Most of These QB Rumors Are All BS!

[Enasic]

No.

Pace bet his reputation on Mitch and Nagy knows where his bread is buttered.

With Jackson, Mahomes, Watson and Jimmy G getting drafted or traded all around you and you had an opportunity to get any of those guys.

Just pause to think about that for a minute.

Ryan Pace could've had any one of Mahomes, Watson, Jackson and Jimmy G.

Yet not only did he choose Mitch, but he traded up to get him. Meanwhile all of those guys he ignored have either won MVP awards, won a Super Bowl, gotten to a Super Bowl or have had at least a deep playoff run.

If Mitch doesn't work out, or if Pace doesn't made a big ass move to get somebody who does work out, Pace is ruined as a GM.

Who in their right mind would hire him again?

We all saw that JG is a glorified game manager that is carried by a dominant run game, defense, and play action game. Not to mention, shanny is one of the best in the league and makes Nagy look like a JV coach. Put JG on the bears last year and he would have been bad. Not to mention lynch gave up picks and signed him for 20+ mil a season. Pretty dumb considering he’s not close to a franchise QB.

 

[jive]

Keenum should 100% be the choice. He's had previous success, is mobile, and won't take up much cap. He'll also prob take a one year deal since he will feel like there is a good chance he could see the field as a starter again.

Not the sexy pick, but the logical and safe one.

Definitely not the sexy pick, but probably the most bang for little buck. He has produced in the NFL unlike McCarron and Sudfield. There's just too many other positions that need to be signed this year and next to sign a big name QB. Being saddled with a 15-20 mil annual cap hit will lose you flexibility in the case that Mitch actually figures it out and produces, or if you have an opportunity to draft a top QB in the 2021 draft. There will inevitably be dead cap space involved if you cut one of those QBs as well, so it won't be that easy of an out.

What we need is a UFA QB that is OK with a 1-2 year deal under $7 mil, with the proven ability to perform at an average level of an NFL QB. Keenum would fit that role.

 

[coolio]

I don't understand why chase is making almost 2x what Case is making. Case is the better QB and someone we should have brought in the first place. Case would be a good option here

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

Keenum should 100% be the choice. He's had previous success, is mobile, and won't take up much cap. He'll also prob take a one year deal since he will feel like there is a good chance he could see the field as a starter again.

Not the sexy pick, but the logical and safe one.

Not sure he comes cheaper than Chase though and that will affect all of this, not any more so than if just one team thinks he can start for them then he will go where the $$ is. But there can't be a team out there that still is confused about Keenum not being a starter right? Eh, I won't hold my breath on that even.

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

Inaccurate? You must be thinking of a different QB or game. The kid was on almost every single pass. The only questionable play he had was an INT.

These teams have had a little over a month to learn an entire offense, and this was the first time any hitting was allowed at all. No preseason.

Go watch again...

I'll give you no preseason as a legit point but I am remembering just fine. He has this weird delivery too where the ball comes out and starts on a rope and even slides up at an angle sometimes. Anyway, a lot of his completions were off the numbers and would have been better gains had they hit where they were designed to hit and that last winning pass was sad. An easy pass defense in the NFL if not an INT.

Again, fair point on no preseason. But if he was so awesome, why would you need to point out "no preseason" as a defense?

But I love how I should watch it again but not you. No, your memory is correct and mine is obviously wrong ... from your viewpoint. Lol. Never change, Vision. Be You - Nagy

 

[Visionman]

I'll give you no preseason as a legit point but I am remembering just fine. He has this weird delivery too where the ball comes out and starts on a rope and even slides up at an angle sometimes. Anyway, a lot of his completions were off the numbers and would have been better gains had they hit where they were designed to hit and that last winning pass was sad. An easy pass defense in the NFL if not an INT.

Again, fair point on no preseason. But if he was so awesome, why would you need to point out "no preseason" as a defense?

But I love how I should watch it again but not you. No, your memory is correct and mine is obviously wrong ... from your viewpoint. Lol. Never change, Vision. Be You - Nagy

You keep saying "that last winning pass". Houston won in a blowout.
???

 

[msadows]

Not sure he comes cheaper than Chase though and that will affect all of this, not any more so than if just one team thinks he can start for them then he will go where the $$ is. But there can't be a team out there that still is confused about Keenum not being a starter right? Eh, I won't hold my breath on that even.

He made 3m a year last year in Washington.

Too much talent on the open market for anyone to really be considering him as their first option or a starter. Doubt he gets any offers besides being a backup.

My guess is his contract is around the same because he'll realize, (if we do want him), that chicago is his best shot of getting on the field again.

I mean yea, he might be able to make a tad more as a backup somewhere, but IMO this is probably the best chance for him to be a backup AND have a chance to start.

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

You keep saying "that last winning pass". Houston won in a blowout.
???

Looks like the 3rd TD not the last one.

The one where the receiver had to wait for it to come.

 

[BaBaBlacksheep]

Case Keenum, Nate Sudfield, or AJ McCarron ............these guys are immobile, garbage and will not provide any competition at the Qb position. Might as keep Daniel & Bray.

Under no circumstances should D&B stay.

 

[WindyCity]

1. Dak Prescott
2. Drew Brees
3. Tom Brady
4. Teddy Bridgewater
5. Cam Newton
6. Jamies Winston
7. Derek Carr
8. Phil Rivers
9. Andy Dalton
10. Marcus Mariota
11. Case Keenum

 

[Visionman]

Looks like the 3rd TD not the last one.

The one where the receiver had to wait for it to come.

Yeah, scrambling, keeping his eyes downfield and hitting a receiver in the end zone on the run is a really poor play....lol

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[run and shoot]

Case Keenum, Nate Sudfield, or AJ McCarron ............these guys are immobile, garbage and will not provide any competition at the Qb position. Might as keep Daniel & Bray.

Under no circumstances should D&B stay.

I hear ya

Some ppl. here don't like him.....but I'd take Marcus Mariota over those others ( but I hear Mitch has the same agent)

 

[run and shoot]

Yeah, scrambling, keeping his eyes downfield and hitting a receiver in the end zone on the run is a really poor play....lol

Best of P.J. Walker from Week 1

See all the highlights from Roughnecks' quarterback P.J. Walker's exceptional Week 1 performance.

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In case ya missed it >>>> #7

 

[Visionman]

In case ya missed it >>>> #7

I did miss that...thanks.

Maybe is was the talk about a brokeback WR that threw me off...lol

 

[run and shoot]

In case ya missed it >>>> #7

I did miss that...thanks.

Maybe is was the talk about a brokeback WR that threw me off...lol

Yeah I know?. But ya gotta like his attitude. Some of our players could learn a thing or 2 about desire and maybe take it into games. But Definitely on Walker

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

Yeah, scrambling, keeping his eyes downfield and hitting a receiver in the end zone on the run is a really poor play....lol

Best of P.J. Walker from Week 1

See all the highlights from Roughnecks' quarterback P.J. Walker's exceptional Week 1 performance.

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He was great at escaping and showed great awareness. That isn't what you praised him for. You praised him for accuracy.

Inaccurate? You must be thinking of a different QB or game. The kid was on almost every single pass.

When I mentioned how receivers had to adjust to his throws a lot that game and he would have had more YAC for his guys if he hit the numbers, you said

No preseason.

When I mentioned that throw was a duck you come up with

scrambling, keeping his eyes downfield and hitting a receiver in the end zone on the run is a really poor play

which was complete straw of my point: The "kid" was not "on almost every single pass".

Like I said, I'll give you the fact he had no preseason as an excuse for NOT being "on almost every single pass".

But that is my takeaway: I do not understand how anyone could be intrigued by him yet. Too soon.

Now, I am no scout sure, but I did doubt your takeaway, and I still do.

 

[Visionman]

He was great at escaping and showed great awareness. That isn't what you praised him for. You praised him for accuracy.



When I mentioned how receivers had to adjust to his throws a lot that game and he would have had more YAC for his guys if he hit the numbers, you said



When I mentioned that throw was a duck you come up with



which was complete straw of my point: The "kid" was not "on almost every single pass".

Like I said, I'll give you the fact he had no preseason as an excuse for NOT being "on almost every single pass".

But that is my takeaway: I do not understand how anyone could be intrigued by him yet. Too soon.

Now, I am no scout sure, but I did doubt your takeaway, and I still do.

I praised him for everything in that game. Decision making, touch, scrambling ability, leadership, and yes...accuracy. Was every single pass perfect? If that's what you expect, then you have never seen a quality QB play. And you never will, either.

But by all means....continue to carry on...

 

[Outlaw Josey Cutler]

I praised him for everything in that game. Decision making, touch, scrambling ability, leadership, and yes...accuracy.

You started with accuracy and when I pointed out that he left a lot of YAC on the field with throws that were close but could have been better and also that lame duck TD, you said "no preseason" and then added scrambling and all the rest after it.

You said:

Inaccurate? You must be thinking of a different QB or game. The kid was on almost every single pass.

I disagreed, and I still do.

Was every single pass perfect? If that's what you expect, then you have never seen a quality QB play. And you never will, either.

First, strawman fallacy.

Second, what I expect?? LOL I expected nothing. I was just watching football and I saw a QB that left a lot of YAC on the field and had a couple passes behind deep targets including the TD prompting me to respond with a "meh" when you said he was so impressive.

Was every single pass perfect? If that's what you expect, then you have never seen a quality QB play. And you never will, either.

Look up definition of "spectrum" and realize that there is a range between no pass being perfect, every pass being perfect and "almost every single pass" being perfect.

Now focus here please. You were the one who said:

The kid was on almost every single pass.

I disagree and still do.

I don't get you finding him impressive and certainly not how the sum of his throws could be "on almost every pass".

If you still think he was "on [target] almost every single pass" and impressive, then I am happy you do not scout for the Bears*.

*EDIT (added later): Since you struggle posting here, my claim that you are mistaken on Walker's scouting report does not mean I think I can scout. That would be a false equivalency on my part, and I have not nor am making that claim.

But by all means....continue to carry on...

I'm not sure. Ball's in your court.

But I would think no need to carry on. I mean, you liked his throws and I thought they weren't that great - certainly not warranting expressions of praise.

If you think of another excuse like no preseason or want to add another aspect of his game hoping I would forget you originally referenced accuracy, then feel free. It is why we have CCS