Indy vs Giants earlier in year

[mac bear]

Just watched Indy vs Giants on NFL network. Eerily similar situations to end game.

Giants up by six. Indy pulls solid drive to score and go up by one, 27-26. :55 seconds left on clock. One timeout.

I paid more attention, not remembering the out come. Touch back on kickoff. Two short outs to Shaquan.

The deep over the middle... and interception. Game over.

I thought—if that had been our result, whoah, would the reporting, would Chicago, not be in a completely different place now.

Yesterday, morning sports radio I listen to daily, on a segment called, “you gotta hear this”, I found myself laughing almost hysterically to the 7 different versions of the call of Parkey’s missed (er, I mean blocked) field goal in different languages.

I will remember, and almost forget at same time, more the kick doink than if Mitch pitches an INT.

You?


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[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

Just watched Indy vs Giants on NFL network. Eerily similar situations to end game.

Giants up by six. Indy pulls solid drive to score and go up by one, 27-26. :55 seconds left on clock. One timeout.

I paid more attention, not remembering the out come. Touch back on kickoff. Two short outs to Shaquan.

The deep over the middle... and interception. Game over.

I thought—if that had been our result, whoah, would the reporting, would Chicago, not be in a completely different place now.

Yesterday, morning sports radio I listen to daily, on a segment called, “you gotta hear this”, I found myself laughing almost hysterically to the 7 different versions of the call of Parkey’s missed (er, I mean blocked) field goal in different languages.

I will remember, and almost forget at same time, more the kick doink than if Mitch pitches an INT.

You?


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Well, my brain works differently in that I do not have the ability to both remember and forget at the same time (??) but I am not sure the point here. Mitch > old Eli? I guess so. Maybe Nagy > Shurmur is your point? I already suspected that was true when the Bears were on the HC search last year. As for how we take the loss yes "Parkey lost it" is a much better zone to be in than "Mitch lost it".

The problem is Mitch is NOT off the hook either though imo (and many others here). His awful play in the first 3 quarters coupled with Nagy's lack of adjusting to Philly led us to the close score in the 4th.

Many blind loyalists to Mitch will point out how LONG it took Nagy to adjust to the over-the-top routes that Philly was leaving wide open all game long, and they are correct. They also fail to acknowledge that it is Nagy's lack of trust in Mitch's downfield accuracy that led him to hesitate so long on putting the game in his QB's arm rather than leaning on his elite defense and keeping his playcalls squarely with the short game (and also in the teeth of what the Philly D was doing) and hoping for a survival type of win.

To both Nagy and Mitch's credit, Nagy opened it up in the 4th and Mitch did very well and with a professional kicker, we are practicing in LA today.

But a lack of trust in Mitch's downfield accuracy got that game to a point it should not have, and before people go too hard on Nagy, it should be noted that it was not irrational for Nagy to hesitate on putting the game in Mitch's long ball because he really IS that poor at that part of his game (and WHY Schwartz called the defense the way he did).

In short, yes it would have been worse if Mitch threw the INT rather than Parkey missing a FG, but the narrative is still that Chicago will go as far as Mitch can take us.

The discussion on Mitch's trustworthiness and need to grow more will still be ongoing between the worshippers, the haters and the in-between rational observers. Nothing really will change there imo.

 

[Rory Sparrow]

Just watched Indy vs Giants on NFL network. Eerily similar situations to end game.

Giants up by six. Indy pulls solid drive to score and go up by one, 27-26. :55 seconds left on clock. One timeout.

I paid more attention, not remembering the out come. Touch back on kickoff.

To me, the aspect that I guess is overlooked is Cohen's kick return. He put the Bears almost at midfield (what was Doug Pederson thinking?!) and the momentum had already swung back to Chicago. So much praise heaped on Trubisky for "driving" the Bears downfield, but all he really did was go 25 yards with one minute and one timeout. I thought the Bears/Nagy/Trubisky kind of screwed up that last drive. The last play from scrimmage HAD to be productive...either a TD or a gain of yardage to the sidelines. If Trubisky is throwing to the endzone because of 1-on-1 coverage, he HAS to give his WR a chance to make a catch or draw a PI, even if there is a chance for an INT the other way. To knowingly let the outcome rest on Parkey's leg from 40+ was insane.

 

[dabears584]

I think OP probably just remembers a game that ended in a similar fashion as the Bears game did and wanted to share it with us and compare it to the Bears game.

 

[dabears584]

To me, the aspect that I guess is overlooked is Cohen's kick return. He put the Bears almost at midfield (what was Doug Pederson thinking?!) and the momentum had already swung back to Chicago. So much praise heaped on Trubisky for "driving" the Bears downfield, but all he really did was go 25 yards with one minute and one timeout. I thought the Bears/Nagy/Trubisky kind of screwed up that last drive. The last play from scrimmage HAD to be productive...either a TD or a gain of yardage to the sidelines. If Trubisky is throwing to the endzone because of 1-on-1 coverage, he HAS to give his WR a chance to make a catch or draw a PI, even if there is a chance for an INT the other way. To knowingly let the outcome rest on Parkey's leg from 40+ was insane.

I agree.

 

[Les Grossman]

To me, the aspect that I guess is overlooked is Cohen's kick return. He put the Bears almost at midfield (what was Doug Pederson thinking?!) and the momentum had already swung back to Chicago. So much praise heaped on Trubisky for "driving" the Bears downfield, but all he really did was go 25 yards with one minute and one timeout. I thought the Bears/Nagy/Trubisky kind of screwed up that last drive. The last play from scrimmage HAD to be productive...either a TD or a gain of yardage to the sidelines. If Trubisky is throwing to the endzone because of 1-on-1 coverage, he HAS to give his WR a chance to make a catch or draw a PI, even if there is a chance for an INT the other way. To knowingly let the outcome rest on Parkey's leg from 40+ was insane.

Completely disagree with the bolded part of your post. You ABSOLUTELY cannot give up the opportunity to kick the game winning FG. That has a better chance than a game winning TD from that distance. By far.

 

[Rory Sparrow]

Completely disagree with the bolded part of your post. You ABSOLUTELY cannot give up the opportunity to kick the game winning FG. That has a better chance than a game winning TD from that distance. By far.

(Somewhat) Disagree!

Not sure what Trubisky had to have seen from the defense on that play, because he was either dreadfully inaccurate or simply throwing the ball away. But if he was throwing the ball away, he had the 1-on-1 matchup that (presumably) he was looking for. So if he sees the matchup he wants, and still decides to throw the ball away, I guess Trubisky wanted the Eagle DB to "pull an Alabama" and simply collapse at the snap of the football, or for the Eagles to somehow have no one covering his WR in the endzone. And if that is the case, then I'd rather the Bears try for a short 5-yard sideline pass to improve Parkey's chances. I thought that last play was a failure.

 

[mac bear]

Well, my brain works differently in that I do not have the ability to both remember and forget at the same time (??) but I am not sure the point here. Mitch > old Eli? I guess so. Maybe Nagy > Shurmur is your point? I already suspected that was true when the Bears were on the HC search last year. As for how we take the loss yes "Parkey lost it" is a much better zone to be in than "Mitch lost it".

The « at the same time » comment links to Perks of being a Wallflower » (book, I am an English teacher), « I am both happy and sad at the same time and still trying to figure out why ».

It was not really an attempt at comparing the Giants vs Bears, coaching or playing. More just contextual. I was half watching game, tillIndy scored with :55 left—1 point up.

Hmm, how’d that team handle it.

And led to

This:

In short, yes it would have been worse if Mitch threw the INT rather than Parkey missing a FG, but the narrative is still that Chicago will go as far as Mitch can!


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[mac bear]

To me, the aspect that I guess is overlooked is Cohen's kick return. He put the Bears almost at midfield (what was Doug Pederson thinking?!) and the momentum had already swung back to Chicago. So much praise heaped on Trubisky for "driving" the Bears downfield, but all he really did was go 25 yards with one minute and one timeout. I thought the Bears/Nagy/Trubisky kind of screwed up that last drive. The last play from scrimmage HAD to be productive...either a TD or a gain of yardage to the sidelines. If Trubisky is throwing to the endzone because of 1-on-1 coverage, he HAS to give his WR a chance to make a catch or draw a PI, even if there is a chance for an INT the other way. To knowingly let the outcome rest on Parkey's leg from 40+ was insane.

A lot of yup here.

Love the overlooked Cohen comment. What was Pederson thinking? Kick it through the end zone. And, over looked—maybe their kicker screwed the pooch on that.

Look at narrative had we won, Via Parkey or Trubs, then, THAT kicker/ coach/ unit failed.

Amazing how it all is a game of inches, cliche or otherwise.


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[mac bear]

(Somewhat) Disagree!

Not sure what Trubisky had to have seen from the defense on that play, because he was either dreadfully inaccurate or simply throwing the ball away. But if he was throwing the ball away, he had the 1-on-1 matchup that (presumably) he was looking for. So if he sees the matchup he wants, and still decides to throw the ball away, I guess Trubisky wanted the Eagle DB to "pull an Alabama" and simply collapse at the snap of the football, or for the Eagles to somehow have no one covering his WR in the endzone. And if that is the case, then I'd rather the Bears try for a short 5-yard sideline pass to improve Parkey's chances. I thought that last play was a failure.

In the Indy /Giants game cited above, Eli did two short 5 yard outs, to advance 7 and 8 respectively. And preserve clock.

Then, still with a timeout and 33 or more ticks on clock, he went balls out 35 yard pass over the middle into a safety’s waiting arms.

And that get me here thinking, thank god for us all that that didn’t happen.


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[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

(Somewhat) Disagree!

Not good enough.