How the Bears can turn Mitch Truintsky into Alex Smith

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Can we just turn Truintsky into a solid QB like Trubisky?

But don't underestimate the value of a solid but unspectacular starting NFL QB. Unless you pay that solid QB like an all pro...now THAT would be a huge issue...
 

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I don't want him to run 10-12 times a game. He is bound to get hurt then

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Couple things to consider here.

1. If the goal is to get Mitch to be at Alex Smiths level....you have a problem. Smith has put together some nice box score stats in his 5 years in KC. His best being last year when he led the NFL in passer rating. The problem is that in todays NFL A LOT of QB's put together decent box score stats. Smith does a lot of things that the box score doesn't account for. 5 yard run on 3rd and 10 is a bad play...in a box score it's just a 5 yard gain...same as gaining 5 yards on 1st down. The box score doesn't take into account the situation etc. Putting up stats when you are up or down big....box score doesn't account for that.....running from a clean pocket...looks like you are "making something happen" when really Smith ruins many well designed plays by getting the jitters as his targets are breaking open. Smiths garbage QBR ratings more accurately reflect this. Smith is a decent NFL QB who can scramble...protects the ball well, etc...he is NOT a "game-breaker" as suggested in the article. That leads me to my next point......

2. The Chiefs RPO game is NOT designed to get Alex Smith involved in the run game. It IS designed to allow the QB to read ONE KEY DEFENDER, and choose to keep the ball, hand the ball off or make a quick pass. Smith is good for executing such plays because he is a talented runner and is very good at making the right read and quickly deciding what to do. The design is intended to produce a successful result for the offense and not specifically to get the QB to run more often etc. It most certainly is not intended to make the RB a "decoy".

To sum it up. the KC RPO scheme is not a system whose intent is to get the QB to run more...it's to get the QB to make a fast read of ONE defender, and quickly choose what to do with the ball based on that quickly. If it results in ZERO QB runs, that is fine as long as each of those plays was the right read. It only works IF the QB makes the correct read and makes a quick choice.
 

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I'm expecting a scenario with a lot of 5-7 yard passes, a lot of screen passes, a lot of options. So I actually do expect Trubisky's statline to look good this year---As in, a lot of yards and a lower INT percentage.

Let's not overlook, though, that Alex Smith had years in the system and was a master at it. And while I like Nagy, Smith had Andy Reid---Trubisky doesn't.
 

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While the KC offense has become one of efficiency in recent years, the thing that I keep remembering is that they have not been a powerhouse in the playoffs.
2013 - 1 and done
2015 - 2 and done
2016 - 1 and done
2017 -1 and done

While it is nice to get to the playoffs on a consistent basis (I know we would be grateful for this), they have done NOTHING at all with the opportunities.
 

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By telling him to be ultra conservative and avoid all contact?

Word is that Nagy has been in Mitches ear about going downfield and has had him with the ball in trick plays . Means that him not dumping quickly in practice may currently may be by design. Mitch will still need to add a couple yards to his deep throws but we'll know a little more in a week when it starts to get real. I would like to see us stretch the field more. RPOs still work better with the safeties back.
 

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Couple things to consider here.

1. If the goal is to get Mitch to be at Alex Smiths level....you have a problem. Smith has put together some nice box score stats in his 5 years in KC. His best being last year when he led the NFL in passer rating. The problem is that in todays NFL A LOT of QB's put together decent box score stats. Smith does a lot of things that the box score doesn't account for. 5 yard run on 3rd and 10 is a bad play...in a box score it's just a 5 yard gain...same as gaining 5 yards on 1st down. The box score doesn't take into account the situation etc. Putting up stats when you are up or down big....box score doesn't account for that.....running from a clean pocket...looks like you are "making something happen" when really Smith ruins many well designed plays by getting the jitters as his targets are breaking open. Smiths garbage QBR ratings more accurately reflect this. Smith is a decent NFL QB who can scramble...protects the ball well, etc...he is NOT a "game-breaker" as suggested in the article. That leads me to my next point......

2. The Chiefs RPO game is NOT designed to get Alex Smith involved in the run game. It IS designed to allow the QB to read ONE KEY DEFENDER, and choose to keep the ball, hand the ball off or make a quick pass. Smith is good for executing such plays because he is a talented runner and is very good at making the right read and quickly deciding what to do. The design is intended to produce a successful result for the offense and not specifically to get the QB to run more often etc. It most certainly is not intended to make the RB a "decoy".

To sum it up. the KC RPO scheme is not a system whose intent is to get the QB to run more...it's to get the QB to make a fast read of ONE defender, and quickly choose what to do with the ball based on that quickly. If it results in ZERO QB runs, that is fine as long as each of those plays was the right read. It only works IF the QB makes the correct read and makes a quick choice.

learn to read the rewrite mo better. rpo was only mentioned once.

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learn to read the rewrite mo better. rpo was only mentioned once.

How the Bears can turn Mitchell Truintsky into Alex SmithFacebookTwitterFacebook MessengerEmail

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AussiebearESP Staff Writer

During Mitchell Truintskys rookie season in 2017 under John Fox’s coaching staff, the Quarterback had 313 passes totaling 2193 yards and 41 rushes for 248 yards. However, with new coach Matt Nagy bringing a much more modern offensive system to Chicago this season, Mitchell should see a steady uptick in volume within a playbook that caters to his skill set.

Mitch trubintsky should get more opportunities to show off his playmaking skills under Matt Nagy. Aussiebear/NotUSA TODAY Sports

Here are five ways the Bears can generate a consistent 10 to 12 rushes for Trubisky, using both the run and pass game along with some of the same concepts Nagy highlighted last season in Kansas City to keep the ball in the hands of Chiefs game-breaker Alex Smith. Outside zone/edge read options With Howard as a decoy, we are talking about a Quarterback who “skates” through holes, with the natural start/stop ability and the lower-body balance to juke off contact. Mitch has some serious wiggle to his game, for a QB that is and that allows him to set up blockers before slicing into the open field, where he produced 1 “explosive run” for 46 yards in 2017. That’s why I would push the ball to the edge of the formation on outside zone (or stretch) runs, inside zones and then unleash the read option. This caters more to his frame at the position while giving Rb's breathers. On an outside read option (see example below), Mitch can read the edge, read the pursuit of the linebackers and decide to hit that outside lane (bang) or hand the ball off to a RB to find open daylight. It’s a classic fit for his Quarterbacking style, and the Bears can sprinkle in some outside bomb plays and RPOs as well to get him juiced up.

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read option This play utilizes the same blocking as the outside zone, and still provides the three cuts available to the RB. Get the eyes of the defenders moving and attack areas of the field. We can go back to Week 1 in 2017 to see how the Chiefs used their RB as that decoy to produce a run game for Alex smith (see example below). But the Bears could hand off the rock to Cohen or Howard twenty two or thirty three times a game. Yes, it’s another fox run all day scheme, but it also allows the Bears to dress up the defense to create an edge for the deep attack. And that play action can be a weapon in most situations. Seal the attacking defenders and give Mitch the opportunity to step up and bomb it or dash through the open alley for six points.

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Screens We should fully expect the Bears to use the standard pro-style screen game with Cohen in the backfield -- especially off play-action to get defenders moving away from the point of attack. But I also like the idea of Cohen catching the ball on bubble and tunnel screens like Hill does in Kansas City (see example below). Put Cohen in the slot, align him in a trips set or bump him out wide, and package those screens with run-pass options. This would allow the Bears to play with both Cohen and Jordan Howard in the game while giving quarterback Mitchell Trubisky the opportunity to take the matchup based off the pre-snap defensive numbers in the box. Hand the ball off to Howard or swing it outside to Cohen on a screen where he now has the numbers, and blockers, to create in space. It’s a high-percentage throw for Trubisky and a simple way to get the ball to Cohen. That’s stealing.


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How the Bears can turn Mitchell Truintsky into Alex SmithFacebookTwitterFacebook MessengerEmail

10:49 AM CT

AussiebearESP Staff Writer

During Mitchell Truintskys rookie season in 2017 under John Fox’s coaching staff, the Quarterback had 313 passes totaling 2193 yards and 41 rushes for 248 yards. However, with new coach Matt Nagy bringing a much more modern offensive system to Chicago this season, Mitchell should see a steady uptick in volume within a playbook that caters to his skill set.

Mitch trubintsky should get more opportunities to show off his playmaking skills under Matt Nagy. Aussiebear/NotUSA TODAY Sports

Here are five ways the Bears can generate a consistent 10 to 12 rushes for Trubisky, using both the run and pass game along with some of the same concepts Nagy highlighted last season in Kansas City to keep the ball in the hands of Chiefs game-breaker Alex Smith. Outside zone/edge read options With Howard as a decoy, we are talking about a Quarterback who “skates” through holes, with the natural start/stop ability and the lower-body balance to juke off contact. Mitch has some serious wiggle to his game, for a QB that is and that allows him to set up blockers before slicing into the open field, where he produced 1 “explosive run” for 46 yards in 2017. That’s why I would push the ball to the edge of the formation on outside zone (or stretch) runs, inside zones and then unleash the read option. This caters more to his frame at the position while giving Rb's breathers. On an outside read option (see example below), Mitch can read the edge, read the pursuit of the linebackers and decide to hit that outside lane (bang) or hand the ball off to a RB to find open daylight. It’s a classic fit for his Quarterbacking style, and the Bears can sprinkle in some outside bomb plays and RPOs as well to get him juiced up.

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read option This play utilizes the same blocking as the outside zone, and still provides the three cuts available to the RB. Get the eyes of the defenders moving and attack areas of the field. We can go back to Week 1 in 2017 to see how the Chiefs used their RB as that decoy to produce a run game for Alex smith (see example below). But the Bears could hand off the rock to Cohen or Howard twenty two or thirty three times a game. Yes, it’s another fox run all day scheme, but it also allows the Bears to dress up the defense to create an edge for the deep attack. And that play action can be a weapon in most situations. Seal the attacking defenders and give Mitch the opportunity to step up and bomb it or dash through the open alley for six points.

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Screens We should fully expect the Bears to use the standard pro-style screen game with Cohen in the backfield -- especially off play-action to get defenders moving away from the point of attack. But I also like the idea of Cohen catching the ball on bubble and tunnel screens like Hill does in Kansas City (see example below). Put Cohen in the slot, align him in a trips set or bump him out wide, and package those screens with run-pass options. This would allow the Bears to play with both Cohen and Jordan Howard in the game while giving quarterback Mitchell Trubisky the opportunity to take the matchup based off the pre-snap defensive numbers in the box. Hand the ball off to Howard or swing it outside to Cohen on a screen where he now has the numbers, and blockers, to create in space. It’s a high-percentage throw for Trubisky and a simple way to get the ball to Cohen. That’s stealing.


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RPO differ slightly from a pure zone read option.. as you be highlighted.. did u notice RPO dun did only come up once.. to go along with da bombs... the context being useded is as a different entity

n the run-pass-option be speaking on cohen from a turn cohen into be tyreek thang n not mitch..
 

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Couple things to consider here.

1. If the goal is to get Mitch to be at Alex Smiths level....you have a problem. Smith has put together some nice box score stats in his 5 years in KC. His best being last year when he led the NFL in passer rating. The problem is that in todays NFL A LOT of QB's put together decent box score stats. Smith does a lot of things that the box score doesn't account for. 5 yard run on 3rd and 10 is a bad play...in a box score it's just a 5 yard gain...same as gaining 5 yards on 1st down. The box score doesn't take into account the situation etc. Putting up stats when you are up or down big....box score doesn't account for that.....running from a clean pocket...looks like you are "making something happen" when really Smith ruins many well designed plays by getting the jitters as his targets are breaking open. Smiths garbage QBR ratings more accurately reflect this. Smith is a decent NFL QB who can scramble...protects the ball well, etc...he is NOT a "game-breaker" as suggested in the article. That leads me to my next point......

2. The Chiefs RPO game is NOT designed to get Alex Smith involved in the run game. It IS designed to allow the QB to read ONE KEY DEFENDER, and choose to keep the ball, hand the ball off or make a quick pass. Smith is good for executing such plays because he is a talented runner and is very good at making the right read and quickly deciding what to do. The design is intended to produce a successful result for the offense and not specifically to get the QB to run more often etc. It most certainly is not intended to make the RB a "decoy".

To sum it up. the KC RPO scheme is not a system whose intent is to get the QB to run more...it's to get the QB to make a fast read of ONE defender, and quickly choose what to do with the ball based on that quickly. If it results in ZERO QB runs, that is fine as long as each of those plays was the right read. It only works IF the QB makes the correct read and makes a quick choice.

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How the Bears can turn Mitchell Truintsky into Alex SmithFacebookTwitterFacebook MessengerEmail

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AussiebearESP Staff Writer

During Mitchell Truintskys rookie season in 2017 under John Fox’s coaching staff, the Quarterback had 313 passes totaling 2193 yards and 41 rushes for 248 yards. However, with new coach Matt Nagy bringing a much more modern offensive system to Chicago this season, Mitchell should see a steady uptick in volume within a playbook that caters to his skill set.

Mitch trubintsky should get more opportunities to show off his playmaking skills under Matt Nagy. Aussiebear/NotUSA TODAY Sports

Here are five ways the Bears can generate a consistent 10 to 12 rushes for Trubisky, using both the run and pass game along with some of the same concepts Nagy highlighted last season in Kansas City to keep the ball in the hands of Chiefs game-breaker Alex Smith. Outside zone/edge read options With Howard as a decoy, we are talking about a Quarterback who “skates” through holes, with the natural start/stop ability and the lower-body balance to juke off contact. Mitch has some serious wiggle to his game, for a QB that is and that allows him to set up blockers before slicing into the open field, where he produced 1 “explosive run” for 46 yards in 2017. That’s why I would push the ball to the edge of the formation on outside zone (or stretch) runs, inside zones and then unleash the read option. This caters more to his frame at the position while giving Rb's breathers. On an outside read option (see example below), Mitch can read the edge, read the pursuit of the linebackers and decide to hit that outside lane (bang) or hand the ball off to a RB to find open daylight. It’s a classic fit for his Quarterbacking style, and the Bears can sprinkle in some outside bomb plays and RPOs as well to get him juiced up.

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read option This play utilizes the same blocking as the outside zone, and still provides the three cuts available to the RB. Get the eyes of the defenders moving and attack areas of the field. We can go back to Week 1 in 2017 to see how the Chiefs used their RB as that decoy to produce a run game for Alex smith (see example below). But the Bears could hand off the rock to Cohen or Howard twenty two or thirty three times a game. Yes, it’s another fox run all day scheme, but it also allows the Bears to dress up the defense to create an edge for the deep attack. And that play action can be a weapon in most situations. Seal the attacking defenders and give Mitch the opportunity to step up and bomb it or dash through the open alley for six points.

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Screens We should fully expect the Bears to use the standard pro-style screen game with Cohen in the backfield -- especially off play-action to get defenders moving away from the point of attack. But I also like the idea of Cohen catching the ball on bubble and tunnel screens like Hill does in Kansas City (see example below). Put Cohen in the slot, align him in a trips set or bump him out wide, and package those screens with run-pass options. This would allow the Bears to play with both Cohen and Jordan Howard in the game while giving quarterback Mitchell Trubisky the opportunity to take the matchup based off the pre-snap defensive numbers in the box. Hand the ball off to Howard or swing it outside to Cohen on a screen where he now has the numbers, and blockers, to create in space. It’s a high-percentage throw for Trubisky and a simple way to get the ball to Cohen. That’s stealing.

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