KW vs Ozzie: Irreconcilable Differences

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Kenny Williams-Ozzie Guillen Beyond Repair

Cowley is an assbag idiot but he cites major league sources as saying that the relationship between Ozzie and Kenny is beyond repair.

The White Sox have also apparently begun preliminary efforts in a search for a new manager including talking to the Marlins about compensation for Ozzie yet again.

I personally have had enough....they both need to go at this point. Hahn needs to be the GM and we need a new manager and coaching staff.

"There have been at least two known heated blowups between Guillen and Williams, according to sources. But even more significant is the recent talk in baseball circles that the White Sox have been getting a feel for managerial candidates. Sources said that also included renewing talks with the Florida Marlins about compensation for Guillen with the team set to open its new stadium next season."

“Let’s get this straight: I’m the face of the franchise,’’ Guillen said. “People can say what they want. There’s a lot of blame going around out there, but I blame myself because I guess I’m the one with the balls around here. It’s not because I’m cocky or an arrogant guy, but I can leave Chicago with my head up. That’s what’s important to me.

“Jerry is the one that has to decide on if [Kenny and I] can make it work. We’re doing it, getting by. We’re not best friends, but we make due. We’re professional. We do what’s best for the ballclub. Our job is more important than our friendship.

The bolded comments are telling. Ozzie is basically saying Kenny has no balls. And he flat out admits that they don't get along at all.
 
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kenny can stay, ozzie can go.

with 1 year left on the deal, get some compensation.

oh if they moved him back last year and got stanton.
 

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FLA would love to have Ozzie as their next manager, to help sell their ballpark. An agreement after the season between CWS/FLA makes sense.
 

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Promote KW and appoint Hahn to GM. Kick Ozzie down to South Beach and tell the Guillens to of Chicago.


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And the idea that KW is given a new VP title, Hahn is made GM and Oz stays - not an option at least two of the three would settle for.

10 hours ago
 

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And the idea that KW is given a new VP title, Hahn is made GM and Oz stays - not an option at least two of the three would settle for.

10 hours ago

If Oz stays, I'm out. Another year of him is like a stab to the chest.
 

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Promote KW and appoint Hahn to GM. Kick Ozzie down to South Beach and tell the Guillens to :gtfo: of Chicago.

Sounds perfect.
 

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I'm tired of both KW and Ozzie.

Ozzie is an incompetent decision-maker on the field and there is some speculation that the boneheaded decisions he makes are to setup KW.

I'm tired of KW. He is incompetent when it comes to the farm system and as of late, when it comes to free agency and trades.

I don't want a "one stays, one goes" setup. Because if Ozzie goes and KW stays, I sure as hell don't trust KW to be one of the decision-makers on who becomes the next manager.
 

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Ozzie and Walker are the first two that need to go

KW im more ambivalent about...although at some point i think Hahn should become GM
 

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Ozzie and Walker are the first two that need to go

KW im more ambivalent about...although at some point i think Hahn should become GM

Exactly. Walker and Ozzie are the two biggest problems the Sox have.
KW is a problem, and Hahn should be the new GM.
I don't want the Sox to rush into anything this summer though.
 

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Ozzie should play Dunn so that he gets enough ABs to make him the worst BA hitter in the history of the game for one season. Sure would look like a great pick up by the GM :)
 

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Ozzie should play Dunn so that he gets enough ABs to make him the worst BA hitter in the history of the game for one season. Sure would look like a great pick up by the GM :)

Im sure you were wanting to spoon with KW the minute the news broke that they had signed adam dunn.
 

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Ozzie should play Dunn so that he gets enough ABs to make him the worst BA hitter in the history of the game for one season. Sure would look like a great pick up by the GM :)

So you want Ozzie to be dumb so that KW gets blamed for it. Isn't that what this whole thread is about?
 

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