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He basically said to the ref, if one ref calls it a TD and the other doesn't shouldn't that be automatically reviewed?

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Nope.

This is why I didn't like the, every scoring play is reviewed rule. Its made it so refs refuse to review close to touchdown plays on their own... And all those need to be challenged.

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Every game I have seen since that rule, refs have called the too-close-to-tell plays a TD and then sorted it out in the booth.

But not in this case. That goal line series was totally fucked. On all three runs there was indisputable footage of the ball crossing the plane with Bush still off the ground.

I've never seen anything like that before. I think even the pass to Bennett was a TD. Fucking 4 TDs in a row. I would love to see a gif of just those 4 plays.
 

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They just need to review every play in the endzone regardless of what is called on the field. If it is a possible score it should be an auto booth review and if close a ref review, period.
 

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Every game I have seen since that rule, refs have called the too-close-to-tell plays a TD and then sorted it out in the booth.

But not in this case. That goal line series was totally fucked. On all three runs there was indisputable footage of the ball crossing the plane with Bush still off the ground.

I've never seen anything like that before. I think even the pass to Bennett was a TD. Fucking 4 TDs in a row. I would love to see a gif of just those 4 plays.

Martellus dropped that ball on his way to the ground.
 

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Speaking solely as a guy who wears the stripes on the weekends, and not a Bears fan in this instance, I think that goal line series was handled correctly by the refs. My guess is they said no touchdown on first down, because it was first down. It's kind of a cop out, but I don't think you can reasonably say the ball was across the goal line before the knee hit. There was just no evidence of it on the replay. If it were any other team than the Bears, my guess is that everybody would agree.

As for the pass on second down, meh - I'd like to see a replay of that again. Third down run, same as first down. In the end, they got the ball in the end zone which is all that matters and in the end the clock was running on first, second, and fourth down. I'll take that any day of the week.
 

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Martellus dropped that ball on his way to the ground.


I thought maybe I saw it squirt out, but it did look like he got both feet in and I thought the first signal was that he was out. But there was no fucking replay so I only got the one look at it.

Still, the most fucked series I've ever witnessed.
 

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Speaking solely as a guy who wears the stripes on the weekends, and not a Bears fan in this instance, I think that goal line series was handled correctly by the refs. My guess is they said no touchdown on first down, because it was first down. It's kind of a cop out, but I don't think you can reasonably say the ball was across the goal line before the knee hit. There was just no evidence of it on the replay. If it were any other team than the Bears, my guess is that everybody would agree.

As for the pass on second down, meh - I'd like to see a replay of that again. Third down run, same as first down. In the end, they got the ball in the end zone which is all that matters and in the end the clock was running on first, second, and fourth down. I'll take that any day of the week.


I have to call bullshit. You could see it clearly from the footage on all 3 runs. Was very clear. And I get one blown call. But that was too many in a row and they even blew the review.

On the review there was an angle the indisputably showed that no part of Bush's body touched the ground until he landed on his hip - at which point he was well into the endzone.
 

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I thought maybe I saw it squirt out, but it did look like he got both feet in and I thought the first signal was that he was out. But there was no fucking replay so I only got the one look at it.

Still, the most fucked series I've ever witnessed.
In ref speak, we talk about 'surviving the hit, surviving the ground' when it comes to a catch. Like you, I don't think I saw many replays of that, but from what TJ is saying it doesn't sound like MB survived the ground.*


* I may be remembering how the play went down wrongly.
 

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Every game I have seen since that rule, refs have called the too-close-to-tell plays a TD and then sorted it out in the booth.

But not in this case. That goal line series was totally fucked. On all three runs there was indisputable footage of the ball crossing the plane with Bush still off the ground.

I've never seen anything like that before. I think even the pass to Bennett was a TD. Fucking 4 TDs in a row. I would love to see a gif of just those 4 plays.
I agree, without being a homer I think they were all TDs and with the new rule why the hell did they not call the first one (which definitely was a TD)to be able go to replay.... Makes no sense since one of the refs already had it as a TD... Homefield call in a big way
 

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And then they did the SAME shit on Conte's pick and Bennett's TD. So many bad calls in that game all of which circumvented the auto review rule.
 

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Nope.

This is why I didn't like the, every scoring play is reviewed rule. Its made it so refs refuse to review close to touchdown plays on their own... And all those need to be challenged.

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That doesn't make any sense; a "close to touchdown" play is not a scoring play and therefore has nothing to do with the automatic review of scoring plays. I guess Trest's point was that since one ref said it was a td, they should have let that call stand and then review it. But apparently after discussing it they decided to rule him down outside the goal line, hence no score so no review. Granted, it was the wrong call IMO, and I think he was in. I even think Bennett may have gotten both feet down on the catch as well. We essentially had to score four times for it to count. lol

EDIT: I notice people have mentioned Marty B. dropping the ball, I did not notice that if it happened.
 

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And then they did the SAME shit on Conte's pick and Bennett's TD. So many bad calls in that game all of which circumvented the auto review rule.
You're right, I forgot that they pulled the same shit with the Bennett TD...
 

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I thought maybe I saw it squirt out, but it did look like he got both feet in and I thought the first signal was that he was out. But there was no fucking replay so I only got the one look at it.

Still, the most fucked series I've ever witnessed.

Yeah, I only saw one replay of it and it was a terrible angle. They did call it out of bounds originally, but then they never did any explanation after the look at his feet as to what the amended call was. It really was a bizarre series.
 

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Its almost worth taking the time to download the game and cut up the footage just to see how fucked it was.... Where's Supra
 

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I have to call bullshit. You could see it clearly from the footage on all 3 runs. Was very clear. And I get one blown call. But that was too many in a row and they even blew the review.

On the review there was an angle the indisputably showed that no part of Bush's body touched the ground until he landed on his hip - at which point he was well into the endzone.
Alright. Two different perspectives I guess.
 

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Yeah, I only saw one replay of it and it was a terrible angle. They did call it out of bounds originally, but then they never did any explanation after the look at his feet as to what the amended call was. It really was a bizarre series.

Closest I've ever come to believing in a ratings conspiracy.

If the bears hadn't of gotten in on that last play, I would have broke some shit.
 

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And Bush almost fumbled on 4th down.
 

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