Hoodey
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The Bears, like the Bulls, have been living the lie for quite sometime.
Honestly, their window was rather small. They had Urlacher and then in the middle of last decade they had two really good drafts and a couple other huge picks. Thus, 2006. But Harris' injury and subsequent lack of worth really hurt them.
I went to Purdue and like Kyle Orton, but of course that wasn't working out. The decision should have been made to do a full rebuild from the ground up. Rex Grossman wasn't good enough, Kyle Orton wasn't good enough and there's a problem with Cutler.
You need to DRAFT Jay Cutler onto your own team for it to be a good move. Why? Because you give two first rounders to get him and then draft low after that. Where are the playmakers YOU pick in the top 10-15 in the first round? Your megatron and Suh? And if you say Detroit isn't that good, awesome, you're making my point for me. If you do think they're good, you realize that the amount we gave up to get Jay left us without the opportunity to get Suh and Johnson or whoever.
YOU need to DRAFT a player like Jay so you can still suck for a couple years and get top picks, or draft him after you have good top picks on your team. Every team who wants to win a SB likely needs a top QB .. you can debate that to some extent; I know Baltimore is not happy with Flacco for example. BUT, what you can't debate is that top QB or no top QB, you need probably 2 big time playmakers on your team, likely top pick types. When you trade two first rounders for a QB who will likely always keep you over 8 wins, you never have an opportunity to get those players.
That's where the lie comes in. There's always two conflicting priorities in running a sports team. Dollars or titles. They usually don't go hand in hand. Were the Bears unwilling to dump the Orton incarnation of the franchise and suck for a couple years to stockpile players? What would that do to season tickets and all other revenue separate their fixed revenue.
I mean, that's how the Bulls and Bears run their franchise. They're not so much trying to do the things to win a title as much as they're trying to sell you on plausible deniability. "Hey, you can't say we're not in it." Get you to believe into the second round or second week of the playoffs if they can get there and then if they don't win at that point, they already have a lot of your money.
This teams window is closed. You simply can't put enough playmakers around Cutler because you won't draft high enough. So you will die a slow death trying to live the dream with what you have.
If the Bears want to win a TITLE, they'll see what happens this year and if it's not going to happen, they'll go young and the only long term commitments will be Jeffery, Long, Bostic and a few others... no Briggs, Peppers, Cutler, Marshall, etc.
Cutler, as good as he is just proves there are no shortcuts. You can't suck at drafting QBs, see a good one and overpay for him. That's the easy road which often gets harder. The hard road which often gets easier is... stop sucking at identifying and drafting QBs.
Just like Noah and Deng on the Bulls. The Bulls will NEVER EVER win a title with those two as their 2nd and 3rd best players. The easy way is ride it out and sell your regular season championships. The hard way is to go trade for a DeMarcus Cousins or WHOEVER (2nd stars in the NBA are rarely actually already STARS when the team that they become stars for ACQUIRES them - who the F had ever heard of Scottie Pippen the night he was acquired by Chicago) and maybe suffer for a year or two in the regular season standings.
I'm tired of teams in this town other than the Blackhawks and Cubs (I HATE giving them credit but at least they aren't lying about a fake contender) not having the balls to tell their fans "we were wrong and we're going to scrap it and do it the right way."
Honestly, their window was rather small. They had Urlacher and then in the middle of last decade they had two really good drafts and a couple other huge picks. Thus, 2006. But Harris' injury and subsequent lack of worth really hurt them.
I went to Purdue and like Kyle Orton, but of course that wasn't working out. The decision should have been made to do a full rebuild from the ground up. Rex Grossman wasn't good enough, Kyle Orton wasn't good enough and there's a problem with Cutler.
You need to DRAFT Jay Cutler onto your own team for it to be a good move. Why? Because you give two first rounders to get him and then draft low after that. Where are the playmakers YOU pick in the top 10-15 in the first round? Your megatron and Suh? And if you say Detroit isn't that good, awesome, you're making my point for me. If you do think they're good, you realize that the amount we gave up to get Jay left us without the opportunity to get Suh and Johnson or whoever.
YOU need to DRAFT a player like Jay so you can still suck for a couple years and get top picks, or draft him after you have good top picks on your team. Every team who wants to win a SB likely needs a top QB .. you can debate that to some extent; I know Baltimore is not happy with Flacco for example. BUT, what you can't debate is that top QB or no top QB, you need probably 2 big time playmakers on your team, likely top pick types. When you trade two first rounders for a QB who will likely always keep you over 8 wins, you never have an opportunity to get those players.
That's where the lie comes in. There's always two conflicting priorities in running a sports team. Dollars or titles. They usually don't go hand in hand. Were the Bears unwilling to dump the Orton incarnation of the franchise and suck for a couple years to stockpile players? What would that do to season tickets and all other revenue separate their fixed revenue.
I mean, that's how the Bulls and Bears run their franchise. They're not so much trying to do the things to win a title as much as they're trying to sell you on plausible deniability. "Hey, you can't say we're not in it." Get you to believe into the second round or second week of the playoffs if they can get there and then if they don't win at that point, they already have a lot of your money.
This teams window is closed. You simply can't put enough playmakers around Cutler because you won't draft high enough. So you will die a slow death trying to live the dream with what you have.
If the Bears want to win a TITLE, they'll see what happens this year and if it's not going to happen, they'll go young and the only long term commitments will be Jeffery, Long, Bostic and a few others... no Briggs, Peppers, Cutler, Marshall, etc.
Cutler, as good as he is just proves there are no shortcuts. You can't suck at drafting QBs, see a good one and overpay for him. That's the easy road which often gets harder. The hard road which often gets easier is... stop sucking at identifying and drafting QBs.
Just like Noah and Deng on the Bulls. The Bulls will NEVER EVER win a title with those two as their 2nd and 3rd best players. The easy way is ride it out and sell your regular season championships. The hard way is to go trade for a DeMarcus Cousins or WHOEVER (2nd stars in the NBA are rarely actually already STARS when the team that they become stars for ACQUIRES them - who the F had ever heard of Scottie Pippen the night he was acquired by Chicago) and maybe suffer for a year or two in the regular season standings.
I'm tired of teams in this town other than the Blackhawks and Cubs (I HATE giving them credit but at least they aren't lying about a fake contender) not having the balls to tell their fans "we were wrong and we're going to scrap it and do it the right way."
