ND student dies in fall

[Rdrhwke]

This is so tragic.........and so senseless. I'd love to know why the hell they had this poor kid up in that lift to begin with. Scissor lifts are not the most stable things to begin with. Add wind gusts and they're a nightmare.



http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7750787

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

The question remains on who made the decision to put him up there.

Was it his, or did some one tell him to do it, despite the conditions.

Scissor lifts are dangerous extended in even the slightest of winds.

 

[Rdrhwke]

The question remains on who made the decision to put him up there.

Was it his, or did some one tell him to do it, despite the conditions.

Scissor lifts are dangerous extended in even the slightest of winds.

Seems as though the kid was scared shitless if you read into the tweets he made. I would think at that point he would come down unless someone told him he had to stay up there.



http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...video_tower_collapsed_tweeted_twice_befo.html

 

[Shoots_he_scores]

Terrible news, kid shouldn't have been up there at all. Those gusts were strong enough to lift a small aircraft off the ground, why would you even consider putting anyone up there. That thing was basically a giant sail up there.



On a side note I can guarantee I was the only person here that saw the phrase "ND Student" and didn't think Notre Dame

 

[mill500]

I feel for the parents.



The part that I found that said the most about the whole thing was the team continued to practice for 45 minutes after the accident. Can't slow down important game prep, evidently.

 

[PatrickSharpRules]

I feel for the parents.



The part that I found that said the most about the whole thing was the team continued to practice for 45 minutes after the accident. Can't slow down important game prep, evidently.

Shitty situation, just buried my good friend who was 20 years old. These situations are a total S.N.A.F.U.



As for the team, they should just take the fucking year off. Team blows wild ****. Watching the Navy game last saturday and then Tulsa today made me more pissed off than I already have been this week. Senseless deaths have been occurring too much for my liking lately. That is very fucked up they kept practicing, shouldn't they have gone and "prayed" or something?

 

[Kerfuffle]

Tragic but also I wonder why the kid stayed up there tweeting that he was going to die and that the winds were too strong. Get out of there! And I still don't understand why the team continued practicing - obviously they didn't think he was badly injured. Senseless.

 

[JOVE23]

Tragic but also I wonder why the kid stayed up there tweeting that he was going to die and that the winds were too strong. Get out of there! And I still don't understand why the team continued practicing - obviously they didn't think he was badly injured. Senseless.

Don't quote me on this, but I think once you're up in a scissor lift you'd need a parachute to just "Get out of there!" Maybe they have a secondary set of controls in the basket to lower the thing, though.

 

[Rdrhwke]

Don't quote me on this, but I think once you're up in a scissor lift you'd need a parachute to just "Get out of there!" Maybe they have a secondary set of controls in the basket to lower the thing, though.

I've used scissors lifts in the past. You don't need a parachute. There are a set of controls in the basket so you can either raise or lower yourself. The problem is the lift itself. Very narrow wheelbase and the ones that do have outriggers really don't help that much to stabilze the thing.

 

[Chief Walking Stick]

I saw on ESPN that they had a ceremony for something that happened at ND, it was before the football game. Now I know why... that is tragic.

 

[JOVE23]

I've used scissors lifts in the past. You don't need a parachute. There are a set of controls in the basket so you can either raise or lower yourself. The problem is the lift itself. Very narrow wheelbase and the ones that do have outriggers really don't help that much to stabilze the thing.

Sounds like those observation balloons from WWI. I'd still want a parachute.

 

[R K]

His funeral was held in Lake Zurich yesterday across from the post office.



By the tweets he sent before the accident he was not too happy he was up there. It sounded as if "someone" made him go up there against his wishes.



If that's the case someone at ND is fucked.

 

[Rdrhwke]

His funeral was held in Lake Zurich yesterday across from the post office.



By the tweets he sent before the accident he was not too happy he was up there. It sounded as if "someone" made him go up there against his wishes.



If that's the case someone at ND is fucked.

It has to be more than one person at fault. The head coach informs the head of the video dept when he wants something filmed and just like any other job he hands out the jobs to his people. There were wind warnings that day so it's up to the head coach and AD to determine if it was too dangerous outside to hold practice and call it off. But if the head of the video dept fett it was too dangerous, it's up to him to tell the head coach and AD that he can't send his people up in a lift. What it is soundlng like is that the winds weren't bad when practice started but then started gusting later. At some point, this poor kid should have been brought down. Whether there was a lack of communication or not, there was still negligence.



The biggest question I have would be how much training this kid had on the thing. We were told in no uncertain terms that if the lift started swaying for any reason (wind, soft ground, uneven ground, wheels sinking into the ground causing it to tilt) to bring it down immediately.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

His funeral was held in Lake Zurich yesterday across from the post office.



By the tweets he sent before the accident he was not too happy he was up there. It sounded as if "someone" made him go up there against his wishes.



If that's the case someone at ND is fucked.

The lawyers have already gotten involved, and the SB medics arrived on the scene only to be met with the ND lawyers right after the tragic event. Gag orders have been placed, and the "I'm sorry" money will be issued. If there is a "fall guy," it will not be anyone from the athletic department.

 

[FlaHawkFan]

The lawyers have already gotten involved, and the SB medics arrived on the scene only to be met with the ND lawyers right after the tragic event. Gag orders have been placed, and the "I'm sorry" money will be issued. If there is a "fall guy," it will not be anyone from the athletic department.

Lovely. Somebody on ESPN's "Sports Reporters" show talked about this a bit yesterday and said somebody from the athletic department said they were caught completely off-guard by the high winds, or they wouldn't have had the kid go up there. Whoever was commenting called BS on that statement because winds had been high for two days -- enough so that the football team practiced indoors the day before.



Regardless, somebody in charge had to have known the extent of the injuries. That they didn't stop practice is unbelievable.

 

[BlackHawkPaul]

Lovely. Somebody on ESPN's "Sports Reporters" show talked about this a bit yesterday and said somebody from the athletic department said they were caught completely off-guard by the high winds, or they wouldn't have had the kid go up there. Whoever was commenting called BS on that statement because winds had been high for two days -- enough so that the football team practiced indoors the day before.



Regardless, somebody in charge had to have known the extent of the injuries. That they didn't stop practice is unbelievable.

Yeah, it's BS.

Tressel (Ohio State) stated a day previous of the accident about the high winds, and about the safety of his camera crews. There's audio of that floating around somewhere. These teams are always checking weather reports, so to be ignorant of that is just folly.

 

[Shoots_he_scores]

Lovely. Somebody on ESPN's "Sports Reporters" show talked about this a bit yesterday and said somebody from the athletic department said they were caught completely off-guard by the high winds, or they wouldn't have had the kid go up there. Whoever was commenting called BS on that statement because winds had been high for two days -- enough so that the football team practiced indoors the day before.



Regardless, somebody in charge had to have known the extent of the injuries. That they didn't stop practice is unbelievable.

Yea, cause hurricane force winds just sneak up. I hate when I'm walking to class and it's a beautiful day and then out of nowhere a hurricane force wind starts. You can't possibly tell me that nobody in the athletic department or football program saw the weather either on the news or checked it online. I know personally it's the first thing I do when I wake up