Henderson the target? Plus Gar quotes

[ryguy24]

The Bulls have held trade talks with several teams about packaging picks Nos. 16 and 26 into one higher selection, with two league sources insisting the target is Duke shooting guard Gerald Henderson.

But Gar pretty much says anything is possible:

"We may take a point guard if we feel that's the best player available," general manager Gar Forman said at a Berto Center news conference.

"We've also had talks with teams about moving back," Forman said. "And we've had talks with teams where either with one or both of our picks, we move out."

Forman said should they stay at No. 16, the Bulls still are strongly considering "five or six players."

Forman said trade talk involving potential 2010 free agents such as Suns forward Amare Stoudemire and Raptors big man Chris Bosh has been minimal. ESPN.com resurrected an old rumor in which Portland could target guard Kirk Hinrich in a draft-day deal.

But Forman said the Bulls' backcourt situation, which includes Ben Gordon's unrestricted free agency as of July 1, isn't driving draft-day decisions.

"We're analyzing this draft by itself," he said.

Forman said it's possible if the Bulls keep No. 26 that they would draft a player under contract overseas, which they did in the second round last year with Turkish center Omer Asik.

"At the same time, we're still looking at players that maybe we feel don't get to 16 but are worthwhile for us to move up (to draft)," Forman said. "We probably have more options than some teams because we have the two first-round picks.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...-23-bulls-draft-chicago-jun23,0,3324174.story

 

[Bullsman24]

i think it would be a good idea to get an overseas player, we don't want contracts to handle and we don't want to add a useless player to the roster. i think maybe we could trade just this pick back to the second round if psycho t isn't there so we don't have to worry about the contract scale, which makes international players unhappy. just look at tiago splitter

 

[Newskoolbulls]

bullsman24 wrote:

i think it would be a good idea to get an overseas player, we don't want contracts to handle and we don't want to add a useless player to the roster. i think maybe we could trade just this pick back to the second round if psycho t isn't there so we don't have to worry about the contract scale, which makes international players unhappy. just look at tiago splitter

Take Calathaes at #26. Its clear the Bulls dont want two rookies on the roster.

 

[Newskoolbulls]

I like Henderson I just dont like the jumper.

 

[Diddy1122]

Newskoolbulls wrote:

I like Henderson I just dont like the jumper.

Me too. But out of the guards in this draft, I think he's got one of the best chances of being an impact player for a team. We're not talking Grant Hill when his career is done, but his combo of speed, athleticism, & excellent fundamental D can carve him a nice niche in this league. His weaknesses are pretty easily correctable & I'd love to see him running on the break alongside Rose.

 

[Newskoolbulls]

Diddy1122 wrote:

Newskoolbulls wrote:

I like Henderson I just dont like the jumper.

Me too. But out of the guards in this draft, I think he's got one of the best chances of being an impact player for a team. We're not talking Grant Hill when his career is done, but his combo of speed, athleticism, & excellent fundamental D can carve him a nice niche in this league. His weaknesses are pretty easily correctable & I'd love to see him running on the break alongside Rose.

true, also his D would be much needed.

 

[clonetrooper264]

Newskoolbulls wrote:

true, also his D would be much needed.

Especially if Hinrich is traded.

 

[Diddy1122]

clonetrooper264 wrote:

Newskoolbulls wrote:

true, also his D would be much needed.

Especially if Hinrich is traded.

Agree. That's why when we had Henderson out for the first pre-draft camp, I knew the Bulls really liked this kid & would possibly move up to get him. Sam Smith agreed.

http://blogs.bulls.com/chicago_bulls_blog/2009/06/should-the-bulls-move-up-for-gerald-henderson.html

 

[SouL EateR]

Another salary cap question ,lets say we trade Hinrich for Outlaw and Blake and Bg still chooses not to sign with us.What would our numbers look like as far as dipping into free agency? I ask this beacause if things do go down this way wed be left needing another gaurd unless ofcourse we are going to draft one..

 

[Newskoolbulls]

SouL EateR wrote:

Another salary cap question ,lets say we trade Hinrich for Outlaw and Blake and Bg still chooses not to sign with us.What would our numbers look like as far as dipping into free agency? I ask this beacause if things do go down this way wed be left needing another gaurd unless ofcourse we are going to draft one..

Isnt Blake a free agent?

 

[Diddy1122]

SouL EateR wrote:

Another salary cap question ,lets say we trade Hinrich for Outlaw and Blake and Bg still chooses not to sign with us.What would our numbers look like as far as dipping into free agency? I ask this beacause if things do go down this way wed be left needing another gaurd unless ofcourse we are going to draft one..

Still just the MLE. We can go over the cap to sign BG cuz he's been on the team more than 3yrs. But if he signs somewhere else, we're still only going to really have the MLE, though I think Blake's contract is only partially guaranteed next season, so could save a few mill there. I don't know maybe 7mill to spend.

 

[TheStig]

Newskoolbulls wrote:

SouL EateR wrote:

Another salary cap question ,lets say we trade Hinrich for Outlaw and Blake and Bg still chooses not to sign with us.What would our numbers look like as far as dipping into free agency? I ask this beacause if things do go down this way wed be left needing another gaurd unless ofcourse we are going to draft one..

Isnt Blake a free agent?

No, both Outlaw and Blake have this upcoming year unguranteed. They can be waived or kept but it isn't their choice.

 

[TheStig]

But why would we want Henderson if we intend to resign BG and still keep Salmons. He would never get any PT even if we dealt kirk.

 

[Newskoolbulls]

TheStig wrote:

But why would we want Henderson if we intend to resign BG and still keep Salmons. He would never get any PT even if we dealt kirk.

I guess we would keep kirk and draft Henderson.

 

[TheStig]

Newskoolbulls wrote:

TheStig wrote:

But why would we want Henderson if we intend to resign BG and still keep Salmons. He would never get any PT even if we dealt kirk.

I guess we would keep kirk and draft Henderson.

Ok but even if we did that, Salmons and kirk would take up the majoirty of the minutes at sg. Salmons would start and play 24 min at sg and backup deng and kirk would get at least 12-14mpg at sg and leave a max of 10mpg for henderson.

 

[Newskoolbulls]

TheStig wrote:

Newskoolbulls wrote:

TheStig wrote:

But why would we want Henderson if we intend to resign BG and still keep Salmons. He would never get any PT even if we dealt kirk.

I guess we would keep kirk and draft Henderson.

Ok but even if we did that, Salmons and kirk would take up the majoirty of the minutes at sg. Salmons would start and play 24 min at sg and backup deng and kirk would get at least 12-14mpg at sg and leave a max of 10mpg for henderson.

You can do so many things with them:
Kirk Henderson Salmons
Rose Henderson Salmons
Kirk Rose Salmons
Kirk Rose Henderson

 

[TheStig]

Newskoolbulls wrote:

TheStig wrote:

Newskoolbulls wrote:

TheStig wrote:

But why would we want Henderson if we intend to resign BG and still keep Salmons. He would never get any PT even if we dealt kirk.

I guess we would keep kirk and draft Henderson.

Ok but even if we did that, Salmons and kirk would take up the majoirty of the minutes at sg. Salmons would start and play 24 min at sg and backup deng and kirk would get at least 12-14mpg at sg and leave a max of 10mpg for henderson.

You can do so many things with them:
Kirk Henderson Salmons
Rose Henderson Salmons
Kirk Rose Salmons
Kirk Rose Henderson

Nothing you did wrong but that really sucks that our 71 million dollar man isn't in these scenairos. I really think Deng gets back to it and grabs his 35mpg.

 

[Newskoolbulls]

TheStig wrote:

Newskoolbulls wrote:

TheStig wrote:

Newskoolbulls wrote:

TheStig wrote:

But why would we want Henderson if we intend to resign BG and still keep Salmons. He would never get any PT even if we dealt kirk.

I guess we would keep kirk and draft Henderson.

Ok but even if we did that, Salmons and kirk would take up the majoirty of the minutes at sg. Salmons would start and play 24 min at sg and backup deng and kirk would get at least 12-14mpg at sg and leave a max of 10mpg for henderson.

You can do so many things with them:
Kirk Henderson Salmons
Rose Henderson Salmons
Kirk Rose Salmons
Kirk Rose Henderson

Nothing you did wrong but that really sucks that our 71 million dollar man isn't in these scenairos. I really think Deng gets back to it and grabs his 35mpg.

I totally forgot Deng lmao

 

[SouL EateR]

Newskoolbulls wrote:

TheStig wrote:

But why would we want Henderson if we intend to resign BG and still keep Salmons. He would never get any PT even if we dealt kirk.

I guess we would keep kirk and draft Henderson.

The origanal point was trading kirk and bg still decides to leave for his own reasons would henderson be a legit option to draft than..but i guess theres no way of knowing that because the draft comes before free agency

 

[Diddy1122]

TheStig wrote:

But why would we want Henderson if we intend to resign BG and still keep Salmons. He would never get any PT even if we dealt kirk.

Because Deng & Kirk are probably in play in some sort of trade. It's very possible framework is already out there for a few trades during the draft. If Deng is gone Salmons is the SF & Henderson is quick enough & strong enough to play D at SF, so he could back up SG/SF positions. And if there's a Portland deal & we get Outlaw, he will be picked up, Blake may not be. So now SF & SG are set, then expirings & Deng need to be shipped off to get a Star Big.

Not excited about the players in the draft but the draft trade potentials for the Bulls should make it an interesting Thursday night.