Laremy Tunsil Trade

[Collins77]

Looks like the Texans will be shopping Tunsil, would a Mack or Quinn deal work? Would the apples and oranges line up? With Texans being in rebuild mode would they even be interested in 2 older pass rushers? Whadda ya think? He could solve our blind side problems. I was hoping for Eric Fisher from Indy. He would be a solid FA signing but I think Tunsil is better and younger.

 

[Luke]

Looks like the Texans will be shopping Tunsil, would a Mack or Quinn deal work? Would the apples and oranges line up? With Texans being in rebuild mode would they even be interested in 2 older pass rushers? Whadda ya think? He could solve our blind side problems. I was hoping for Eric Fisher from Indy. He would be a solid FA signing but I think Tunsil is better and younger.

his collection of bongs and associated paraphernalia must be part of any deal.

 

[Collins77]

Lol, forgot about that. Hey, he could get some endorsement deals from Governor Pritzkers Medical Marijuana shops.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

This team doesn’t need to be trading assets. They need to be ACQUIRING assets…. Without giving talent up. No trading picks for players. No trading players for players. The End.

 

[BearFanJohn]

Might trade one of them-maybe. Definitely not both.

 

[dennehy]

No, Texans are going to want to want draft capital.

Plus he's going to cost a ton more than the space you'd free up from either Mack or Quinn becuase of al the bonus money the Bears would havde to eat.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Bears fans: “Ryan Pace was a terrible GM”
Also bears fans: “should we trade x pick for x player”

 

[RacerX]

This team doesn’t need to be trading assets. They need to be ACQUIRING assets…. Without giving talent up. No trading picks for players. No trading players for players. The End.

Not sure if serious?

 

[WELL USED PUCK]

Would this lead to other players contracting tunsilitis?

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Not sure if serious?

What don’t you understand? 100% serious,

 

[RacerX]

What don’t you understand? 100% serious,

No offense, Sheep, but questions:

1. It's magical thinking that we are going to acquire assets without giving up assets. Which of the other 31 teams is asking "hey, why can't we give up players and/or draft picks to the Bears without getting anything in return?" It's an absurd notion.

2. I can never comprehend when anyone says to trade Player A or never trade Player A. That's fan-boy thinking. All players have value relative to their contracts and profile, some have positive value, others negative value, and some are market-rate (i.e., neutral). All players, that is every player should always be on tradable if there is a positive return on the transaction.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

No offense, Sheep, but questions:

1. It's magical thinking that we are going to acquire assets without giving up assets. Which of the other 31 teams is asking "hey, why can't we give up players and/or draft picks to the Bears without getting anything in return?" It's an absurd notion.

2. I can never comprehend when anyone says to trade Player A or never trade Player A. That's fan-boy thinking. All players have value relative to their contracts and profile, some have positive value, others negative value, and some are market-rate (i.e., neutral). All players, that is every player should always be on tradable if there is a positive return on the transaction.

You don’t need to give anything up to draft or sign a player.

Why trade Mack or Quinn for a player? You’re just solving one problem by creating another.

 

[napo55]

You don’t need to give anything up to draft or sign a player.

Why trade Mack or Quinn for a player? You’re just solving one problem by creating another.

The argument would be to trade older players for draft choices or younger players because this team is not going to contend in Mack or Quinn's remaining playing career.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

The argument would be to trade older players for draft choices or younger players because this team is not going to contend in Mack or Quinn's remaining playing career.

I get the argument. Trading players for draft picks is much different than trading players for other expensive players. If you want to “blow it up” and get picks and clear cap space that’s fine. (If that’s the route they choose). But the player for player thing is what I think is extremely dumb.

 

[RacerX]

You don’t need to give anything up to draft or sign a player.

Why trade Mack or Quinn for a player? You’re just solving one problem by creating another.

Answer: what @napo55 said above.

Have a look at Mack and Quinn closely, their age, their cap hit, and their injury history and no team is giving up some huge haul in return, it’s just not gonna happen.

This roster should be constructed to compete in 2-4 years at best, those great but old vets are not part of the team’s future competitive window.

It’s a fool’s bet to push the chips in to compete this year, way too many holes to fill and shite draft assets and cap room.

 

[RacerX]

I get the argument. Trading players for draft picks is much different than trading players for other expensive players. If you want to “blow it up” and get picks and clear cap space that’s fine. (If that’s the route they choose). But the player for player thing is what I think is extremely dumb.

Why is that dumb if you can get greater value in return or trade a depth position to fill a need?

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Why is that dumb if you can get greater value in return or trade a depth position to fill a need?

Cool. You solved LT and now you need an edge. It’s just rearranging the chairs in the Titanic.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Answer: what @napo55 said above.

Have a look at Mack and Quinn closely, their age, their cap hit, and their injury history and no team is giving up some huge haul in return, it’s just not gonna happen.

This roster should be constructed to compete in 2-4 years at best, those great but old vets are not part of the team’s future competitive window.

It’s a fool’s bet to push the chips in to compete this year, way too many holes to fill and shite draft assets and cap room.

You say no team is giving up a huge return and yet you’re in a thread that proposes trading one for Tunsil. Make up your mind. Are they valuable or not?

 

[RacerX]

Cool. You solved LT and now you need an edge. It’s just rearranging the chairs in the Titanic.

Yes, the thread title is about a LT, but that’s not what you and I are debating.

I did not mention any position, my point is that, yes, especially during a period of rebuilding if you can incrementally improve roster/contract value in a trade than you do it, period. Fixing all the holes is not an option in one offseason.

 

[RacerX]

You say no team is giving up a huge return and yet you’re in a thread that proposes trading one for Tunsil. Make up your mind. Are they valuable or not?

No, that is a mischaracterization of anything I said. I sad nothing of Tunsil and my comment on Mack/Quinn was limited to countering your belief that they hold some great value relative to their age/contract/injuries. They don’t.