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KC Johnson: Bulls rank 27th in offensive rebounds allowed per game.
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We force a lot of misses...and give up a lot of those misses back to the other team. I suppose if our rebounding was as good as previous years, we'd be averaging dang near 50 defensive boards per game.
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Seems many people blame Gasol for this. Add in the fact that Noah and Gibson really haven't been healthy this year and you may arrive at this stat.
Our total rebounding is as good as any year, but we're just giving up too many 2nd chance points.
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Well...they may be partially correct. I think Gasol is forcing a lot of those misses but then he's out of position for the rebound. Whereas with Boozer, he never forced a miss, but he was always there for the rebound. It's a trade off. Noah being out on the perimeter more plus being injured contributes as well. I think our guards in general aren't really pulling in boards as much as in past years either. Lot of things.
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I've mentioned this fact all season long. It's the one major disturbing trend that has not been fixed all year. It will be a problem in the playoffs too and hopefully isn't our downfall.
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IMO, this is attributable to Noah and Gasol's obvious lack of chemistry. That, and of course Rose and Jimmy missing time. The latter should fix itself, just gotta hope the former does as well.
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When your C is beyond the top of the key running the offense and no one else crashes the boards what do you expect? I sure hope Thib's gets rid of this offense in the playoffs. I don't like Noah setting the pick on the pick and roll/pop either.
Noah's a great passer, but he should stay down low all the time and crash the boards on offense, imo. Pau should set the picks and stay outside with his shot. Rose should come back and be the main facilitator, not the main scorer.
Rose and Pau play off each other very well on the pick and pop, imo. Rose will have Pau, Dunn, and Niko to dish to. Noah needs to cleanup on the boards, period, in the playoffs.
Noah's a great passer, but he should stay down low all the time and crash the boards on offense, imo. Pau should set the picks and stay outside with his shot. Rose should come back and be the main facilitator, not the main scorer.
Rose and Pau play off each other very well on the pick and pop, imo. Rose will have Pau, Dunn, and Niko to dish to. Noah needs to cleanup on the boards, period, in the playoffs.
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The C ran the offense last year and they didn't have this problem.
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What was the result? Who was the PG?
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I'm starting to think you should be the Bulls Homer Boy, and I used to thing I was that guy, LOL.
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Nope. I just don't like silly reasoning.
The Bulls had no problem with the O-Boards last year.
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Offensive rebounds ALLOWED per game....
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My mistake, I've been thinking about the Bulls offensive approach in the playoffs so much I went off on my own tangent I guess. I really want to see Rose facilitate moreso in the playoffs and set the other guys up. And yes, I want Noah on the boards and not running the offense.
As far as rebounds allowed, I don't expect that to be a big problem, myself, as if the Bulls averaged 2 less per game, they would move up to 3rd in the NBA. There's not a big difference between the Bulls 11.7/game compared to the #1 ranking of 8.8/game. Especially since the Bulls are #6 in defensive rebounds.
I chalk it up to the Bulls just showing up and losing games they should win. I expect, hopefully, that playoff basketball changes their defense.
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although they do need to get rid of Noah passing from the high post or atleast not go to it on every single play
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They will when Rose returns, but Noah has been successful at that. And last year they didn't have this offensive rebounding problem with Noah playing point most of the season.
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bulls have a problem with boxing people out. Too worried about getting on offense.
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Noah playing point has nothing to do with giving up offensive rebounds.
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its the team as a whole
they don't play like they are interested which has concerned me all year
maybe they are just taking it easy...we'll see what happens in the playoffs
if they don't take it up a few notches then im 100% confident this team has soured on Thibs
they don't play like they are interested which has concerned me all year
maybe they are just taking it easy...we'll see what happens in the playoffs
if they don't take it up a few notches then im 100% confident this team has soured on Thibs
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This is an age thing. Offensive rebounds are largely luck, but good foot quickness can eliminate some of the them. We aren't losing the ball in the air, but with Noah less than 100%, Gasol's age, and Dunleavy's age, (and both of their lateral quickness), its important for them to have good rebounding guards like Rose and Butler.
The issue has been the starting 5 not playing together and this lateral quickness issue. Boozer was a big space eater that owned his space and kept bodies off Noah and others. Gasol rebounds in the air even better than Booze with his length, however, if it gets by him he can't move his feet too well. Meanwhile Noah is a bit undersized in the NBA for C.
The issue has been the starting 5 not playing together and this lateral quickness issue. Boozer was a big space eater that owned his space and kept bodies off Noah and others. Gasol rebounds in the air even better than Booze with his length, however, if it gets by him he can't move his feet too well. Meanwhile Noah is a bit undersized in the NBA for C.
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Good teams amp it up significantly in the playoffs.