Microsoft Visual Basic

[BearsMod1]

Anyone used it before or uses it?

I am using it for a class, and i am struggling with it. Any help would be appreciate it.

 

[Jntg4]

It is really easy.

Is it the new VB or the old VB?

 

[BearsMod1]

2010 basic

 

[Crystallas]

I haven't used visual basic since version 4. But all programming is the same and super easy. Define object, call object.

 

[Happy Human 1001]

I haven't used visual basic since version 4. But all programming is the same and super easy. Define object, call object.

once you understand how straightforward it is, you don't need anyone to explain it to you. It's just getting to that point that's hard

 

[Crystallas]

once you understand how straightforward it is, you don't need anyone to explain it to you. It's just getting to that point that's hard

This is true. Break it down to the basics. What is the objective? Define it by building it. Decide how you want to call the object, now compile the script, or use the proper lead-in/out(extension) to determine what way you want to run the script.


IMO, if you want to learn how to code, run a non-newb *nix environment(skip the debian/redhat/google types like Ubuntu ect), view the source, learn from the best examples. Tinker and build. If you aren't easily distracted, you'll know how to program in nearly every language within a month.

 

[Happy Human 1001]

I mostly know C++ (from a college course) and am currently working with Action Script. Learning Action Script has been a little nightmarish because superficially it resembles C, but when you get into the nitty-gritty it is very different.

After doing a little research, I discovered it is basically a derivative of Javascript, and I'm sort of learning both right now (I'm really just interested in Action Script, but there are more good Javascript resources to learn from).

 

[BearsMod1]

I mostly know C++ (from a college course) and am currently working with Action Script. Learning Action Script has been a little nightmarish because superficially it resembles C, but when you get into the nitty-gritty it is very different.

After doing a little research, I discovered it is basically a derivative of Javascript, and I'm sort of learning both right now (I'm really just interested in Action Script, but there are more good Javascript resources to learn from).

i heard if you know or get the concept of one of the programming software i.e. visual basic you get the hang of all of them like java

 

[ShiftyDevil]

i heard if you know or get the concept of one of the programming software i.e. visual basic you get the hang of all of them like java

All coding is just two things, actually knowing what you want to do, and understanding how to ask how.

Once you can do that, it's not that hard, there are limitless resources out there so that you can sufficiently teach yourself for free.

 

[Crystallas]

there are limitless resources out there so that you can sufficiently teach yourself for free.

:yep: Very true.

The bulk of the internet was/still is built on self-taught programmers. I don't mean people who throw up a ready-made software suite on a hosting plan, and call it a day, I mean the majority of the back end.

The main reason, is because many engineering degrees have an unwritten expiration date. You can get employed by a firm datamining or programming, but once that structure goes obsolete, it's easy for you as well. That's why you have to be motivated to self-learn, otherwise taking those "refresher" courses will only catch you up a little and start the cycle over again.

 

[Happy Human 1001]

i heard if you know or get the concept of one of the programming software i.e. visual basic you get the hang of all of them like java

I actually don't know anything about visual basic, if it's an object-oriented language (and I think it is) then that's pretty much true for other object-oriented languages. I'd say that some of the older languages seem pretty different to me, based on limited exposure to them. But most newer languages are object-oriented, and you pretty much use same approach to all of them.

You just have to know how to make the compiler happy with your work, so it will compile your program. That varies from language to language- using all the right syntax, and placing various bits of code correctly (some stuff has to be nested w/ other stuff, other stuff maybe can't be nested at all).

 

[Iwritecode]

The main reason, is because many engineering degrees have an unwritten expiration date. You can get employed by a firm datamining or programming, but once that structure goes obsolete, it's easy for you as well. That's why you have to be motivated to self-learn, otherwise taking those "refresher" courses will only catch you up a little and start the cycle over again.

That's not necessarily true. I'm a COBOL programmer and at my job I work on some programs that are older than me. Basically, they are using what has worked for the last 30+ years and if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

The problem they are running into is that the programmers that know the language are all nearing retirement age and it's getting more difficult to find younger ones that do. Now they have to bring in programmers that know the newer languages and teach them COBOL on the fly.

 

[cbo0485]

That's not necessarily true. I'm a COBOL programmer and at my job I work on some programs that are older than me. Basically, they are using what has worked for the last 30+ years and if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it.

The problem they are running into is that the programmers that know the language are all nearing retirement age and it's getting more difficult to find younger ones that do. Now they have to bring in programmers that know the newer languages and teach them COBOL on the fly.

I work in IT as a J2EE Application Admin in the financial industry, and that is SOOOOOO true.

And a piece of advice for when you do java. For the love of god, make your code j2ee compliant, do not rely on an IDE that wraps everything you do in the application servers classes. Because when its time to migrate, which you'll inevitably have to do within a year or two, it'll be 10x harder to complete.


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[BearsMod1]

i need to make a restaurant bill fee calculator.

i got the code for it but don't know what to do.

any one help would be appreciated THANK YOU

 

[nvanprooyen]

If you are serious about doing development work, my advice would be to get away from things that make you think procedurally and understand object oriented methodology / design patterns out of the gate. Then it is simply a matter of syntax to write good code in any language. It's not about writing code, it is about solving problems (and ultimately doing that in a well thought out, scalable and maintainable way). Sorry for the rant...

 

[BearsMod1]

If you are serious about doing development work, my advice would be to get away from things that make you think procedurally and understand object oriented methodology / design patterns out of the gate. Then it is simply a matter of syntax to write good code in any language. It's not about writing code, it is about solving problems (and ultimately doing that in a well thought out, scalable and maintainable way). Sorry for the rant...

i just need to do it for hw.

 

[nvanprooyen]

i need to make a restaurant bill fee calculator.

i got the code for it but don't know what to do.

any one help would be appreciated THANK YOU

Is this still VB? B/c I am about to go on a whole new rant objects, methods and properties and how they interrelate to help you think through this. Writing code is the easy part. Getting your head to the place conceptually necessary is the hard part. For most new devs I've seen anyways.

 

[BearsMod1]

Is this still VB? B/c I am about to go on a whole new rant objects, methods and properties and how they interrelate to help you think through this. Writing code is the easy part. Getting your head to the place conceptually necessary is the hard part. For most new devs I've seen anyways.

yep, it is vb.

 

[nvanprooyen]

So what goes into calculating a restaurant bill?

- Items making up the order
- The amount of money associated with each item
- The tax rate for your particular geography
- Enforced tip rate? Based on the number of the party?
- Coupons / deals to deduct from the total?
- Anything else?

 

[nvanprooyen]

I actually need to bounce for the night, but will come back around tomorrow. VB is one of those things I haven't touched in years, but the principles remain the same regardless of language. Although some tend to be less sophisticated than others.