Myles Garrett requests trade

[The Big Grabowski]

What are the odds that the Bears can draft the best pass rusher in the NFL with this year's #10 pick?

Why is it wiser to gamble on that unknown than to simply take the player who has already proven to be a yearly contender for DPOY?

The question is whether the cost control and the player you get at #10 gives you better long term options than a unicorn like Garrett, who is a proven blue chip commodity but comes with a big price tag.

It is a good DL draft so it makes the thought process interesting.

 

[dabears70]

He says some of the dumbest shit now

He's a CTE Boomer

Don't we all say dumb shit? I mean seriously. #CCS.

 

[dabears70]

There will certainly be a pass rusher who is great in this draft.

Bears just need to draft better.

And finally have some draft luck and be able to find those draft gems. There's a lotta work these guys put into the draft but a lot of luck as well since there's no exact science to the draft.

 

[dabears70]

What are the odds that the Bears can draft the best pass rusher in the NFL with this year's #10 pick?

Why is it wiser to gamble on that unknown than to simply take the player who has already proven to be a yearly contender for DPOY?

Well that's obviously cost in both assets to get him and the cost to our salary cap to pay him compared to the cost of drafting a guy who comes with a cheap 4 - 5 year rookie contract, and then of course the age of each of them.

I get what you're saying with getting one of the best pass rushers in the NFL, top 3 for sure.

 

[Nelly]

Of all the bad teams in the NFL last year, we've got as much or more upside than anyone else. As stated, we blew some games that we had in hand which got the coach fired. We therefore hired one of the most highly regarded first-time head coaches in recent memory who's got a track record of creating great offensive success and it's not like we're lacking talent on the offensive side of the ball (outside of the O-line but I'll get there).

Garrett could do a lot worse than us considering the Browns aren't just going to give him away. The 10th overall pick plus a 3rd rounder in this or next year's draft is a nice package for a guy who's about to be 30. They won't get a higher pick that comes nearly as close to satisfying that "chance to win a superbowl." As stated, teams more solidly in that position have first rounders in the 20's.

For us, you're obviously putting a lot of eggs in that Garrett basket but you're banking on him and Sweat being a terror for the next 2-3 years to basically set-it and forget-it on defense. We'd no longer have the first overall pick to target a top O-tackle but you then spend both seconds on the O-line and whatever else you've got left under the cap to bring in a higher-level starter, whether that's Trey Smith or not. That's still a big upgrade on the offensive line provided you don't completely whiff on those 2nd round picks.

 

[dabears70]

Potential trade offers the Bears could use to land Myles Garrett

With Myles Garrett requesting a trade, how could the Bears realistically land the Browns pass rusher in a deal?

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[Nelly]

Potential trade offers the Bears could use to land Myles Garrett

With Myles Garrett requesting a trade, how could the Bears realistically land the Browns pass rusher in a deal?

email.fansided.com

That last one is pretty absurd. If someone is willing to give that up then let them have him.

 

[DefNextYear]

Well, it’s interesting that we have a lot of people who are simultaneously wanting to “take advantage of Caleb‘s rookie contract window“ and” don’t add a player of Miles Garrett caliber because we’re not ready to win now“

Interesting point... the counter would be free agency. However, a player like Garrett does not hit free agency. And if he did, he'd cost probably over 50% more in salary/year than what he has at the moment.

 

[DefNextYear]

The question is whether the cost control and the player you get at #10 gives you better long term options than a unicorn like Garrett, who is a proven blue chip commodity but comes with a big price tag.

It is a good DL draft so it makes the thought process interesting.

I think getting a guy like Garrett now is perfect timing to create a long-term plan to schedule his yearly salary and guaranteed money to have long term flexibility to restructure. If you try to move for a guy like this when you have all the rookie contracts coming due, it's harder to handle all that at one time. I'd essentially want to get ahead of Wright/Caleb/Rome's contracts. If they pan out, all will be due huge paydays.

 

[DefNextYear]

That last one is pretty absurd. If someone is willing to give that up then let them have him.

That's where I drive the price if a division rival is trying to get him.

 

[Runruffshod75]

I find it weird when people want to make lowball offers that the other team would never accept. Why in the world would Cleveland want to give him up for just a second rounder and what would most likely be a much lower 1st, next year??

I'm 1000% certain they can find a better offer. I agree the Bears shouldn't hamstring themselves for multiple years, but grabbing the best defensive player in the NFL for this year's #10 plus one additional pick in the second or third round is a fair expectation.

No he won't fix the Bears all by himself but why in the world would that be the only move they make? They can easily still draft or sign two more guards to the team.

This team would be an instant contender with that level of an upgrade on both sides of the trenches.

You just proposed trading a first and a third. That's a lowball offer for the best DE in football

Starting talks with a second rounder that's a top 10 this year and a first-round pick in 2026, with a stipulation that if the pick falls below 15 the Bears kick up another mid round pick is not a bad starting point.

Cleveland is at square one of a multi year rebuild. It's not going to make a huge bit of difference if it's a 2026 first rounder or a 2025

Every GM with a brain is going to wait until after the draft to offer future first round capital and Cleveland knows it.

Cincinnati went through the same thing with Hendrickson last year before the draft. Oakland went through it with Khalil Mack.

The Bears can get the jump on everyone right now by offering up one of their top 10 second round picks that alot of teams don't have, then kick up and extra first and change in 2026

There is no pressing reason in the world right now for any GM to offer Cleveland a 2025 first round pick

 

[DefNextYear]

You just proposed trading a first and a third. That's a lowball offer for the best DE in football

Not really. Bears got Mack for similar and he was 26 at the time.

 

[Bort]

I find it weird when people want to make lowball offers that the other team would never accept. Why in the world would Cleveland want to give him up for just a second rounder and what would most likely be a much lower 1st, next year??

I'm 1000% certain they can find a better offer. I agree the Bears shouldn't hamstring themselves for multiple years, but grabbing the best defensive player in the NFL for this year's #10 plus one additional pick in the second or third round is a fair expectation.

No he won't fix the Bears all by himself but why in the world would that be the only move they make? They can easily still draft or sign two more guards to the team.

This team would be an instant contender with that level of an upgrade on both sides of the trenches.

Myles Garrett is a great player, but he turns 30 this year.

People never learn that trading away draft capital for aging veterans always backfires in the long run.

 

[Bears4Ever_34]

I honestly have no idea why the Browns wouldn't be doing everything in their power to get whatever they can for Garrett. They are stuck in cap hell until Watson's contract is off the books. They're not going to be a competitive team for the foreseeable future until that problem goes away, which won't be for a couple years. Garett's already 29.

Everyday he remains with the Browns is wasted trade value they'll never get back.

 

[Xplosive]

The question is whether the cost control and the player you get at #10 gives you better long term options than a unicorn like Garrett, who is a proven blue chip commodity but comes with a big price tag.

It is a good DL draft so it makes the thought process interesting.

The strength of this draft is at DT not end. The Bears have plenty of money to spend, I'd rather see them blow it on arguably the best pass rusher in the NFL over a really good right guard.

 

[msadows]

Myles Garrett is a great player, but he turns 30 this year.

People never learn that trading away draft capital for aging veterans always backfires in the long run.

Yea if this was micah parsons I'd be all over it, 26 next season and only in year 5 vs 30 and year 9 for garrett.

That way you'd have micah dominating while caleb is in his prime, vs basically hoping you catch fire the next 2-3 years.

 

[msadows]

I honestly have no idea why the Browns wouldn't be doing everything in their power to get whatever they can for Garrett. They are stuck in cap hell until Watson's contract is off the books. They're not going to be a competitive team for the foreseeable future until that problem goes away, which won't be for a couple years. Garett's already 29.

Everyday he remains with the Browns is wasted trade value they'll never get back.

Honestly if I'm the vikings I dangle JJ Mcfarthy in front of the browns and see if they would take him for Garrett.

 

[Xplosive]

You just proposed trading a first and a third. That's a lowball offer for the best DE in football

Starting talks with a second rounder that's a top 10 this year and a first-round pick in 2026, with a stipulation that if the pick falls below 15 the Bears kick up another mid round pick is not a bad starting point.

Cleveland is at square one of a multi year rebuild. It's not going to make a huge bit of difference if it's a 2026 first rounder or a 2025

Every GM with a brain is going to wait until after the draft to offer future first round capital and Cleveland knows it.

Cincinnati went through the same thing with Hendrickson last year before the draft. Oakland went through it with Khalil Mack.

The Bears can get the jump on everyone right now by offering up one of their top 10 second round picks that alot of teams don't have, then kick up and extra first and change in 2026

There is no pressing reason in the world right now for any GM to offer Cleveland a 2025 first round pick

I disagree that this years #10 plus a 3rd is a lowball offer. It's absolutely fair for a guy about to turn 30 who only wants to go to a team that has a chance to compete.

A pick next year is traditionally a year later in value compared to this year. So next year's first is equivalent to this years second. In other words they would be getting the equivalent of two second rounders instead of a guaranteed top 10 first rounder and a second.

This years 1st and a 3rd is probably the best offer they will get that will meet Garrett's standard of a competitive team.

 

[Xplosive]

Myles Garrett is a great player, but he turns 30 this year.

People never learn that trading away draft capital for aging veterans always backfires in the long run.

By that logic you never would trade for a top 5 type player. The Mack trade cost much more because he was younger just as a trade for Parsons would cost more than a 1st and 3rd not to mention the new contract demand.

This is the rare opportunity to get a guy that plays at an elite level that won't break the cap or set the team back for several years.

 

[Xplosive]

Potential trade offers the Bears could use to land Myles Garrett

With Myles Garrett requesting a trade, how could the Bears realistically land the Browns pass rusher in a deal?

email.fansided.com

Hell no to option 3, option 2 if they send something back in return like a pick swap 3rd. The first option is best and not many teams can offer better option than getting a guaranteed top 10 pick in this years draft.