Mekhi Benton is better than Trey Smith

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There is no world where Becton is better than Smith right now.

Now if you think Becton has turned a corner and think he will improve and may end up getting to a point where he is equal to or better than Smith, well for the right price it might be an interesting option. Especially since Smith could very well not hit FA.
 

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Becton’s weight climbed to 400 pounds and the Jets expressed concern.

Becton also appeared to lack motivation and criticized fans on social media.
The guy was already 365lbs so it wasn't that big of a climb considering he had a severe injury that wouldn't allow him to work out much.

As for lacking motivation on a garbage team in a tough media market, I would be cautious but not surprised if he just needed a new environment. Seems like he got his head on straight and is back playing up to his talent as a former starting left tackle now playing at right guard.
 

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The guy was already 365lbs so it wasn't that big of a climb considering he had a severe injury that wouldn't allow him to work out much.

As for lacking motivation on a garbage team in a tough media market, I would be cautious but not surprised if he just needed a new environment. Seems like he got his head on straight and is back playing up to his talent as a former starting left tackle now playing at right guard.


We just did this shit at RG…..
 

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I’d prefer not to see the Bears give massive contracts for guards that aren’t even top ten.

I’d cry if Bears are paying over $40 million for two average guards.

I do think some of the love for trey smith is way overblown.

He gave up 26 pressures this year, sure 0 sacks, but 26 is about what matt pryor would give up had he played the same # of snaps.

Deer in the headlights caleb would have eaten those sacks too.

I'd still take him since he's young an on an upward trend, but its certainly still a risk.
 

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We just did this shit at RG…..
Yes.. yes... wise men truly know that history always repeats itself... except history has zero to do with what happens in sports.
 

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I think it is too early to be paying stupid money for existing NFL players. The Bears should try to load up in the draft, see how the new guys look, and then look to the trade deadline to make some moves. Throwing 50 or 60 million a year at a couple of players is smart if they are the difference between a wild card level loss and a trip to the super Bowl. But, the Bears aren't there yet. Let us see how Coach Johnsons program works and go from there.
This is a fair argument, but the point of having a QB on a rookie contract is that you are able to take a huge swing and throw that $50-60M at two players instead of on the QB.

The problem is I don't want to spend the money on a freaking overrated right guard.
 

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If you want a bargain on the OL, we should be looking at Zeitler from DET at OG.

Him and Trey Smith would transform this OL to something capable.
 

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Also, to emphasize how bad FA is for OGs this coming year, two of the top 5 OGs are soon to be ex-Bears: Jenkins and James Daniels. LOL
 

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If you want a bargain on the OL, we should be looking at Zeitler from DET at OG.

Him and Trey Smith would transform this OL to something capable.

We will see how cheap he is, detroit got a steal since people assumed he'd regresss. He's coming off the best two year stretch arguably of his long career and gave up 8 less pressures than Trey Smith.

Knowing the bears they will give him 9-10m/yr and he will get hurt while tev goes to detroit and plays at a pro bowl level while staying healthy
 

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Creed Humphrey is a Center, the least important position on the OL. Lane Johnson is an OT, much more important. It's a very valid argument especially when you consider Becton was a bust at OT for the Jets and a reclamation flyer for PHI. It screams one season wonder on a stacked OL.
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I think it is too early to be paying stupid money for existing NFL players. The Bears should try to load up in the draft, see how the new guys look, and then look to the trade deadline to make some moves. Throwing 50 or 60 million a year at a couple of players is smart if they are the difference between a wild card level loss and a trip to the super Bowl. But, the Bears aren't there yet. Let us see how Coach Johnsons program works and go from there.
Good idea

Run it back with the same group and mix in a rookies......seems to be working well for the bears
 

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I do think some of the love for trey smith is way overblown.

He gave up 26 pressures this year, sure 0 sacks, but 26 is about what matt pryor would give up had he played the same # of snaps.

Deer in the headlights caleb would have eaten those sacks too.

I'd still take him since he's young an on an upward trend, but its certainly still a risk.
When it comes to teams that have QB's like L.Jackson or P.Mahomes or any QB that just knows how to escape pressure from pass rushers then i look at the pressures more than i look at the sacks when judging the OL. We need to proceed with caution with Trey Smith and don't lose vision on the rest of free agency because Trey Smith is the talk of free agency. Poles needs to learn from his past mistakes.
 

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Trey Smith is not an All Pro and he's definitely overrated to some degree, especially considering the contract he'll get. But he's solid, young, and has much upside, He's also much much better than any other OG on the market, which is why he'll be overpaid.
I don't disagree with any of that, but also shouldn't be so unbelievable that the Chiefs may not want to pay him. He's talked about as if it's a no-brainer to pay him among the best OL in the league, at any position. Many teams may be desperate for a guy like Trey. But are the Chiefs? Trey Smith allowed more pressures per pass block snap than both Matt Pryor and Teven Jenkins... and Coleman Shelton.
 

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Lol... I am doing neither, OT is way more valuable than a center. I simply said the center works more with the guard. Lane Johnson can still be all world and not necessarily make a bad RG better than a center who actually can combo block and assist the RG more frequently
Both positions are valuable, just different. One great OT and shitty center or vice versa will both be bad.

You can roll the quarterback away from a rusher from the bad tackles side. As a quarterback, if you have giant holes in front- he’s toast! If they can hold the interior- a qb has better vision, especially a mobile qb.

I’m not sure one is more important than others, just different and you need both to be competent in order to be at your best.

Team building needs good players at most positions, not just the key positions. We had one of the more talented wr group in league last year but if you’re sacked 67 times, it doesn’t matter who you have at receiver.

Defensive line has same argument- the middle guys hav to eat up two players and space to stop the run, Washington’s defense is far better after dealing both sweat and young? How’s that possible?

There’s no secret sauce- team building is by drafting well with excellent coaches that can coach up some later draft picks and undrafted players to find some stars. Puca Nacua???
 

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LOL at arguing who's better when either would be massive upgrades.

The only question is whether they are worth the project salary.
 

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We will see how cheap he is, detroit got a steal since people assumed he'd regresss. He's coming off the best two year stretch arguably of his long career and gave up 8 less pressures than Trey Smith.

Knowing the bears they will give him 9-10m/yr and he will get hurt while tev goes to detroit and plays at a pro bowl level while staying healthy
Yes but he's 35.
 

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