Matt Stafford

[Discus fish salesman]

I think im a little confused at what the discussion has turned into. I would absolutely take Stafford and he would be a massive upgrade. Lions will never trade him within the division though.

As far as what Stafford is...hes a top 15 qb in the NFL which I would take any day of the week. Lions front office has failed him more than he has failed them.

 

[Midway Fields]

I think im a little confused at what the discussion has turned into. I would absolutely take Stafford and he would be a massive upgrade. Lions will never trade him within the division though.

As far as what Stafford is...hes a top 15 qb in the NFL which I would take any day of the week. Lions front office has failed him more than he has failed them.

I appreciate your rational contributions.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Jay Cutler did too lol. that's what happens when you play for garbage incomplete teams. guys like Rodgers don't lead in 4th quarter comebacks because they never fell behind to begin with. even in the flashes where the Lions were "good" they were always kittens. it's unconscionable that the Bears lost that 2nd game to them this season. or that the 1st one came down to a pass in the endzone that got dropped.

Right, what I mean is he's not a bad QB. He's definitely better than Cutler.

 

[ChiKhan]

Wins are not a QB stat here's some examples.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1346304510797504512

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1345074669905465344

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Matt Ryan vs. Matt Stafford: Career statistical comparison (usatoday.com) - probably the best comparison to Stafford and you guys are saying you'd pass on Matt Ryan? Or just because Stafford is on a loser org he automatically is not good? lol geezus.

 

[Hbkrusso]

Just draft a qb no more retreads

 

[SD Bears Fan]

The Stat Padford thing is a cute and clever nickname but it runs into one major issue: it's not true. If you want to see stat padding please refer to something more like 2020 Deshaun Watson. Stafford's statistics are pretty modest and you wont really gain any appreciation for him unless you watch him and realize he's been doing Pat Mahomes things for the last ten years.

Are you serious? What a moronic thing to say.

I've actually watched Stafford a lot over the years for fantasy purposes. He digs holes against teams that have no business leading against the lions. Then he makes these comebacks and gets credit for being a great QB. He's not. He's good, but not a QB that will lead a team anywhere. If he was any good, he would have at least one playoff win in his career. Just one.

 

[SD Bears Fan]

Disagree. I think he leads the NFL in 4th QTR come backs.. I could be making that up. I know he has a lot of them. He's played mostly with shit defenses and no running game. He's a tough SOB too. I don't know if or what I'd pay him, 32 he has probably 4-5 years left.

Lots of comebacks he created by sucking for 3 quarters against inferior teams.

 

[Bear_Assed]

If the bears got him would he best the QB they've had since McMahon? I think he's a decent QB on a crappy team. Not sure what his contract looks like.

We’re you listening to the score around 5:30 last night when Danny Parkins was talking about this? And he even admitted there’s 0 chance in the world of this ever happening?

 

[SD Bears Fan]

Jay Cutler did too lol. that's what happens when you play for garbage incomplete teams. guys like Rodgers don't lead in 4th quarter comebacks because they never fell behind to begin with. even in the flashes where the Lions were "good" they were always kittens. it's unconscionable that the Bears lost that 2nd game to them this season. or that the 1st one came down to a pass in the endzone that got dropped.

Well said!

 

[Visionman]

The Stat Padford thing is a cute and clever nickname but it runs into one major issue: it's not true. If you want to see stat padding please refer to something more like 2020 Deshaun Watson. Stafford's statistics are pretty modest and you wont really gain any appreciation for him unless you watch him and realize he's been doing Pat Mahomes things for the last ten years.

Seriously??? Yes, Stafford will make a WOW play once in awhile. Usually followed (or preceded) by several boneheaded plays.

He’s been lucky to have a WR like CJ, and now Golladay, to bail him out so often.

 

[ChiKhan]

We’re you listening to the score around 5:30 last night when Danny Parkins was talking about this? And he even admitted there’s 0 chance in the world of this ever happening?

No I don't listen to the score to be honest.

 

[Discus fish salesman]

Seriously??? Yes, Stafford will make a WOW play once in awhile. Usually followed (or preceded) by several boneheaded plays.

He’s been lucky to have a WR like CJ, and now Golladay, to bail him out so often.

How much have golladay and Stafford played together? One or the other is always injured. Its probably been more of Marvin Jones "bailing him out" over the last couple years.

 

[Visionman]

How much have golladay and Stafford played together? One or the other is always injured. Its probably been more of Marvin Jones "bailing him out" over the last couple years.

Jones is a pretty good WR, but Stafford used Golladay a ton for those 50/50 jump balls. True, Golladay has been out a lot recently. But the point is, for most of Staffords career, he’s had a big WR to bail him out of bad decisions. Then again, throwing it up to those two is probably never a bad decision...but it certainly didn’t help him to develop into a complete QB worthy of his contracts.

 

[RiDLer80]

I'd like to see what he could do with good coaching.

Unfortunately the Bears don't have that.

 

[ThatGuyRyan]

Lots of comebacks he created by sucking for 3 quarters against inferior teams.

Is Chicago one of those inferior teams? He did it twice this year, with a lucky drop for 'us'. You can go through and cherry pick your bullshit games if you want, I give zero fucks. He's a top 15 QB in the NFL and is light years better than anything we've drafted, signed, put out on the field in the past 25 years. In fact this entire list is lol

Matthew Stafford's Career 4th quarter comebacks and game-winning drives | Pro-Football-Reference.com (pro-football-reference.com)

1	Tom Brady	39	2000-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
2	Drew Brees	36	2001-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
3	Ben Roethlisberger	35	2004-2020	pit	View Comebacks
4	Matthew Stafford	31	2009-2020	det	View Comebacks
5	Matt Ryan	30	2008-2020	atl	View Comebacks
6	Philip Rivers	29	2004-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
7	Russell Wilson	24	2012-2020	sea	View Comebacks
8	Andy Dalton	23	2011-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
9	Ryan Tannehill	22	2012-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
10	Derek Carr	21	2014-2020	rai	View Comeb

 

[SD Bears Fan]

Is Chicago one of those inferior teams? He did it twice this year, with a lucky drop for 'us'. You can go through and cherry pick your bullshit games if you want, I give zero fucks. He's a top 15 QB in the NFL and is light years better than anything we've drafted, signed, put out on the field in the past 25 years. In fact this entire list is lol

Matthew Stafford's Career 4th quarter comebacks and game-winning drives | Pro-Football-Reference.com (pro-football-reference.com)

1	Tom Brady	39	2000-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
2	Drew Brees	36	2001-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
3	Ben Roethlisberger	35	2004-2020	pit	View Comebacks
4	Matthew Stafford	31	2009-2020	det	View Comebacks
5	Matt Ryan	30	2008-2020	atl	View Comebacks
6	Philip Rivers	29	2004-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
7	Russell Wilson	24	2012-2020	sea	View Comebacks
8	Andy Dalton	23	2011-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
9	Ryan Tannehill	22	2012-2020	2TM	View Comebacks
10	Derek Carr	21	2014-2020	rai	View Comeb

Your anger is amusing. Do you have a crush on Stafford? I never said he sucks. In fact, in one of my posts I say he is a good QB. He's just not great and my point is that he gets credit for comebacks in games where he helped create the deficit with his shitty play and boneheaded mistakes. He is also a stat stuffer late in games where the pressure is off and the defense is playing prevent. I have watched him a ton for fantasy purposes over the years.

Yes, I would take him over mitch as he has talent, but he's not going to be the reason a team wins the Super Bowl.

 

[sevvy]

He would instantly become the best QB we've ever had.

I'm not sure if that's because of his talent, or because we've literally never had a good QB.

 

[Leomaz]

If the bears got him would he best the QB they've had since McMahon? I think he's a decent QB on a crappy team. Not sure what his contract looks like.

We would up have won at least 3 more games this years and maybe even a victory over the packers

 

[TheWinman]

He is #23 for active QB's in avg. yards per play for his career, #20 in passer rating for active QB's in his career and has 23 pick 6's. Don't get fooled by the yardage. NO thanks