IFA signings thus far.

[beckdawg]

Baseball America's top 30
1 Adrian Rondon SS Dominican Republic 6’2″ 180 Rays $3.3 mil
2 Juan De Leon OF Dominican Republic 6’1″ 175 Video Yankees for $2 mil
3 Brayan Hernandez OF Venezuela 6’1″ 175 M's for $1.85 mil
4 Anderson Espinoza RHP Venezuela 6’0″ 170 Video Red Sox for $2 mil
5 Gilbert Lara SS Dominican Republic 6’3″ 205 Video Brewers for $3.2 mil
6 Nelson Gomez 3B Dominican Republic 6’2″ 210 Video Yankees for $2.25
7 Wilkerman Garcia SS Venezuela 5’11″ 170 Video Yankees for $1.35 mil
8 Arquimedes Gamboa SS Venezuela 5’11″ 160 Phillies for $900K
9 Dermis Garcia SS Dominican Republic 6’2″ 185 Video Yankees for $3 mil
10 Juan Meza RHP Venezuela 6’3″ 190 Video Blue Jays for $1.6 mil
11 Christopher Acosta RHP Dominican Republic 6’3″ 170 Video Red Sox for $1.5 mil
12 Pedro Gonzalez SS Dominican Republic 6’4″ 160 Video Rockies for $1.3 mil
13 Kenny Hernandez SS Venezuela 6’0″ 160 Video Mets for $1 mil
14 Huascar Ynoa RHP Dominican Republic 6’2″ 190 Video Twins for $800K
15 Franklin Perez RHP Venezuela 6’4″ 190 Video Astros for $1 mil
16 Miguel Flames C Venezuela 6’2″ 205 Yankees for $1 mil
17 Ricky Aracena SS Dominican Republic 5’7″ 175 Video
18 Hyo-Joon Park SS South Korea 6’2″ 170 Video Yankees for $1.1 mil
19 Miguel Angel Sierra SS Venezuela 6’0″ 160 Video Astros for $1 mil
20 Christopher Torres SS Dominican Republic 6’0″ 170
21 Ricardo Rodriguez C Venezuela 5’10″ 180 Signed with the Padres looking for figures
22 Jonathan Amundaray OF Venezuela 6’2″ 175 Yankees for $1.5 mil
23 Bryan Emery OF Colombia 6’3″ 190
24 Diego Castillo SS Venezuela 5’11″ 150 Yankees for $750K
25 Ronny Rafael OF Dominican Republic 6’1″ 180
26 Amado Nunez SS Dominican Republic 6’2″ 175 Video White Sox for $900K
27 Jesus Sanchez OF Dominican Republic 6’2″ 180 Rays for $400k
28 Antonio Arias OF Venezuela 6’3″ 170 Yankees for $800k
29 Daniel Brito SS Venezuela 6’1″ 140 Phillies for $650k
30 Kevin Vicuna SS Venezuela 5’11″ 140 Blue Jays for 750K

Others
Angels Johan Sala for $300k
Astros Brandon Benavente for [unknown]
Braves Juan Yepez for [unknown]
Cardinals Starling Balbuena for $300k, Junior Fernandez for $400k, Ezequiel Delgado for $125k,
D-Backs Marlon Arroyo for $350k, Remy Cordero for $350k
Dodgers Felix Osorio for $205K, Johan Calderon for $130k, Romer Cuadrado for $750k, Henderson D’Oleo for $165k
Indians Leonardo Rodriguez for $300k, Christopher Cespedes for $200k, Julio Cabrera for $200k, Oscar Gonzalez for $300k, Orlando Cedeno for [unknown], Henderson D’Oleo for $200k
M's Danny Contreras for [unknown], Ismerlin Mota for $295k, Steve Branche for [unknown], Juan De Paula for [unknown]
Giants Bryan Pena for $425k, Sandro Fabian for $500k, Francisco Medina for $115k
Marlins Christian Capellan for $500K, Anderson Castro for $650K, Andres Villalobo for $350,000, Alberto Guerrero for [unknown]
Mets Edgardo Fermin for $250k, Yoel Romero for $300,000, Jhoander Chourio for $130,000, Daniel Guzman for $140k
Nationals Joel Andujar to a $300K, Bryan Bencosme for $400k, Tomas Alastre for [unknown], Juan Evangelista for [unknown]
O's Miguel Gonzalez for $400k
Padres Elvis Sabala for $500K, Eduardo Solano for [unknown], Pedro Beltran for [unknown]
Pirates Yondry Contreras for $400K, Domingo Robles for $175,000, Gabriel Brito for $200k, Christopher Perez for $150k, Brian Sousa $160k
Rangers Jeffrey Nunez for $250K
Red Sox Elwin Tejada for $300,000
Rockies Yeremy Rosario for $800k
Tigers Julio Martinez for $600K
Twins Jean Carlos Arias for $450k
white sox Johandro Alfaro for $750k, Ricardo Mota for $750k, Felix Mercedes for $250k
Yankees Frederick Cuevas for $300k, Servando Hernandez for $200k,

Total pools
1. Astros $5,015,400 - $2 mil
2. Marlins $4,622,400 - $1.5 mil
3. White Sox $4,273,200 - $1.9 mil
4. Cubs $3,962,700
5. Twins $3,686,600 - $1.25k
6. Mariners $3,440,700 - $2.145 mil
7. Phillies $3,221,800 - $1.55 mil
8. Rockies $3,026,700 - $2.1 mil
9. Blue Jays $2,852,900 - $2.35 mil
10. Mets $2,697,800 - $1.82 mil
11. Brewers $2,611,800 - $3.2 mil
12. Padres $2,531,200 - $500k
13. Giants $2,455,300 - $1.04 mil
14. Angels $2,383,700 - $300k
15. Diamondbacks $2,316,600 - $700k
16. Orioles $2,253,100 - $400k
17. Yankees $2,193,100 - $14.25 mil
18. Royals $2,136,800
19. Nationals $2,083,600 - $700k
20. Reds $2,033,400
21. Rangers $2,015,500 - $250k
22. Rays $1,998,100 - $3.7 mil
23. Indians $1,980,700 - $1.2 mil
24. Dodgers $1,963,800 - $1.085 mil
25. Tigers $1,946,900 - $600k
26. Pirates $1,930,400 - $1.085 mil
27. Athletics $1,913,900
28. Braves $1,897,900
29. Red Sox $1,881,700 - $3.8 mil
30. Cardinals $1,866,300- $700k

MLB rules
A team can acquire up to 50 percent of its original draft pool, though the funds must be acquired via slots.
All overages are taxed at 100 percent.
Exceed bonus pool by 5 to 10 percent: Team is not allowed to sign a player for more than $500K in the following international signing period.
Exceed by 10 to 15 percent: Team is not allowed to sign a player for more than $300K in the following international signing period.
Exceed by more than 15 percent: Team is not allowed to sign a player for more than $300K in the following two international signing periods.

Additionally as a penalty from last year cubs can't spend more than $250k this year on one player.

 

[beckdawg]

Also for reference the teams have this in terms of slots as trade pieces to acquire/trade away. I'm color coating each round to make it a bit easier to read. Strikethrough means likely used

1. Astros - #1 $3,300,900, #31 $476,300, #61 $321,600, #91 $216,600
2. Marlins - #2 $2,921,600, #32 $470,100, #62 $317,500, #92 $213,200
3. White Sox - #3 $2,585,800,#33 $464,100, #63 $313,400, #93 $209,900
4. Cubs - #4 $2,288,700, #34 $458,000, #64 $309,300, #94 $206,700
5. Twins - #5 $2,025,800, #35 $452,100, #65 $305,200, #95 $203,500
6. Mariners - #6 $1,792,900, #36 $446,200, #66 $301,300, #96 $200,300
7. Phillies - #7 $1,586,900, #37 $440,300, #67 $297,400, #97 $197,200
8. Rockies - #8 $1,404,500, #38 $434,600, #68 $293,500, #98 $194,100
9. Blue Jays - #9 $1,243,100, #39 $429,000, #69 $289,700, #99 $191,100
10. Mets - #10 $1,100,300, #40 $423,400, #70 $286,000, #100 $188,100
11. Brewers - #11 $1,026,600, #41 $417,800, #71 $282,200, #101 $185,200
12. Padres - #12 $957,900, #42 $412,500, #72 $278,500, #102 $182,300
13. Giants - #13 $893,800, #43 $407,100, #73 $274,900, #103 $179,500
14. Angels - #14 $833,900, #44 $401,800, #74 $271,300, #104 $176,700
15. Diamondbacks - #15 $778,000, #45 $396,700, #75 $267,900, #105 $174,000
16. Orioles - #16 $726,000, #46 $391,500, #76 $264,300, #106 $171,300
17. Yankees - #17 $677,400, #47 $386,300, #77 $260,800, #107 $168,600
18. Royals - #18 $631,900, #48 $381,300, #78 $257,500, #108 $166,100
19. Nationals - #19 $589,600, #49 $376,500, #79 $254,100, #109 $163,400
20. Reds - #20 $550,100, #50 $371,500, #80 $250,900, #110 $160,900
21. Rangers - #21 $543,000, #51 $366,600, #81 $247,600, #111 $158,300
22. Rays - #22 $535,900, #52 $361,900, #82 $244,400, #112 $155,900
23. Indians - #23 $528,900, #53 $357,100, #83 $241,200, #113 $153,500
24. Dodgers - #24 $522,100, #54 $352,600, #84 $238,000, #114 $151,100
25. Tigers - #25 $515,300, #55 $347,900, #85 $234,900, #115 $148,800
26. Pirates - #26 $508,600, #56 $343,400, #86 $232,000, #116 $146,400
27. Athletics - #27 $501,900, #57 $339,000, #87 $228,900, #117 $144,100
28. Braves - #28 $495,400, #58 $334,600, #88 $225,900, #118 $142,000
29. Red Sox - #29 $488,900, #59 $330,200, #89 $222,900, #119 $139,700
30. Cardinals - #30 $482,700, #60 $325,900, #90 $220,100, #120 $137,600

 

[beckdawg]

So, the yanks are already $806,900 over their pool. I'm guessing they haven't formally agreed and will only do so after they add slots. The cubs final 3 slots are worth $974k and are probably the most likely team to trade slots though not the only by any means. The Brewers are also over $588,200. The Rays are $1,301,900 over.

All three teams will have to acquire slots.

Edit: add in the Red Sox to that list. with the addition of Anderson Espinoza they are $1,618,300 over. Seems like a lot of slots may be changing hands this year.

Edit 2: now the yankees are $5,656,900 over. They need a lot of slots... as in more than the cubs entire pool. Acutally... not sure how that's possible if the rule say you can only acquire 50% of their original draft pool. Unless I'm reading that wrong they should only be able to spend $3.3 mil-ish.

Edit 3: just doing some quick math here. Houston has already signed $2 mil which almost assuredly means they've used their #1 slot since they only have $1.0145 mil in their remaining 3. They in theory could get another mil back via trades but that seems rather unlikely. Miami at $1.15 mil may have used their #2 slot however they are only ~$150k over their #32, #62, and #92 slots. So, they could in theory have trade their #2 slot and got someone's 4th round slot. The White Sox having already spent $1.65 mil have almost assuredly used their #3 slot. The Blue Jays likely have used all but their 2nd round slot. Brewers have obviously used their entire pool plus as have the Rays, Red Sox and Yanks. They giants have used their 1st slot and at least their 4th round slot. So, we can kill those slots in the available.

Also, I should probably note that all teams start with a $700k base which AFAIK can't be traded or anything. That tripped me up a bit when trying to figure out how the bonus slots added up to the total.

Edit 4: the Rangers are also in the same $250k spending penalty the cubs are. So, you're probably talking about them moving some of their slots though they have already spent $250k on one player. That leaves them around $1.75 mil of which they can trade ~$1.35

 

[chibears55]

Have to think tomorrow hammel last start as a cub if he to be traded with slot money

 

[nwfisch]

Appreciate you doing all this Beck.

 

[chibears55]

Just curious to know. Could they sign players for the 250,000 this year and increase it next yr..

 

[dabynsky]

Kiley McDaniel ‏@kileymcd 19m
I was wrong, there was one Cubs signing today: Panamanian SS Francisco Garay. Has to be below $250k as penalty for last year's spending.

 

[dabynsky]

Just curious to know. Could they sign players for the 250,000 this year and increase it next yr..

To answer your question they are not allowed to sign players for any sort of contract beyond a standard minor league contract. That means that the only extra money they are allowed to sign players for is the signing bonus they receive at the time of signing. So the Cubs are limited this signing period. Next year they will have no restrictions though.

 

[beckdawg]

Back after a nap with some more updated. Biggest thing is the yanks have a shit load more names though terms are unknown for a lot. They have added Hyo-Joon Park, Antonio Arias, Jonathan Amundaray, Miguel Flames, and Juan De Leon who were #18, #28, #22, #16 and #2 when they already have over $8 mil spent. With those additions they may be over $15 mil now but that's speculation on my part.

 

[SilenceS]

I remember reading last year that the Yankees were going to go hard after this class. They felt like it was a better class then last year.

 

[beckdawg]

Ok so here's the deal, I did a little excel wizardry. Of the prices listed above it appears teams have spent $40,745,000 of the total $79,194,000. I'm assuming the Yanks have spent another $7ish mil alone. However, that's not the whole story because once you use a slot you use all the money allocated with it. It's difficult to say exactly where tames are slot usage wise until you know how much they end up spending. But you can some what guess.

So, as this regards to the cubs, it seems like the cubs will be trading all of their slots because even if they do they still have $700k base they can spend that AFAIK can't be traded. My assumption is that yankees and other teams who attempt to acquire slots will usually try to acquire the max rather than spread it out over a ton of teams. That might be inaccurate for some of the teams who are barely over. For example, last year the cubs made 2-3 trades rather getting it all in one go. However, for a team like the yankees I don't think this is a possibility. The reason is because with the #2 slot the cubs had substantially more starting pool than the Yankees do. If they spend $15 mil like I've suggested, you're talking about them acquiring $13 mil in slots. To do that piecemeal, seems like it would be incredibly risky and also costly in terms of prospects. For example, if you are buying 3rd and 4th round slots from basically every team you're likely to part with 30 or more prospects rather than buying 1/3 of it in a single go for one player that's likely better.

Given those assumptions, if the Yankees have spent $15 mil total then you're essentially talking about something like this

Cubs - $3,262,700(minus $700k they can't trade AFAIK)
Miami - #2 slot $2,921,600(they've already used enough that they have used all their last 3 slots)
Twins - #5 $2,025,80 and #64 $309,300
Astro's - #1 slot for $3,300,900 but they would have to trade back their #77 $260,800, #107 $168,600 slots as the astros have already spent more than their last 3 slots and the base $700k
Yankees - $1,763,700(total pool excluding #77/#107)

That leaves them about $666,000 short.

They would then need to add another $1,010,400 which they could do any number of ways with other teams. Buying all the cards slots would get them there but there's numerous ways like I said. I *think* the yankees have to have an agreement with the cubs for their money if they are spending ~$15 mil. Those teams I listed above are the top 4 in terms of remaining money. They could also possibly get there making 2 trades with 2 of the following teams in certain combos, White Sox, O's, Royals, Angels, Reds, Athletics, Braves, Rangers, Phillies, Mariners D-Backs, Giants, Tigers, and Pirates. Keep in mind that between the Brewers, Rays and Red Sox there's also another $4,208,400 in overages so far which likely knocks two of those teams out too. There's also a lot of teams with unknown amounts here. I excluded the Padres because of this because I'm assuming they have spent a bare minimum of another $1 mil than they are currently showing. Same with the Nationals because I'm assuming they've spent at least another $500k.

 

[dabynsky]

Ok so here's the deal, I did a little excel wizardry. Of the prices listed above it appears teams have spent $40,745,000 of the total $79,194,000. I'm assuming the Yanks have spent another $7ish mil alone. However, that's not the whole story because once you use a slot you use all the money allocated with it. It's difficult to say exactly where tames are slot usage wise until you know how much they end up spending. But you can some what guess.

So, as this regards to the cubs, it seems like the cubs will be trading all of their slots because even if they do they still have $700k base they can spend that AFAIK can't be traded. My assumption is that yankees and other teams who attempt to acquire slots will usually try to acquire the max rather than spread it out over a ton of teams. That might be inaccurate for some of the teams who are barely over. For example, last year the cubs made 2-3 trades rather getting it all in one go. However, for a team like the yankees I don't think this is a possibility. The reason is because with the #2 slot the cubs had substantially more starting pool than the Yankees do. If they spend $15 mil like I've suggested, you're talking about them acquiring $13 mil in slots. To do that piecemeal, seems like it would be incredibly risky and also costly in terms of prospects. For example, if you are buying 3rd and 4th round slots from basically every team you're likely to part with 30 or more prospects rather than buying 1/3 of it in a single go for one player that's likely better.

Given those assumptions, if the Yankees have spent $15 mil total then you're essentially talking about something like this

Cubs - $3,262,700(minus $700k they can't trade AFAIK)
Miami - #2 slot $2,921,600(they've already used enough that they have used all their last 3 slots)
Twins - #5 $2,025,80 and #64 $309,300
Astro's - #1 slot for $3,300,900 but they would have to trade back their #77 $260,800, #107 $168,600 slots as the astros have already spent more than their last 3 slots and the base $700k
Yankees - $1,763,700(total pool excluding #77/#107)

That leaves them about $666,000 short.

They would then need to add another $1,010,400 which they could do any number of ways with other teams. Buying all the cards slots would get them there but there's numerous ways like I said. I *think* the yankees have to have an agreement with the cubs for their money if they are spending ~$15 mil. Those teams I listed above are the top 4 in terms of remaining money. They could also possibly get there making 2 trades with 2 of the following teams in certain combos, White Sox, O's, Royals, Angels, Reds, Athletics, Braves, Rangers, Phillies, Mariners D-Backs, Giants, Tigers, and Pirates. Keep in mind that between the Brewers, Rays and Red Sox there's also another $4,208,400 in overages so far which likely knocks two of those teams out too. There's also a lot of teams with unknown amounts here. I excluded the Padres because of this because I'm assuming they have spent a bare minimum of another $1 mil than they are currently showing. Same with the Nationals because I'm assuming they've spent at least another $500k.

Problem is that the Yankees can't acquire enough to cover everything they spend. You are only allowed to acquire an extra 50% of your original bonus pool. So that means at most they can acquire is a bit over a million dollars in pool money. That does nothing to limit the penalties for next year except save them cash, which the Yankees dgaf about. Honestly a trade target for bonus money might be the Brewers who went big on one guy. Could see a possible deal for slot money from the Cubs for competitive balance draft pick if Brewers get awarded one.

 

[beckdawg]

Problem is that the Yankees can't acquire enough to cover everything they spend. You are only allowed to acquire an extra 50% of your original bonus pool. So that means at most they can acquire is a bit over a million dollars in pool money. That does nothing to limit the penalties for next year except save them cash, which the Yankees dgaf about. Honestly a trade target for bonus money might be the Brewers who went big on one guy. Could see a possible deal for slot money from the Cubs for competitive balance draft pick if Brewers get awarded one.

That's where I'm confused. I was under the impression you have to have slots to sign players. As in if you have $5 mil in slots you can only sign $5 mil in players unless you acquire more slots. Is that not the case? Is it something like they can still sign players just at a giant tax penalty or something? Because if so that makes no fucking sense to me. The point in doing this slot thing was to reward the bad teams to make them better. But if the yankees can go in and spend $15 mil on a $2 mil pool and just have to face a tax penalty doesn't that defeat the purpose?

 

[dabynsky]

That's where I'm confused. I was under the impression you have to have slots to sign players. As in if you have $5 mil in slots you can only sign $5 mil in players unless you acquire more slots. Is that not the case? Is it something like they can still sign players just at a giant tax penalty or something? Because if so that makes no fucking sense to me. The point in doing this slot thing was to reward the bad teams to make them better. But if the yankees can go in and spend $15 mil on a $2 mil pool and just have to face a tax penalty doesn't that defeat the purpose?

The deal is this. You can sign anyone you want, but once you burn past your pool you can't acquire more slots. The other thing you have to remember with all these deals breaking is that none of them are official yet. They will happen because breaking your word on either side is a huge breach of protocol that burns you long term, but no the Yankees are setting themselves up to have the max penalties figuring that by going nuts this year outweighs the cost of being limited for two years in max bonuses you can offer. Cubs got the second highest penalty which was just a one year limit.

 

[nwfisch]

Anyone worth :faping over?

 

[beckdawg]

The deal is this. You can sign anyone you want, but once you burn past your pool you can't acquire more slots.

Ok but what I'm saying is if the Yankees can only acquire roughly $1 mil then how can they spend $15 mil on people? In other words, do they get $3 mil after acquiring slots and then the $12 mil becomes "overages" and that's just taxed at 100% rate. I was under the assumption that "overages" was anything over your base pool. In other words if you had $5 mil pool if you acquired 15% more than that in slots you would pay the penalty in taxes and would be unable to sign players over $250k.

If it's the first case then it just seems like a terrible system to me because the only reason to even bother acquiring slots is to save yourself 100% tax on a couple of million dollars tops. The Astros with the top bonus money can only acquire $2.5 mil which even taxed at 100% would only save a team $2.5 mil which is honestly pennies to these teams. And additionally the elephant in the room is the system really does nothing to help the worst teams. It just makes it more annoying for large market teams but not impossible.

 

[beckdawg]

Anyone worth :faping over?

Most of these guys are 16 or 17. So if you're fapping to any of them I'm pretty sure that counts as pedophilia

 

[dabynsky]

Ok but what I'm saying is if the Yankees can only acquire roughly $1 mil then how can they spend $15 mil on people? In other words, do they get $3 mil after acquiring slots and then the $12 mil becomes "overages" and that's just taxed at 100% rate. I was under the assumption that "overages" was anything over your base pool. In other words if you had $5 mil pool if you acquired 15% more than that in slots you would pay the penalty in taxes and would be unable to sign players over $250k.

If it's the first case then it just seems like a terrible system to me because the only reason to even bother acquiring slots is to save yourself 100% tax on a couple of million dollars tops. The Astros with the top bonus money can only acquire $2.5 mil which even taxed at 100% would only save a team $2.5 mil which is honestly pennies to these teams. And additionally the elephant in the room is the system really does nothing to help the worst teams. It just makes it more annoying for large market teams but not impossible.

Okay the Yankees have 2.1 million now in bonus pool money. They can acquire up to half of that amount in extra bonus pool money. They can spend whatever they want and here are the penalties:

All overages are taxed at 100 percent.
Exceed bonus pool by 5 to 10 percent: Team is not allowed to sign a player for more than $500K in the following international signing period.
Exceed by 10 to 15 percent: Team is not allowed to sign a player for more than $300K in the following international signing period.
Exceed by more than 15 percent: Team is not allowed to sign a player for more than $300K in the following two international signing periods.

Last year the Cubs fell into that second range of penalties. The Yankees clearly are going well beyond the top regardless of whether they acquire bonus pool slots or not.

 

[Boobaby1]

In the AZL, last years recruit Eloy Jimenez went 2 for 4 and hit his first professional HR. He has 4 hits in his first 9 ABs including a double and a HR.

This is a big young boy if any of you have not seen him standing next to Manny.

http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/files/2014/07/ELOY-MANNY.jpg

 

[dabynsky]

In the AZL, last years recruit Eloy Jimenez went 2 for 4 and hit his first professional HR. He has 4 hits in his first 9 ABs including a double and a HR.

This is a big young boy if any of you have not seen him standing next to Manny.

http://www.chicagonow.com/cubs-den/files/2014/07/ELOY-MANNY.jpg

The fact that three of the Cubs IFA signings from last year are already stateside is an amazing feat (Jimenez, Torres, and Tseng).