epidemics of obesity and diabetes, the consequences of which dwarf any historical plague in terms of mortality, human suffering and dire economic consequences.



Despite the fact that 25% of the population takes expensive statin medications and despite the fact we have reduced the fat content of our diets, more Americans will die this year of heart disease than ever before.



Statistics from the American Heart Association show that 75 million Americans currently suffer from heart disease, 20 million have diabetes and 57 million have pre-diabetes. These disorders are affecting younger and younger people in greater numbers every year.



Simply stated, without inflammation being present in the body, there is no way that cholesterol would accumulate in the wall of the blood vessel and cause heart disease and strokes. Without inflammation, cholesterol would move freely throughout the body as nature intended. It is inflammation that causes cholesterol to become trapped.



Inflammation is not complicated -- it is quite simply your body's natural defence to a foreign invader such as a bacteria, toxin or virus. The cycle of inflammation is perfect in how it protects your body from these bacterial and viral invaders. However, if we chronically expose the body to injury by toxins or foods the human body was never designed to process,a condition occurs called chronic inflammation. Chronic inflammation is just as harmful as acute inflammation is beneficial.



What thoughtful person would willfully expose himself repeatedly to foods or other substances that are known to cause injury to the body? Well, smokers perhaps, but at least they made that choice willfully.



The rest of us have simply followed the recommended mainstream diet that is low in fat and high in polyunsaturated fats and carbohydrates, not knowing we were causing repeated injury to our blood vessels. This repeated injury creates chronic inflammation leading to heart disease, stroke, diabetes and obesity.



Let me repeat that: The injury and inflammation in our blood vessels is caused by the low fat diet recommended for years by mainstream medicine.



What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flour and all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods.



Take a moment to visualize rubbing a stiff brush repeatedly over soft skin until it becomes quite red and nearly bleeding. you kept this up several times a day, every day for five years. If you could tolerate this painful brushing, you would have a bleeding, swollen infected area that became worse with each repeated injury. This is a good way to visualize the inflammatory process that could be going on in your body right now.



Regardless of where the inflammatory process occurs, externally or internally, it is the same. I have peered inside thousands upon thousands of arteries. A diseased artery looks as if someone took a brush and scrubbed repeatedly against its wall. Several times a day, every day, the foods we eat create small injuries compounding into more injuries, causing the body to respond continuously and appropriately with inflammation.



While we savor the tantalizing taste of a sweet roll, our bodies respond alarmingly as if a foreign invader arrived declaring war. Foods loaded with sugars and simple carbohydrates, or processed with omega-6 oils for long shelf life have been the mainstay of the American diet for six decades. These foods have been slowly poisoning everyone.



How does eating a simple sweet roll create a cascade of inflammation to make you sick?



Imagine spilling syrup on your keyboard and you have a visual of what occurs inside the cell. When we consume simple carbohydrates such as sugar, blood sugar rises rapidly. In response, your pancreas secretes insulin whose primary purpose is to drive sugar into each cell where it is stored for energy. If the cell is full and does not need glucose, it is rejected to avoid extra sugar gumming up the works.



When your full cells reject the extra glucose, blood sugar rises producing more insulin and the glucose converts to stored fat.



What does all this have to do with inflammation? Blood sugar is controlled in a very narrow range. Extra sugar molecules attach to a variety of proteins that in turn injure the blood vessel wall. This repeated injury to the blood vessel wall sets off inflammation. When you spike your blood sugar level several times a day, every day, it is exactly like taking sandpaper to the inside of your delicate blood vessels.



While you may not be able to see it, rest assured it is there. I saw it in over 5,000 surgical patients spanning 25 years who all shared one common denominator -- inflammation in their arteries.



Let's get back to the sweet roll. That innocent looking goody not only contains sugars, it is baked in one of many omega-6 oils such as soybean. Chips and fries are soaked in soybean oil; processed foods are manufactured with omega-6 oils for longer shelf life. While omega-6's are essential -they are part of every cell membrane controlling what goes in and out of the cell -- they must be in the correct balance with omega-3's.



If the balance shifts by consuming excessive omega-6, the cell membrane produces chemicals called cytokines that directly cause inflammation.



Today's mainstream American diet has produced an extreme imbalance of these two fats. The ratio of imbalance ranges from 15:1 to as high as 30:1 in favor of omega-6. That's a tremendous amount of cytokines causing inflammation. In today's food environment, a 3:1 ratio would be optimal and healthy.



To make matters worse, the excess weight you are carrying from eating these foods creates overloaded fat cells that pour out large quantities of pro-inflammatory chemicals that add to the injury caused by having high blood sugar. The process that began with a sweet roll turns into a vicious cycle over time that creates heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes and finally, Alzheimer's disease, as the inflammatory process continues unabated.



There is no escaping the fact that the more we consume prepared and processed foods, the more we trip the inflammation switch little by little each day. The human body cannot process, nor was it designed to consume, foods packed with sugars and soaked in omega-6 oils.



There is but one answer to quieting inflammation, and that is returning to foods closer to their natural state. To build muscle, eat more protein. Choose carbohydrates that are very complex such as colorful fruits and vegetables. Cut down on or eliminate inflammation- causing omega-6 fats like corn and soybean oil and the processed foods that are made from them.



One tablespoon of corn oil contains 7,280 mg of omega-6; soybean contains 6,940 mg. Instead, use olive oil or butter from grass-fed beef.



Animal fats contain less than 20% omega-6 and are much less likely to cause inflammation than the supposedly healthy oils labelled polyunsaturated. Forget the "science" that has been drummed into your head for decades. The science that saturated fat alone causes heart disease is non-existent. The science that saturated fat raises blood cholesterol is also very weak. Since we now know that cholesterol is not the cause of heart disease, the concern about saturated fat is even more absurd today.



The cholesterol theory led to the no-fat, low-fat recommendations that in turn created the very foods now causing an epidemic of inflammation. Mainstream medicine made a terrible mistake when it advised people to avoid saturated fat in favor of foods high in omega-6 fats. We now have an epidemic of arterial inflammation leading to heart disease and other silent killers.



What you can do is choose whole foods your grandmother served and not those your mom turned to as grocery store aisles filled with manufactured foods. By eliminating inflammatory foods and adding essential nutrients from fresh unprocessed food, you will reverse years of damage in your arteries and throughout your body from consuming the typical American diet.[/font]
 

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Link?



I hesitate to throw all my fish in any one barrel. Complicated issues like the pathology and epidemiology of heart disease can't be fixed by one solution, and the Atkin's diet (basically what this guy is saying) isn't the smoking gun answer to everyone with heart disease.
 

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I hesitate to throw all my fish in any one barrel. Complicated issues like the pathology and epidemiology of heart disease can't be fixed by one solution, and the Atkin's diet (basically what this guy is saying) isn't the smoking gun answer to everyone with heart disease.



I dont think he is pitching Atkin's at all. Atkin's is a means of being able to shovel certain foods in your face to trick your body into going into a form of starvation, forcing fat cells to be burned for energy or using the minimal glucose from proteins. I am far from a cellular biologist, but that was what I recall from Bio 101 <insert grain of salt>



But one only need look to the US middle states to see that this country thrives on corn (by)products. So when the Dr. here is saying to eat what your Grandmother would have cooked, this is more in-line to a more natural diet conducive to the human body. Or my mother always used to say when I begged for Super Sugar Bomb Snacks cereal: "We dont shop in the middle aisles..." Meaning that your meats, fruits, veggies, and natural carbohydrates are all on the outside aisles of the store.
 

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Sorry Wino, I don't have a link, it was posted on my fb page. This short essay is saying the same thing that a book I read said. Wheat Belly (written by another heart doctor).
 

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I'm not advocating diets rich in corn syrup, far from it. Just saying coronary heart disease is a complex issue and there are multiple issues that contribute to blood vessel inflammation. To blame it all on corn sugar is less than an honest appraisal of the situation.
 

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I didn't read "corn sugar" as being the single culprit in the piece. I read it as the whole gamut of processed food.
 

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Processed food could mean just aboot anything.



I'd challenge you to find an official recommendation for a diet that advocates all "processed foods" and recommends avoiding so called "whole foods"



In fact current ADA nutrition guidelines call for more raw fruits, vegetables and whole grain complex carbs while reducing simple carbs, fats and oils.



The prevalence of fast food and foods high in simple sugars and saturated fats has more to do with retail sales, demand and profits.
 

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No doubt about it. However, the spike in obesity and diabetes can be directly linked to the governments suggestion of eating more servings of "healthy whole grains" in the mid 80's. The blood-sugar/insulin cycle is ripping people apart health-wise.
 

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No doubt about it. However, the spike in obesity and diabetes can be directly linked to the governments suggestion of eating more servings of "healthy whole grains" in the mid 80's. The blood-sugar/insulin cycle is ripping people apart health-wise.



I'd argue it's the rise of fast food, soft drinks, super-size me marketing, and increasingly sedentary life styles in a society where every new product is to make your life easier more than anything to do with balanced diet recommendations.



And speaking professionally, almost nobody in my experience follows ADA nutrition guidelines instead flocking to what ever the latest fad trend diet is, be it whole foods, caveman diet, sugar busters, Adkins, Mediterranian (sp) diet ect....
 

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Regarding the esteemed Dr. Dwight Lundell





By the way if you want an unbiased scientific evaluation of a healthcare trend, CAM therapy or other healthcare information it would be hard to do better than Quackwatch. That organization is the gold standard for exposing frauds and cons in the healthcare/wellness/CAM/nutrition arena.
 

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I would back the discussion up further to what wino said in that this is a very complicated issue in that pathology and epidemiology of heart disease can't be fixed by one solution, or any health problem for that matter. They approach of medicine as a whole needs to be moved toward the more individualistic diagnostic understand of each patient. Meaning, every person is completely different and while you can treat common things the same across patients, not everything will work the same. A better understanding of the body and their interactions with each other internally is needed to treat the individual, not the patient. You could put two people on the exact same diet and exercise and one will lose 20 pounds and one will lose 30... you could then do the same thing with those same two people and change the diet and the reverse could happen. THe other guy could lose 30 instead of 20. The same goes for the rest of it and unfortunately I think the knowledge and understanding for individualized medicine is well down the road. And too expensive. Sure there are instances where things like this may happen, but I'm talking about seeing a patient and being able to prescribe him 24.3 grams of the best medicine for him, instead of giving him 50 grams of the most commonly used medicine for his health problem. I was long and rambling because I wasn't quite sure how to get out what I was thinking.
 

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Mass, I don't think we are arguing (you aren't either.) Obviously there is more to a health issue than a single pill, ingredient, procedure, symptom, etc. It would be nice if patients were treated as individuals, but unfortunately that is not the case when people don't pay individually. When someone else is paying the bill, they dictate what is best for the patient (hopefully based upon real numbers, not just profit). Each health "plan" consists of a large number of people who are treated the same way, regardless of what they need.



My whole point in starting this thread was to show just one example of how the FDA is a fucked up administration that allows food manufacturers to put cheap fillers in substances commonly called "food", and then they pass off new guidelines about how much of the stuff you should eat, all based upon faulty information.
 

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No doubt about it. However, the spike in obesity and diabetes can be directly linked to the governments suggestion of eating more servings of "healthy whole grains" in the mid 80's. The blood-sugar/insulin cycle is ripping people apart health-wise.



There is a difference between healthy whole grains and what the guy is talking about in this article, Most crap you see labelled as "whole grain" actually isnt, i.e. they can add a little bit of whole grain food to a product and label it whole grain even though 90% of it isnt.



But riddle me this, why is heart disease rare, in places where almost every meal is consumed with white rice, which is sugary and high carb, such as china and japan. and thats not a stereo type, according to the interwebs, the average japanese eats 65kg of rice per year, the average chinese? 90.2 kg of rice per year...in some other asian countries its even higher. So the idea high carb foods are the culprit, is kind of pissed on by the asian communities.
 

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There is a difference between healthy whole grains and what the guy is talking about in this article, Most crap you see labelled as "whole grain" actually isnt, i.e. they can add a little bit of whole grain food to a product and label it whole grain even though 90% of it isnt.



But riddle me this, why is heart disease rare, in places where almost every meal is consumed with white rice, which is sugary and high carb, such as china and japan. and thats not a stereo type, according to the interwebs, the average japanese eats 65kg of rice per year, the average chinese? 90.2 kg of rice per year...in some other asian countries its even higher. So the idea high carb foods are the culprit, is kind of pissed on by the asian communities.



Good question. According to Wheat Belly, it is the bastard, GMO wheat we eat. The dwarf wheat we consume is a distant cousin from the einchorn wheat of yesteryear. It was modified to "feed the world" but nobody ever bothered to test it on humans. Two slices of whole wheat bread spike the blood sugar levels more than 2 tablespoons of sugar. I have been wheat-free in my diet for almost three months now and I can only speak from my personal experience when I say I buy into the book. I lost 12 lbs the first two weeks, over an inch off my waist, and no longer have the abdominal pain and bloating issues that I used to have. I also do not constantly crave food every 2 hours, and snack all day like I used to.
 

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Good question. According to Wheat Belly, it is the bastard, GMO wheat we eat. The dwarf wheat we consume is a distant cousin from the einchorn wheat of yesteryear. It was modified to "feed the world" but nobody ever bothered to test it on humans. Two slices of whole wheat bread spike the blood sugar levels more than 2 tablespoons of sugar. I have been wheat-free in my diet for almost three months now and I can only speak from my personal experience when I say I buy into the book. I lost 12 lbs the first two weeks, over an inch off my waist, and no longer have the abdominal pain and bloating issues that I used to have. I also do not constantly crave food every 2 hours, and snack all day like I used to.



Are you a sufferer of ceiliac disease?
 

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I am not, but that's where lots of the research comes from.
 

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