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Hi all,

Any help on this one would be greatly appreciated, as shopping for these is proving to be a real challenge.

I have just purchased an external 27" monitor, and now am in need of the box plus software. The pricing of external HD's varies tremendously, so I'm totally lost with respect to matching needs to products. I don't game, but rather will be using the system for movies and streamed sporting events...hence oversized monitor.

I prefer windows 7, and it must be capable of router reception. Also, would buying a refurbished from a reputable(and local)computer repair company give me any advantages over buying new?.

TY in advance for any input.
 

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Hi all,

Any help on this one would be greatly appreciated, as shopping for these is proving to be a real challenge.

I have just purchased an external 27" monitor, and now am in need of the box plus software. The pricing of external HD's varies tremendously, so I'm totally lost with respect to matching needs to products. I don't game, but rather will be using the system for movies and streamed sporting events...hence oversized monitor.

I prefer windows 7, and it must be capable of router reception. Also, would buying a refurbished from a reputable(and local)computer repair company give me any advantages over buying new?.

TY in advance for any input.

Wait, do you need a hard drive or a personal computer?

Seagate, Hitachi, and Western Digital all make good drives, as long as you use the right purpose and usage models for the right, well, um.. purpose and usage.

If I understand your post, you want something called WAS. Wireless attached storage. So any manufacturer that uses a good drive from the 3 mentioned HDD makers is a good start for reliable storage. Then you need a reliable Wifi controller on top of that(circuits and boards vary, especially for a low budget). Wireless HDD enclosures and docks are an option as well. But I wouldn't suggest a dock, unless you know you'll be buying a lot of drives and switching them up in a clean, low magnetic interference, low static environment.
 

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Samsung are good too. But I haven't seen too many HDD samsung drives that are anywhere near as good at being shock resistant, as the big3. Now, SSD, that's a whole different topic.
 

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Samsung are good too. But I haven't seen too many HDD samsung drives that are anywhere near as good at being shock resistant, as the big3. Now, SSD, that's a whole different topic.

Yeah i havent built a pc since 2010. Saw a good deal on a 1tb HDD and had great reviews on Newegg back then so I pulled the trigger.
 

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Wait, do you need a hard drive or a personal computer?

Seagate, Hitachi, and Western Digital all make good drives, as long as you use the right purpose and usage models for the right, well, um.. purpose and usage.

If I understand your post, you want something called WAS. Wireless attached storage. So any manufacturer that uses a good drive from the 3 mentioned HDD makers is a good start for reliable storage. Then you need a reliable Wifi controller on top of that(circuits and boards vary, especially for a low budget). Wireless HDD enclosures and docks are an option as well. But I wouldn't suggest a dock, unless you know you'll be buying a lot of drives and switching them up in a clean, low magnetic interference, low static environment.

This is worse than shopping for cookware...:lol:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/campaigns/deals.asp?campaignid=3009&srkey=seagate

I need one to function as a home personal computer, off a router, that will accept a monitor and keyboard. Or, I could run a direct USB cable to modem if absolutely necessary. I'm only avoiding that b/c it would have to be a very long cable.

Where should I start on that site?...I'm lost

And TY again!
 

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Well, first language is important.

You want a computer, minus the peripherals. A computer is made up of different components, and the hard drive is one of them. So is the CPU. There was a time when people would point to the desktop, call that a CPU, a modem, a hard drive incorrectly. Or people like to confuse storage and memory, which is also a big issue today. But that was confusing for a number of reasons, and thanks to sneaky ads that would purposely try to confuse consumers who didn't understand the difference. I think you never self-corrected, making this even harder than it needs to be. But no worries. Aside from what might become a long post.... it's not that complicated. Trust me, read this through, slowly if you need to. It's well worth it.

Okay, so you have 5 basic components that are required for a standard personal computer(sometimes a few of these are combined, but nevertheless they still exist).

-A mainboard or motherboard(let's not get into the differences between the two), 50% of motherboards are synonymous with mainboards with small differences. So you see these two thrown around a bit. Like automobile engines and motors, different things, but in many cases they are synonymous. It's the circuit board, very self-explanatory.

-A processor. This is the CPU or APU(a CPU with major added features). This, like everything else, is connected to the board. It's separate from the board, because the processors come in all types of specifications and generations.

-Memory. This is what the *processor* needs to load data in and out as it is computing and complying with the software you want to run. RAM is memory(Random Access Memory).

-Storage Drive. This is what the *user* needs to store data how they see fit, including the operating system. A Hard Drive is a storage device.

-Power supply. A separate circuit designed to send a clean electrical signal to components in the system. It basically converts the power from your wall/battery, to meet the standards and the power drain requirements of multiple devices in the system itself. Different components require different power draws and the Power supply(or PSU) simplifies all of this, because the components on a board and the devices would take up much more space and cost far more to produce if it was all built in. And power creates heat, which would be another issue. Thus the box inside a box design has been the industry standard for nearly as long as electricity has been used.


There are more components of course. But these are the 5 basic ones every software driven personal computer will have, including mobile devices like smartphones(although they have a different method for a power supply but it still has one, and use another set and style of memory for storage).


From that point, you shop for your needs. You decide what features you need, and the minimum amount of performance you want. Build(either personally DIY, or simply as a consumer looking at specifications on prebuilt solutions) from there. It's almost 2015, so at least understand these 5 components. Understand the basic nomenclatures. It will only make communication easier, as well as shopping easier. Otherwise someone is liable to read your OP, and tell you to buy something that you wouldn't be able to use whatsoever without another big investment.
 

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Well, first language is important.

You want a computer, minus the peripherals. A computer is made up of different components, and the hard drive is one of them. So is the CPU. There was a time when people would point to the desktop, call that a CPU, a modem, a hard drive incorrectly. Or people like to confuse storage and memory, which is also a big issue today. But that was confusing for a number of reasons, and thanks to sneaky ads that would purposely try to confuse consumers who didn't understand the difference. I think you never self-corrected, making this even harder than it needs to be. But no worries. Aside from what might become a long post.... it's not that complicated. Trust me, read this through, slowly if you need to. It's well worth it.

Okay, so you have 5 basic components that are required for a standard personal computer(sometimes a few of these are combined, but nevertheless they still exist).

-A mainboard or motherboard(let's not get into the differences between the two), 50% of motherboards are synonymous with mainboards with small differences. So you see these two thrown around a bit. Like automobile engines and motors, different things, but in many cases they are synonymous. It's the circuit board, very self-explanatory.

-A processor. This is the CPU or APU(a CPU with major added features). This, like everything else, is connected to the board. It's separate from the board, because the processors come in all types of specifications and generations.

-Memory. This is what the *processor* needs to load data in and out as it is computing and complying with the software you want to run. RAM is memory(Random Access Memory).

-Storage Drive. This is what the *user* needs to store data how they see fit, including the operating system. A Hard Drive is a storage device.

-Power supply. A separate circuit designed to send a clean electrical signal to components in the system. It basically converts the power from your wall/battery, to meet the standards and the power drain requirements of multiple devices in the system itself. Different components require different power draws and the Power supply(or PSU) simplifies all of this, because the components on a board and the devices would take up much more space and cost far more to produce if it was all built in. And power creates heat, which would be another issue. Thus the box inside a box design has been the industry standard for nearly as long as electricity has been used.


There are more components of course. But these are the 5 basic ones every software driven personal computer will have, including mobile devices like smartphones(although they have a different method for a power supply but it still has one, and use another set and style of memory for storage).


From that point, you shop for your needs. You decide what features you need, and the minimum amount of performance you want. Build(either personally DIY, or simply as a consumer looking at specifications on prebuilt solutions) from there. It's almost 2015, so at least understand these 5 components. Understand the basic nomenclatures. It will only make communication easier, as well as shopping easier. Otherwise someone is liable to read your OP, and tell you to buy something that you wouldn't be able to use whatsoever without another big investment.

What I need is a whole new computer to run off an existing router, minus the monitor.

No wonder I became so confused, as they seemingly interchange terminology around every corner.

IE, what some call a laptop is actually a Notebook PC. I would have bought a notebook PC(which is what I currently use), only none come with over-sized monitors. Wish I could buy one of those minus the monitor, that's exactly what I need.
 

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What I need is a whole new computer to run off an existing router, minus the monitor.

No wonder I became so confused, as they seemingly interchange terminology around every corner.

IE, what some call a laptop is actually a Notebook PC. I would have bought a notebook PC(which is what I currently use), only none come with over-sized monitors. Wish I could buy one of those minus the monitor, that's exactly what I need.

A desktop computer then?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220801&ignorebbr=1

I mean a laptop/notebook will always come with a screen but if you don't want to use it and would prefer to use it via a monitor you already have you can shut it and connect it to your external monitor..... I have a laptop connected to 2 external monitors right now at work and I never use the laptop screen unless I am home.

EDIT: And I just picked a random 2014 Holiday deal off the Newegg website there for one that didn't come with a monitor to show you an example.... you can browse for yourself and find one at a price/performance you prefer.
 

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A notebook computer, is a portable computer that is meant to be used on a desk surface. A laptop was the evolution of the notebook that was designed to suit a person's lap, as well as a surface. Many systems that people call laptops are actually notebooks, as you'll notice when they are burning your legs or the board is warping. The reason being, it is cheaper and smaller sometimes to design hardware to use for the purposes as a desktop replacement, than a laptop.

The perks of being old enough, and alert in the era when all of this unfolded, is being some kind of historian on the matter. Now, people just interchange the two terms, and nobody cares. However, it DOES matter if you want to use your computer on uneven surfaces without the enclosure and board warping on the inside. This is also why some people buy a notebook, then wonder why it broke after a year. They never knew that a difference existed. More consumer marketing that screwed up very simple to understand terms.

But that's okay. Some people still call USB drives, zip drives. When zip drives are VERY different. :facepalm:
 

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A notebook computer, is a portable computer that is meant to be used on a desk surface. A laptop was the evolution of the notebook that was designed to suit a person's lap, as well as a surface. Many systems that people call laptops are actually notebooks, as you'll notice when they are burning your legs or the board is warping. The reason being, it is cheaper and smaller sometimes to design hardware to use for the purposes as a desktop replacement, than a laptop.

The perks of being old enough, and alert in the era when all of this unfolded, is being some kind of historian on the matter. Now, people just interchange the two terms, and nobody cares. However, it DOES matter if you want to use your computer on uneven surfaces without the enclosure and board warping on the inside. This is also why some people buy a notebook, then wonder why it broke after a year. They never knew that a difference existed. More consumer marketing that screwed up very simple to understand terms.

But that's okay. Some people still call USB drives, zip drives. When zip drives are VERY different. :facepalm:

That's not true.... I use my Notelapbook everywhere and I've never had one break on me.... well cept the last 2 :troll:
 

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That's not true.... I use my Notelapbook everywhere and I've never had one break on me.... well cept the last 2 :troll:

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What I need is a whole new computer to run off an existing router, minus the monitor.

No wonder I became so confused, as they seemingly interchange terminology around every corner.

IE, what some call a laptop is actually a Notebook PC. I would have bought a notebook PC(which is what I currently use), only none come with over-sized monitors. Wish I could buy one of those minus the monitor, that's exactly what I need.

What's stopping you from buying a laptop/notebook pc/portable computer/whatever you want to call it and running a line out to the monitor? That way, you've got dual screens while at home but can still travel with just the laptop?

Also, I don't know how much you're trying to spend on storage, but I think a network attached storage solution (like this one from Synology) is the best way to go. That's my next purchase.
 

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A desktop computer then?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883220801&ignorebbr=1

I mean a laptop/notebook will always come with a screen but if you don't want to use it and would prefer to use it via a monitor you already have you can shut it and connect it to your external monitor..... I have a laptop connected to 2 external monitors right now at work and I never use the laptop screen unless I am home.

EDIT: And I just picked a random 2014 Holiday deal off the Newegg website there for one that didn't come with a monitor to show you an example.... you can browse for yourself and find one at a price/performance you prefer.

Yep, desktop as per your link was where I began this shopping adventure.

I'll need that and a wifi adapter.

Only I'm not paying a grand.:lol:
 

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What's stopping you from buying a laptop/notebook pc/portable computer/whatever you want to call it and running a line out to the monitor? That way, you've got dual screens while at home but can still travel with just the laptop?

Also, I don't know how much you're trying to spend on storage, but I think a network attached storage solution (like this one from Synology) is the best way to go. That's my next purchase.

I could do that.

I can plug this one into the 27" and have dual screens. Formatting it from this dinosaur vista software properly is another matter.
 

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Yep, desktop as per your link was where I began this shopping adventure.

I'll need that and a wifi adapter.

Only I'm not paying a grand.:lol:

You can find plenty of desktops with Wifi built into their motherboards.

Should not be a big deal.

And yeah like I said I just grabbed the first example I saw with no monitor.
 

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Too bad I didn't get to the party eralier, I would have suggested the HTPC angle--especially if you're going for streaming video.

I would think for ease of use, you might just want to go for a desktop or laptop of sorts...hell, every single day on Woot.com it seams they have some computer on there.

As for additional storage, another option if your router supports it is getting a standard USB extrnal HDD and plugging it into your router (a lot of them come with a USB port for that purpose) and a cheap NAS solution.

If your box of choice doesn't come with a Wifi option, there are a couple of ways around it.
 

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