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Any of you meditate? I've come in and out doing it as a daily habit for years. I always feel so much better about life in general when I'm doing it consistently. Just started doing it again, about 15 days straight at this moment.

Curious of any of you do it, and what types you use, habits, what you've experienced, etc.

If you don't, I'd definitely recommend giving it a try. Just some very basic breathing exercises done on a consistent basis have resulted in tangible positive benefits for me personally - patience, less anxiety, clarity, gratitude, etc.
 

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Finally getting around to jumping in here, but I will give you a small novel of info. I have practiced some form of meditation for the bulk of the last three decades and I truly believe it has bettered my life. Nothing I really get into around here, but my parents were killed in a car wreck when I was in sixth grade. Going through that at the same time as adolescence certainly gave me a whole lot of issues to work through as I was reaching adulthood. I definitely went through a very self-destructive phase where I tried to find peace through the wonderful numbness of drugs and alcohol. Living in Seattle in the early 90s and I started dating some new wave hippie chick from Eugene, Oregon who also had her own issues to work through. She preached up and down about these guided meditation classes she attended twice a week. Being raised South Side Irish Catholic...I blew it off as stupid hippie shit. She finally wore me down and I went. I know phrases like “inner-peace” seem cliché, but it is exactly what meditation brought me. I have practiced five types of meditation in my life, some far more difficult than others, but I will share those here.

Let's start where I started and that is with Guided Meditation. It is exactly as it sounds. Usually done in a yoga like studio with up to a dozen other people and your “Guide” giving you verbal instructions while using everything from lighting and sound to burning specific incense sticks to walk your through your entire meditation. Best place for a beginner to start. I attended twelve sessions before I really felt like this was something I could now do all on my own by reading up on something called Transcendental Meditation.

Transcendental Meditation is achieved by using what is called a mantra. The most popular being “Om Mani Padme Hum”, but the one I have always used is “Aham Prema” (ah-hem-pree-mah). It means “I am Divine Love” and just always resonated with me personally very well. This involves sitting or even laying flat on your back if sitting for long periods brings you discomfort, closing your eyes in a silent room and repeat your mantra 108 times (don't ask me...it's just the number that was in the book). It puts you into a very dream-like state, but I personally do not remember my dreams. However, I do have very vivid images left in my head from the meditative state. One time early on...it was a name I had never seen before. I would meet that man four months later and he would offer me what would turn out to be the best job I ever had that would get me easily through the rest of the decade. Other times there are just images that if I let run through my mind long enough...it was set my brain on a chain reaction of thoughts that would lead me to answer I did not even know I was looking for. It is really hard to put these into words, but it's an experience unlike anything else I can compare it to.

There are also a couple of much milder forms of meditation. A great one is what is called Mindfulness Meditation. This is just simply letting your mind focus solely on it's own thoughts free of any distraction around you. Shut down all your electronic devices and focus yourself on a simple task. I use this technique while washing dishes. 10-15 minutes a couple times a day can really make a difference in your entire thought process.

There is also something called Metta Meditation. It is practiced the same as Transcendental Meditation in that your are seated or laying down with closed eyes in a silent area and focus yourself on simple words like “Happiness” “Wellness” and “Peacefulness”...then take those thoughts and focus on a loved one that you wish to bring happiness, wellness and peacefulness to. The stronger the bond you have with this other person...the more effective it will be.

Finally there is the Mount Everest of meditation...what is referred to as Vipassana Meditation. It is what the Indian Yogis have practiced for centuries. The goal here is self-transformation through intense self-observation. If there are deeply in grown traits about yourself that you wish to change...this might be a path worth taking. The only time in my life I have been able to reach this level of meditation is by complete sensory deprivation. By that I do not mean the stupid tanks. I mean completely removing yourself from everything. A five day hike through Wyoming was my tank. Three days in...I had eating very minimally, not let a single toxin into my body all week, no sort of sexual release of any type in over a week and most importantly had not spoken a word or had any social contact in the last four days. Then I found me a waterfall and lost four and a half hours to myself. Really intense stuff, but definitely the advanced class of meditation.

So...yeah...I dig meditation.

(You're welcome, OP)
 

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This is awesome, thank you!

Guided seems to be the easiest for me and generally introduced me to some techniques I can use when not having someone telling me what to do (e.g. using breath as an anchor). I use an app (free) called Insight Timer and there are some great guided meditations on there. There is also a nice timer in there (as implied by the name) that lets you set different background sounds (waterfalls, streams, rainfall, forrest, etc) bells at different points (e.g. 10 mins on on a 20 min session), etc.

I've practiced a bit w/ Mindfulness, Metta (also known by its way more dumb name, loving-kindness) and Vipassana...but my knowledge is still pretty limited at this stage. Like I said, been in and out of it for years and never been consistent. I definitely notice a difference though.

I have yet to dabble w/ TM.

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Not sure if you consider this meditation, but I constantly watch ASMR videos to get into my happy place.
 

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No worries. I perked up when I first saw the thread, but it was Saturday night and I was starting to get sleepy from the beer I tried to drink and I wanted to do the thread better justice than that. Had a little down time this morning and pounced. You must have bumped it while I was typing all that out.

TM is a really good one, but it takes time, space and discipline. Those apps sound neat...never even crossed my mind to search for one, so thank you for that. I may try one out this weekend.
 

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Not sure if you consider this meditation, but I constantly watch ASMR videos to get into my happy place.

It may sound strange, but I found televised Pro Bowling very meditative. The routine sounds with the subdued announcers work amazingly well.
 

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No worries. I perked up when I first saw the thread, but it was Saturday night and I was starting to get sleepy from the beer I tried to drink and I wanted to do the thread better justice than that. Had a little down time this morning and pounced. You must have bumped it while I was typing all that out.

TM is a really good one, but it takes time, space and discipline. Those apps sound neat...never even crossed my mind to search for one, so thank you for that. I may try one out this weekend.

I was like WHOA, I bumped this and like 30 seconds later you had a giant in depth reply.

Here's the one I use: https://insighttimer.com/ . There's a premium version, but there is SOOO much content (almost too much) I really don't see any real plus to paying for it. It's amazing how much is there for free honestly.
 

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Not sure if you consider this meditation, but I constantly watch ASMR videos to get into my happy place.

Sounds interesting. I'll have to check it out. I've never watched one.
 

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No but have done yoga many times. When I was doing it consistently I felt better. Also did wonders for my golf game. Breathing, flexibility, balance.
 

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Yeah, I would tend to think of Yoga being more beneficial too and, although I've never done it, have suggested it to my kids.

These different types of meditation you guys speak of seem contradicting to the whole meditative experience. How can you truly meditate, and let go as it were, if you need repeat some mantra exactly 108 times or take verbal instructions during the process?
 

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Yeah, I would tend to think of Yoga being more beneficial too and, although I've never done it, have suggested it to my kids.

These different types of meditation you guys speak of seem contradicting to the whole meditative experience. How can you truly meditate, and let go as it were, if you need repeat some mantra exactly 108 times or take verbal instructions during the process?

You're letting go of everything non meditative.
 

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It may sound strange, but I found televised Pro Bowling very meditative. The routine sounds with the subdued announcers work amazingly well.

[video=youtube_share;g9Jl6T938zk]https://youtu.be/g9Jl6T938zk?t=2[/video]
 

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I do breathing exercises when I start feeling anxiety coming on. Meditated years ago, haven't in a while, should try again.

Really enjoyed bikram yoga, did it for about three years. It was more physical than mental for me, but helped with everything. Joint pain pretty much disappeared, I became more flexible at 35 than at any previous point in my memory.
 

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You're letting go of everything non meditative.
Also, some forms of meditation aren't even about "letting go of it all", what many people would think about as blocking out all thoughts / emotions / physical senses. Some focus on chipping away at the very thing that is occupying your mind in the first place, but from a different perspective. Almost like a casual observer. Think of it like sitting on the road and watching the cars go by (your thoughts), versus standing in the middle dodging traffic.
 

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I prefer “jack naps”, wherein one tugs until the poison is removed from the plumbing system, followed quickly with a serene peaceful nap.
 

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Also, some forms of meditation aren't even about "letting go of it all", what many people would think about as blocking out all thoughts / emotions / physical senses. Some focus on chipping away at the very thing that is occupying your mind in the first place, but from a different perspective. Almost like a casual observer. Think of it like sitting on the road and watching the cars go by (your thoughts), versus standing in the middle dodging traffic.


lol OT but that kind of reminds me of a sermon my dad wrote when he was a pastor, where a man prays to God to "give him patience"

The man's life is subsequently thrown into chaos, in which he discovers patience of which he never realized he was capable.

my takeaway, don't pray to God for patience unless you want to be trolled.
 

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Sounds interesting. I'll have to check it out. I've never watched one.

You may have already seen one if you watched the super bowl.

[video=youtube;LXmlN9BAddg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXmlN9BAddg[/video]
 

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Think of it like sitting on the road and watching the cars go by (your thoughts), versus standing in the middle dodging traffic.

Really solid analogy.

Yoga is a form a meditation as well and can be argued that it may be the most rewarding due to the physical benefits, but it is not really fair to classify any as "the best" when this should be a very personal experience.
 

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Really solid analogy.

Yoga is a form a meditation as well and can be argued that it may be the most rewarding due to the physical benefits, but it is not really fair to classify any as "the best" when this should be a very personal experience.

I never thought much about yoga until I saw it demonstrated by Sara Jean Underwood, I found that fascinating. Google it.
 

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